Implications of Denying God’s Transcendence

Last week we established the testimony of Scripture that God is Transcendent. We looked at a host of passages that indisputably teach that God is transcendent. Here are only a few offered to remind us of where we covered last week;

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,

Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain

And spreads them out like a tent to live in. Isaiah 40:22

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
    neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
“As the heavens are higher than the earth,
    so are my ways higher than your ways
    and my thoughts than your thoughts. Isaiah 55:8-9

I Chronicles 29:11 Yours, Lord, is the greatness, the power, the glory, the victory, and the majesty, indeed everything that is in the heavens and on the earth; Yours is the dominion, Lord, and You exalt Yourself as head over all.

Solomon confesses that God transcends containment by the temple

II Chronicles 2:6 But who is able to build a house for Him, since the heavens and the highest heavens cannot contain Him?

I Kings 8:27 “But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold, heaven and the [a]highest heaven cannot contain You, how much less this house which I have built!

Job 11:“Can you discover the depths of God?
Can you discover the limits of the Almighty?
They are as high as [a]the heavens; what can you do?
Deeper than [b]Sheol; what can you know?

Elihu declares the Lord to be beyond reach

The Almighty—we cannot find Him;
He is exalted in power
And He will not violate justice and abundant righteousness. Job 37:23

We noted that a
biblical view of transcendence does not mean that God is unable to enter into His creation or communicate with it. God is also immanent, present within the universe that He has made (Ps. 139:7). Nevertheless, the idea of God being transcendent reminds us that the creation is not God (pantheism), nor does God depend upon the creation. Creation, instead, depends upon our transcendent Creator for its continual existence (Eph. 4:4–6).

Last week we then turned to define transcendence so as to be sure exactly what we were speaking of when we note the incommunicable attribute of God’s transcendence. Just for the sake of variety we offer again a definition of transcendence that communicates the same that we gave last week but in slightly different words.

When we speak of God’s transcendence we are saying;

“that God is other and set apart from everything else, that because he is un-created being He is in a class by himself. God is not just quantitatively greater than us, but qualitatively different in his greatness. He is sui generis – one of a kind — infinitely above or beyond us. The true God is distinct, set apart, from all that he has made as the only truly self-sufficient Being. All his creatures depend on him; he alone exists from within himself.

The God who is, is distinct, set apart, from all that is evil. His moral perfection is absolute. His character as expressed in his will forms the absolute standard of moral excellence. As transcendent God is the absolute point of reference for all that exists – for the good, the true, and the beautiful.

It is this idea of God as transcendent who is the absolute point of reference for all that exists – for the meaning and definition of the good, the true, and the beautiful that we want to hone in on this morning. God as transcendent is thus the source of all meaningful meaning.

The illustration we have used serves again here. Experienced sailors in the ancient world before the rise of technology could navigate safely if they only had the North Star. The North Star was their point of reference that could guide them in their charts and in what course to set.

God Transcendent is the North Star for all truth … for all meaning. Because God is and because God is Transcendent we as mortals can find definitional handles on the good, the true, and the beautiful.

So, we come to one implication of the denial of God’s transcendence is the loss of objective truth and meaning. Without the transcendence of God then there is no point of reference by which we can have meaningful meaning or can approach defining the good, the true, and the beautiful.

Unless we have a God that is outside of us who by that outsided-ness becomes the transcendent point of reference then we are blind people stumbling around in the pitch dark seeking to see.

As we are currently seeing and living trying to build a functional social order apart from the reality of a one and many Transcendent extra-mundane personal God who has made Himself known in time and space is like the ancient mariners trying to navigate the oceans without the North star.

If the transcendent God of the Bible is not so then the Marquis de Sade is God.

Now those outside the Christian community, who know something of the Marquis de Sade may well think I am exaggerating here. The man was a monster.

But am I exaggerating or was de Sade just an example of a man being consistent with his denial of God?

I think the answer was found yesterday when the New York Times published an article claiming there’s a “time and a place” for “cannibalism.” Now you can be sure that after the fury the erupted the NYT will try to walk it back but that is how these things are initially interjected into a societies consciousness.

We have lost God transcendent as our final point of reference for truth and meaningful meaning and so the post-Christian world begins to look a great deal like the pre-Christian world.


This leads us then to a second implication of denying God’s transcendence as a point of reference for meaning – for the good, the true, and the beautiful

If we will not have God’s transcendence, it is not the case that transcendence goes away. Transcendence is an inescapable category. If we will not have God’s transcendence we will take something created and fill it with the attribute to transcendence so as to serve as our objective point of reference for meaning.

If we will not have God as the true Transcendent then what shall we make to be our Transcendent?


Hobbes offered the Totalitarian Sovereign

Rousseau & Locked offered the General Will / Social Contract

Bentham and Mill offered the greatest pleasure to the greatest number / happiness

Nietzsche offered the Will to Power (The Ubermensch)

Sartre & Camus offered the Meaningful experience

Modernity offers “Tolerance”

If we deny or misunderstand or misconstrue that there is a source of the transcendent (i.e., God), the category does not disappear, it is merely transferred to the highest immanent authority (i.e., the state). The attempt by the state to have all come to it as Big Brother as the source of all information and to be the truth dispenser for the hoi polloi is one more obvious indication that it is striving to displace God and so be the new Transcendent so as to rule as god walking on earth. For Christians to be silent in the face of this ongoing outrage represents disobedience to the 1st Commandment: “Thou Shalt Not Have Any Gods Before Me.”

Again I say, a rebellion against or a denial of the Transcendent One as accompanied by the inability to think in terms of a Transcendent Many does not result in the disappearance of Transcendence but rather results in the Transcendentizing of some component of the created Immanent. This means that some aspect of God’s created reality (most commonly the State) ends up as God walking on the earth. The state will become the reference point for meaning. At that point we all become idolaters.

A third implication of denying God’s transcendence serving as the eternal point of reference for all meaning is the rise of a philosophy that insists that true truth is community and even person variable.

If there is no transcendent God providing a transcendent point of reference for objective meaning then the local Congregational Church intern who told me a few months ago that all truth is subjective becomes the fount of wisdom.

Of course this is post-modernism on steroids. Capital “T” truth no longer exists though little “t” truth does exist per each narratival community. The immanent is cut off from the transcendent – the subjective cut off from the objective – so that each man now does what is right in His own eyes.

A fourth implication of the denial of God’s Transcendence as providing a point of reference so as to measure the good, the true, and the beautiful is the loss of language as a tool in order to communicate. (1500 words)

If it is God’s transcendence that is the point of reference for meaningful meaning then the loss of transcendence will eventually mean an inability for men who speak the same language to communicate. If there is no transcendence to stabalize the meaning of words then all we are left with is an ever increasing vicious post-modern version of Ludwig Wittgenstein’s language games.

We will be in Lewis Carol’s Humpty Dumpty World

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

Without a transcendent God who is Master, then each man becomes transcendent Master and so the ability to use language to communicate becomes increasingly tenuous – even among those who speak the same language.

I’ve often wondered if this is what happened at Babel when the language was confused.

We are all seeing this unfold before us. Here is recent example from Tim Keller on the usage of language that leaves me perplexed as to what he could possibly mean.

“Careful obedience to God’s law often serves as a strategy for rebelling against God.”

Tim Keller


Now this is English but I have no idea whatsoever what this could possibly mean and I am sure Keller would be equally perplexed that I would have no idea what he means here. We are both using the same language but are clueless as to what the other means.

A fifth implication of the loss of a Transcendent God who is the eternal reference point for all truth is the undoing of the universe in favor for a multi-verse.

We are seeing increasingly this idea of the “multiverse.” The idea of the multiverse is that there is no component of unity whereby diversity can find meaning. We see this especially in our University system that have now become in reality multiversities. Go to the Mathematics department in many Universities and they will tell you of the Mathematical impossibility of Evolution to the point they will scorn the notion. Go to the Biology department of the same University and they may not graduate you if, if you doubt some form of Evolution.

The old idea of the University is that you had these host of disciplines that could be studied but all these disciplines could have a cohesiveness … a Uni … in the fact that all truth is God’s truth… in the fact that God as the eternal transcendent reference point the many-ness could find a unity in the University. This was because theology was the Queen of the Sciences.

However with the loss of the transcendent God who is the eternal point of reference that gives unity to the many-ness both our Universities and our Universe have increasingly become Multiverses and Multi-versities. If there is any unity that binds all together it is found in the agreement that there is no unity.

On this matter of the Universe becoming a Multiverse allow me to quote Michael Fort;

“God, as the Transcendent Creator and Sustainer of all things, is the single point through which all things are integrated, the single point through which all tensions are relieved, the single point through which all the particulars relate to one another. Without Him, harmonious dualisms like body and soul are turned into irreconcilable dichotomies.

Without transcendence unbelievers are inescapably left with a diversity that destroys unity and a unity that destroys diversity. Having a fundamentally broken view of the transcendent, universals become illusory, necessitating a multiverse in which each man possesses his own truth and his own ethics, becoming his own god. But a fundamentally broken view of the transcendent necessarily results in a fundamentally broken view of the immanent. Because limitless unrelated multiplicity inescapably leads to the death of meaning, particulars also become illusory, with the ultimate truth being the fundamental oneness of all being. In both the realm of transcendence and immanence, unbelieving thought is the death of distinctions and the triumph of equality.

In the Christian worldview, we preach one Lord, one faith, one baptism, while recognizing a multiplicity of people: male and female, parent and child, ruler and subject, black and white, slave and free, native and foreigner – yet all arose from a common pair of parents, who where themselves created by the one God. Christian Kinism is the systemization of this understanding, most specifically as it applies to sociological organization – from the micro scale of marriage to the macro scale of nations. Kinism is the death of equality and the triumph of distinctions, a unity that preserves diversity, and a diversity that preserves unity.”

A Sixth implication of the loss of God as the Transcendent point of reference is the loss of diversity in favor of a soul deadening Uniformity.

Now, if you were listening the last 5-7 minutes you should at this point being thinking … “Hey, but you just said that the fifth implication of the loss of God as the Transcendent point of reference is the undoing of the universe in favor of a multiverse.

The odd thing about the loss of transcendence is that everything becomes buggered. Not only do we lose the Universe in favor of the multiverse but we also at the same time lose genuine diversity in the name of absolute uniformity.

The multiverse we considered in the previous implication eventually leads to absolute chaos. There can be no order, no structure, no stability in a world that absolutizes diversity. As such eventually the chaos inherent in absolute diversity gives birth to its polar opposite and that is a godless uniformity.

So, the solution to the each man doing what is right in his own eyes multiverse is the top down uniformity found in everyone donning Mao suits and calling one another citoyen or comrade. God’s transcendence is exchanged for some tyrant taking up God’s transcendence but instead of the One and Many unity found in the transcendence of the God of the Bible what we get is an absolute soul deadening uniformity.

Go ahead … read the uniformity found in the Revolutions … French, Bolshevik, Maoist … resistance is futile… you will be assimilated into the borg.

Right now we are at the multiverse stage of the loss of the transcendent. As sure as I am standing here the Uniformity stage of the loss of the transcendent is coming. Take it to the bank.
Of course there is only one cure for all this decrepitude and moral anarchy and that is for the Spirit of Christ to convict men of the sin of determining to be as God determining good and evil. Men must not only be shown the absolute futility in navigating a meaningful life apart from the transcendence of God but they also must be convicted by God’s law of the absolute sin of daring to determine to rise to the most high to seize His transcendence. They must be told that God is justly wrath with their insolence … with their rebellion … with their seeking to de-God God and en-God themselves as God.

They must be warned of the wrath to come unless they repent of this usurpation of God’s transcendence and authority. They must be warned of the sure and present wrath of God’s intent to turn them over to their folly thus assuring their utter and complete destruction in space and time.

They must be told the only solution is to sue for relief from this promised temporal and eternal wrath by fleeing to the only safety that can be had – to the work of Jesus Christ who died for those who thought they could create their own transcendence.

They must be told of God’s favor to them that He has at this moment in this sermon exposed their folly so that now they might hear God’s command to all men everywhere to repent and to come under the umbrella of safety found in the finished cross work of Jesus Christ as the only place where forgiveness for their insolence and haughtiness can be found. Only an appeal to the cross of Jesus Christ can restore to them meaningful meaning that comes with the restoration of God’s transcendence so as to have once again an objective point of reference.

Can we not find not only an infuriating exasperation with the individuals who are spiraling our culture into a death swirl, but also a desperate pity for these rebels earnestly desiring that they might repent of this sin that is doing no damage to the exalted God but is instead utterly destroying them and their kinsmen?

All we can do them is point them to the character of God and the one place they can find relief from the penalty of dismissing His Transcendent and Holy character

R2K & its Strange Ideological/Theological Bedfellows

Since the blossoming of Radical Two Kingdom theology many have seen theological and ideological strains in R2K that has found them concluding that R2K owes its origins to other sources besides Reformed thought. Some of those accusations over the course of time is that R2K is cross-pollinated with Lutheranism giving a kind of hybrid result. Others have accused R2K, with reason, of being a kind of “Reformed Dispensationalism.” A third accusation is that R2K has a good deal of Anabaptist feel about it. Others have noted that R2K reflects a classical Liberal impulse. Finally, there are also some interesting quotes that show a similarity in thought between the Marxists and R2K.

This chapter is devoted to teasing out some of these strange theological/ideological currents as existing in R2K. The purpose here is not to say that R2K is Lutheran, or Dispensational or Anabaptist or Libertarian, or Marxist but rather that there are elements in R2K that suggest that whatever R2K is, it is not Reformed.

When it comes to the accusation that R2K has been cross-bred with elements of Lutheranism we start with a couple quotes distinguishing Reformed thought from Lutheran thought and then examine how R2K does bear more reflection to Lutheranism then it does to Reformational thinking.

Dr. Robert Letham offers insight into a distinction between Lutheran and Reformed thought. We offer this here in order to contend that R2K “theology” aligns more with the Lutheran thought world than the Reformed world that Letham notes.

“Perhaps most striking is the difference in emphasis on justification between Luther and Lutheranism on the hand and Reformed theology on the other. For the former, justification is central to the whole of theology. It is the doctrine by which the church stands or falls. It functions as a kind of critical methodological tool by which any aspect of theology, or theology as a whole is to be judged….However, there is hardly an instance in Reformed theology placing justification in the center. Not that Reformed theology opposed justification by faith alone, or salvation by pure grace. On the contrary, they saw salvation in its entirety as a display of the sovereign and free mercy of God. The explanation lay in the fact that, for Reformed theology, everything took place to advance the glory of God. Thus the chief purpose of theology and of the whole of life was not the rescue of humanity but the glory of God. The focus was theocentric rather than soteriological. Even in the Heidelberg Catechism (1563), where soteriological concerns are more prominent (one of its authors, Zacharias Ursinus [1533-1587] was formerly a Lutheran) the famous first question ‘What is your only comfort in life and death?’ is answered w/ reference to the action of the Trinity, beginning, ‘I am not my own but belong… to my faithful savior Jesus Christ.

Following from this was an attempt by Reformed theology to grasp the unity of creation and redemption. The whole of life was seen in the embrace of God’s revelatory purpose. With the covenant at its heart, the whole of life was to display God’s glory. Naturally, that included at its heart the restoration of sinners to fellowship w/ God. It also entailed, however the reconstitution of both civil and ecclesiastical affairs. Lutheranism, in contrast, showed less developed interest in the application of the gospel to political life and focused more narrowly on soteriology. Possibly this stemmed from Luther enjoying the patronage of his Elector, which freed him from having to safeguard the Reformation in a political sense in quite the same way as his Reformed counterparts. The net result was that while for Lutheranism justification by faith was the heart of theology, for the Reformed theologians it was subordinate to an overarching sense of the centrality of God and his covenant. Yet, for both, the underlying concern for the gratuitous nature of salvation, its objective reality extra nos, was the same.”

Robert Letham
The Work of Christ — pg. 189-190

Another way to put the differences between Lutheranism and Reformed worldviews is that for Lutheranism salvation is for man and terminates on man, individually considered while for Reformed thought salvation is for God and serves the terminating end of a renewed cosmos dripping and saturated with God’s glory. For Lutheranism the teleology is man atoned for, whereas for Reformed thought the teleology includes but doesn’t end with man atoned for. For Reformed thought the teleology is the atonement as well as all the totality of corresponding and inevitable consequences that the atonement brings upon men who have been atoned for. Atonement for individual men is not the end product of Christ’s work. Atonement is the beginning and creating point of enlisting men into the cause of cosmic renewal for the glory of God. Men are not atoned for and saved for the sake of being atoned for and saved. Men are atoned for and saved to be put on a mission to take captive every thought and take dominion over every crevice of the cosmos to make all thoughts and all crevices obedient to King Christ. In Reformed thought, classical Lutheran thought is provincial and anthropocentric and is far to horizontally circumscribed and vertically nugatory.

Straight thinking Reformed folk don’t doubt that real live honest to goodness Lutherans or R2K as Reformed Lutherans are part of God’s elect Church. We just think that their theology leaves them developmentally disabled — much like a child who has a rare disease that does not allow them to ever grow up.

Letham, says that the focus of Lutherans is soteriological while the focus of Reformed is theocentric. I think Letham is being diplomatic and kind there. In point of fact both theologies are focused on soteriology. The difference is that that Lutheranism and Radical Two Kingdom theology focuses on a soteriology that has a anthropological terminal point whereas Reformed thought focuses on a soteriology that has a theological terminal point.

Clearly, in light of what Letham writes, the Reformed church is being invaded by Lutheran theology body snatchers. Clearly, there has been some cross breeding and pollination that is giving some flavors of the Reformed church a hybrid feel about it.

Let the Reformed church be the Reformed church!

Decades prior to Letham’s insight, the Reformed giant Dr. B. B. Warfield noted the same distinction between Lutheran and Reformed thought writing;

Lutheranism, the product of a poignant sense of sin, born from the throes of a guilt-burdened soul which can not be stilled until it finds peace in God’s decree of justification, is apt to rest in this peace; while Calvinism, the product of an overwhelming vision of God, born from the reflection in the heart of man of the majesty of a God who will not give His glory to another, can not pause until it places the scheme of salvation itself in relation to a complete world-view, in which it becomes subsidiary to the glory of the Lord God Almighty. Calvinism asks with Lutheranism, indeed, that most poignant of all questions, What shall I do to be saved? and answers it as Lutheranism answers it. But the great question which presses upon it is, How shall God be glorified?

B. B. Warfield
Oiginally appeared in The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, edited by Samuel Macauley Jackson, D.D., LL.D., ii. pp. 359-364

With these two quotes from Reformed theologians the failure of R2K as a distinctly Reformed theology comes blaring through. Whatever R2K is, it most certainly is not historically Reformed. R2K, like classical Lutheranism terminates upon man’s salvation and only answers the question of “How shall God be glorified,” by insisting that God can not be glorified in common realm areas since the common realm does not exist for God’s glorification but only for the glory of Natural law. Further, R2K by wrongly interpreting Jesus claim that “My Kingdom is not of this world.” they cut off the inherent connection between that which has been the trademark of Calvinism; an understanding of personal salvation and the bringing all things underneath the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ.

The R2K fan boys, learning from their mentor Dr. Meredith Kline treat the Mosaic covenant and God’s ten words as existing only to convict of sin, following the idea of the law being a mirror to show men their sin so men might be flee to Christ for refuge from sin’s penalty. Nobody Reformed denies this usage of the law however classical Reformed theology goes on to speak of how the law also serves as a guide to life for the converted. R2K following Lutheran thought has a very low view of the third use of the law and so they are confused by the Reformed mindset laid out by Letham an Warfield above. R2K, like the Lutheranism that is has been cross-bred with changes the third use of the law to be another way to exalt the work of Christ outside of us to the negligence of the good works wrought by the Holy Spirit in us as we are in Christ. Whatever this is, it is not, historically speaking, very Protestant nor is it Reformed in the least.

When we come to the issue of the accusations against R2K that it is just another form of Anabaptist theology in evening clothes we pause to compare comments of one of the chief R2K theologians, Dr. Mike Horton with comments from one of the greatest American Anabaptist’s Roger Williams.

Throughout the Middle Ages, the national covenant that Israel made with God at Sinai was regularly invoked as an allegory for Christendom. Crusades against “the infidel” (often Muslims) were declared by popes with the promise of immediate entrance into paradise for martyrs. Kings fancied themselves as king David, leading the armies of the Lord in cleansing the Holy Land. The very idea of a Christian empire or a Christian nation was a serious confusion of these two cities. It was against this confusion of Christ’s kingdom with Israel’s theocracy that Luther and Calvin launched their retrieval of Augustine’s “two kingdoms.”

Michael Horton
A Tale of Two Kingdoms
http://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/tale-two-kingdoms

Consider now the words of Roger Williams’ (he of Anabaptist fame) to the reformed Westminster Assembly:

Since the Law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ…We Querie, where you now find one footstep, print or pattern in this doctrine of the Son of God for a national holy covenant… If you repaire to Moses… we ask, are you Moses or Christ’s followers? Or do you yet expect the coming of the Son of God to set up the Christian Israel, the holy nation, the particular congregation of Christian worshippers, in all parts of the world? (1 Pet 2. Heb 12, etc) (Querie VII)

Roger Williams
“‘Queries of Highest Consideration,’ presented to the Dissenting Brethren, and the Westminster Assembly“

1.) I have been insisting for quite some time that R2K is a return to Anabaptist thought. This symbiosis between Horton and Williams aids in demonstrating my contention.

2.) Horton is just wrong — seriously wrong — in his reading of Augustine’s Two Cities (kingdoms). It is amazing that a “scholar” like Horton could make this kind of mistake. He is also in error to say that Calvin and Luther were reviving his (Horton’s) misreading of Augustine’s Two Kingdoms. Another humongous error on his part.

Augustine’s two Kingdom certainly were not equal to Horton’s notions of the realm of grace and the realm of the world. Augustine’s two Kingdoms included the idea of a realm consisting of those who are animated by the spirit of Anti-Christ as that realm was juxtaposed with those, living cheek by jowl with Christ’s enemies, who instead were animated by the Spirit of Christ. Those were Augustine’s two cities, not some R2K novelty that one kingdom was a church realm and the other kingdom was the non-church realm where everyone (christian and non-Christian) lived in Natural law harmony.

As we consider how R2K has been cross-pollinated with Anabaptist theology we pause to consider Willem Balke’s on Calvin and The Anabaptist Radicals;

“Calvin opposed the Roman concept of “perfectio” as well as that of the Anabaptists. He contended for an ethos that bound both the Christian and the world by the same set of requirements, so that the way of the Reformation did not result in a church segregated from the world. Although Calvin also recognized a two-kingdom doctrine, his exegesis of the Sermon on the Mount revealed that he did not let this antithesis lead him to a basic dualism.”

Calvin & The Anabaptist Radicals
Willem Balke

Unlike Calvin, R2K contends for a different ethos for the Christian and the world. The Christian is to be ruled by the ethos of Scripture in the Church realm and Natural law in the common realm, while the ethos for the world in the common realm is Natural law. Unlike Calvin the R2K “Divines” give a different ethos to the world and to the Christian. Now, there might be overlap between those two different ethoi but they are different ethoi. It is also true the R2K segregates the Church from the world though it does not segregate the Christian from the world like the Anabaptists did and do. R2K, like the Anabaptists of old do not allow the Church as the Church to be concerned with what happens in the non Church realm. (For R2K that realm is called “common,” while for the Anabaptists that realm was evil. Still, regardless of what each call that realm, the Church as the Church is segregated from it considering it “the world.”)

R2K “theology” is a tweaking of a historic theology but it is a tweaking of Anabaptist theology and not a tweaking of Historic Calvinist theology. R2K’s tweaking, as that tweaking is happening in the Reformed community, is a tweaking that pulls contemporary Calvinism more towards Anabaptist categories. Consider the R2K tweak of Anabaptist theology in its nomenclature. Historically Anabaptist theology called the non-Church realm evil. R2K doesn’t do that. Instead, R2K tweaks Anabaptist nomenclature and calls the evil realm “common,” but all the while insists that it is impossible for the R2K “common” realm to be Christian, insisting on calling it “common.” Now, one might observe that if it is impossible for the “common” realm to be “Christian” (per R2k) then all that is left is for the common realm to be not Christian. If the common realm is not Christian then how is it also (using Anabaptist nomenclature) not a evil realm? The R2K acolytes reply that the common realm is neither Christian nor evil but in doing so they have given up their Reformed credentials by creating a realm where the antithesis does not apply and they have completely given up on Van Til’s denial of neutrality. The R2K lads can say till they’re blue in the face that common does not equal neutral but saying that it is not so, does not make it not so.

We turn now to find echos Marxism in Radical Two Kingdom theology.

R2K insists that there can be no such thing as a Christian state. We hear that in this quote from the main driving force of R2K theology, Dr. David Van Drunen,

We should acknowledge that our governments are to be common and serve all people, to serve the cause of justice for all, to protect all people from harm.”

https://zcrcimus.org/library/seminars/christ-and-the-state-by-rev-dr-david-vandrunen

When DVD insists that we should acknowledge that our governments are to be common he is saying that they are not to be distinctly Christian. Instead they are to serve the God of pluralism who rules by Natural law over Muslims, Jews, Christians, Humanists, and Satanist. DVD’s State as ruled by the God of pluralism, informed by Natural Law, thus distributes justice to all. However, this model fails if only because with each competing religion in the pluralistic realm of the pluralistic God-State Natural Law yields up a different conclusion on the matter of what is and what is not “justice.”

In this Van Drunen model, R2K believes that Christians who labor to “christianize the State” are involved in folly since a Christian state, per the thinking of R2K is not possible. It is a confusion of categories to strive to have a Christian state.

This idea of a State that is completely cordoned off from the influence of Christianity as public religion is not unique to the thinking of the R2K fanboy club. There have been those who have been historically prior to R2K who believed that the State should be a religion-less entity.

Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin) was one chap who likewise championed the same kind of thinking as R2K. Ulyanov offered,

“Complete separation of Church and State is what the socialist proletariat demands of the modern state and the modern church. … religion must be declared a private affair.”

“Complete Separation of Church and State and of School and Church”
Vladimir Lenin

The idea that religion (Christianity) must be a private affair is the cornerstone of R2K. This is seen in their constant insistence that there is no such thing as Christian culture, Christian family, Christian education, Christians arts, or a Christian state.

Again, see the consistency with Ulyanov (Lenin)

“We demand that religion be held a private affair so far as the state is concerned…. We demand complete disestablishment of the Church so as to be able to combat the religious fog.”

“Complete Separation of Church and State and of School and Church”
Vladimir Lenin

Lenin wasn’t finished. In a quote that could’ve been echoed by David Van Drunen, R. Scott Clark, or Mike Horton speaking of the R2K Professoriat instead of Lenin’s Revolutionary proletariat he offered,

“The revolutionary proletariat will succeed in making religion a really private affair, so far is the state is concerned.”

“Complete Separation of Church and State and of School and Church”
Vladimir Lenin

We turn now to the accusations against R2K that it shares from the classical liberalism born of the Enlightenment mindest.

The argument from the R2K mutual admiration society is that Dr. David VanDrunen has at one and the same time reached back to Reformed history to repristinate two kingdom theology while at the same time being a theological innovator who has corrected the “inconsistency”[1] of centuries of Reformed political theology with the wonderfully coincidental result that we have been bequeathed a theology falling from Van Drunen’s pen that just happens to be a mirror reflection of the Post-World War II zeitgeist of classical Liberalism’s cosmopolitanism with its anti-nationalism and multiculturalism, as combined with atomistic religious liberty and social order “secularism.” How much different is Van Drunnenian R2K theology from the anti-liberal mindset of Herman Bavinck?

Therefore Christ has also a message for home and society, for art and science. Liberalism chose to limit its power and message to the heart and the inner chamber, declaring that its kingdom was not of this world. But if the kingdom is not of, it is certainly in this world, and is intended for it. The word of God, which comes to us in Christ, is a word of liberation and restoration for the whole man, for his understanding of his will, for his body and his soul.”

Herman Bavinck
Cited in Dutch Neocalvinism and the Roots For Transformation
G
iven this definition of Liberalism by Bavinck we are in the right when we insist that R2K is classical Liberalism as R2K limits the power and message of Christ to the heart and the inner chamber while insisting that God’s Kingdom is not of this world. It’s interesting that in the heart of White Hat Reformed Christianity we are fighting Liberalism again. Only this time it is of the R2K Escondido Liberalism variety.

Finally, for this chapter we turn to the accusation against R2K that is should be called “Reformed Dispensationalism” since it shares common ground with Dispensationalism. We start with a quote from Radical Two Kingdom “theologian” Dr. R. Scott Clark;

Read on its own terms, the teaching of the New Testament about the Kingdom of God is remarkably silent about the pressing social concerns of the day.”

R. Scott Clark 
Escondido R2K Theologian

Here the dispensational tendency of R2K is seen. Scott wants to consider the Kingdom of God as only in its New Testament reality. But all Reformed scholars realize that the Kingdom of God in the New Testament was a concept that had long been anticipated from the Old Testament. The Kingdom of God in the New Testament is fulfillment of the Old Testament anticipations. As such we have to go to the Old Testament to view what was expected of this Kingdom of God and there in the OT we find a promised coming Kingdom that is replete with social order concerns. So concerned with the social order is the Kingdom of God that we are even told that the lion will lay down with the lamb.

In Isaiah 65 we read of this present and future Kingdom,

17 “ For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth;
And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind.
18 But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create;
For behold, I create Jerusalem as a rejoicing,
And her people a joy.
19 I will rejoice in Jerusalem,
And joy in My people;
The voice of weeping shall no longer be heard in her,
Nor the voice of crying.
20 “ No more shall an infant from there live but a few days,
Nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days;
For the child shall die one hundred years old,
But the sinner being one hundred years old shall be accursed.
21 They shall build houses and inhabit them;
They shall plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
22 They shall not build and another inhabit;
They shall not plant and another eat;
For as the days of a tree, so shall be the days of My people,
And My elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labor in vain,
Nor bring forth children for trouble;
For they shall be the descendants of the blessed of the LORD,
And their offspring with them.
24 “ It shall come to pass
That before they call, I will answer;
And while they are still speaking, I will hear.
25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together,
The lion shall eat straw like the ox,
And dust shall be the serpent’s food.
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,”
Says the LORD.

This passage has been surrounded by a great deal of debate as to when we can anticipate such blessedness. Pre-millennialist insists that this description comes to pass in the Kingdom of God that Christ establishes once He returns. A-millennialists insist that this description comes to pass in the eschaton. Post-millenialist insist that all that Isaiah speaks of has been inaugurated by and in Christ, and so will come progressively in Christ as His Kingdom, (His new creation of heaven and earth) like the Mustard seed, increasingly reflects what it has already established in an inaugurative fashion, with the consummation being the fulfillment of what has been inaugurated and all that is becoming true progressively regarding this present and future Kingdom of God. Clearly the Old Testament teaches that the Kingdom of God has social order impact.

In the ministry of the Lord Christ, He impacts the social order by refuting and correcting the cultural gatekeepers at every turn. Indeed, in his healing ministry the Lord Christ is demonstrating that the Kingdom of God has impact in the lives of people that they, now being clean, may return to participation in the social order. Clearly the life and ministry of Christ in the New Testament has social order impact.

When St. Paul brings the Gospel of the Kingdom (Resurrection and the Kingdom of God are the two main preaching themes in Acts) to Ephesus (Acts 19) the consequence is that the social order of Ephesus experiences a major shake up in its economic, and political social order. The Kingdom was pressing in on the wicked social order of Ephesus and it made for the threat of change in Ephesus. Earlier in Acts 17 St. Paul again brings the Gospel of the Kingdom message to Athens and again threatens to overturn the social order of Athens.  Clearly the Apostolic ministry in Acts demonstrated the Kingdom of God has social order impact.

That the New Testament doesn’t articulate again what the Old Testament taught about the impact of the Kingdom on social concerns is no reason to toss the Old Testament teaching on the Kingdom of God. Scott should know better.

When we move on from this evidence of Dispensationalism in R2K “thought” we next consider the common ground between Radical Two Kingdom theology as found in their harmonious view of how the law is only for God’s people and not to be applied to those who are not Christians. Among the Dispensationalists we can find this mindset;

Here we must enumerate again several forgotten facts which need to be held in mind in the study of Hebrews:

1. The Law (meaning the Ten Commandments, with all the ordinances…) was never given to the human race.
2. The law was given to Israel at Sinai, and to no other nation…

William Newell´s Hebrew´s commentary; Hebrews, Verse by Verse — p. 232
Commenting on Hebrews 7:18

We find the same mindset in Radical Two Kingdom theology when it teaches that;

“Biblical morality is characterized by an indicative-imperative structure. That is, all of its imperatives (moral commands) are proceeded (sic) by and grounded in indicatives (statements of fact), either explicitly or implicitly. The most important indicative that grounds the imperatives in Scripture is that the recipients of Scripture are the covenant people, that is, members of the community of the covenant of grace. (39)

Since membership in the civil kingdom is not limited to believers, the imperatives of Scripture do not bind members of that kingdom. These imperatives are not ‘directly applicable to non-Christians’” (40).

David Van Drunen
The Biblical Case For Natural Law

We see then that both Newell (Dispensationalist) and Van Drunen (Reformed Dispensationalist) both agree that God’s law (DVD’s “imperatives) is not directly applicable to non Christians. Other R2K “theologians” have expressly said that the Magistrate should only be concerned with the 2nd table of God’s law.

The problem here for both Dispies as well as R2K Dispies is first we have numerous examples from all of Scripture that God’s law was applied to all all men – believers and unbelievers.

For example, the Canaanites were wiped out because of their disobedience to God’s law. Jonah indicted the citizens of Nineveh for flouting God’s law. In the book by his name Amos indicts the surrounding nations for ignoring God’s law. In the New Testament John the Baptist calls the Edomite Herod to repentance for having his brother’s wife. Repeatedly in the Scripture we see that the dispensationalizing of God’s law is foresworn.

Second, unbelievers don’t get a pass from obeying God’s law simply because they are unbelievers. Just as God commands all men everywhere to repent so God’s law is a standard that all men are obliged to keep. Indeed Paul ask Timothy to;

understand this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, 0for the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave traders and liars and perjurers, and for anyone else who is averse to sound teaching…

The whole of Scripture, per Scripture, is God’s unremitting standard for all men regardless of their redemptive status. Scripture nowhere teaches that God allows the Christ-hater and pagan to not be responsible to God’s law as a standard for civil order righteousness.

Keep in mind dear reader the point of this chapter has not been to prove that R2K is really classical liberalism, or Anabaptist, or Lutheran, or Dispensational, or Marxist. I do not believe that R2K falls exclusively into any of these categories just as I have demonstrated that R2K does not fall into the category of being particularly Reformed. The purpose of the chapter has been to show the strange company R2K keeps in some of its more pungent beliefs. The point has been to demonstrate again that R2K is a hot mess – a bastardization of Reformed theology characterized by ubiquitous contradictions that lend to it a unstable hyphenated existence.

The Spirituality of the Church & A Warning Concerning the Gospel Getting Sunk in a Sea of Cultural Concerns

” We need to be salt and light, to witness to the power of Christ and His gospel in an unsavory, dark world in a way that does not avoid the moral issues of our time, bringing a clear prophetic witness to them, but also does not allow them to swamp the boat so that the gospel gets sunk in a sea of cultural concerns.”

Dr. Alan D. Strange
Spirituality of the Church

The Messenger — Mid-America Seminary Publication

 

This morning my wife pointed this article out to me from which the quote above is culled asking me to help her identify her unease with it.

Here we examine the basis of Jane’s first bit of unease with this article. Dr. Strange (no not the Marvel Movie Magician) is trying to create space  between what he believes would be a politicized church and a church that is completely silent on the moral issues of our time. He is seeking to split the difference between the R2K-ization of the Church and the Politicization of the Church. This is a tough Gordian knot to cut. We can appreciate this attempt. However there is a problem when Dr. Strange (Alan not Stephen) warns against “the gospel getting sunk in a sea of cultural concerns.”

I note that because it belies a misunderstanding of culture. If culture is defined as “a people’s theology externalized” (and I think this a quite good definition of culture) then of course the gospel (or if you prefer — Biblical Christianity) should be getting neck deep in the cultural concerns since cultural concerns are downstream of and immediately flowing out of theological concerns. Culture is theology one step removed from the source of theology. As such I think it is wrong headed to define the Spirituality of the Church as being unconnected from the sea of cultural concerns since the Church exists in part to help the people in the pew who are also in the culture get their theology right thus aiding both God’s people in the Church and those outside the church swimming in the culture (theology externalized), as God’s instructed people bring the light of what they are taught in the Church to bear on the culture in which they and others are living. If the Church fails at addressing a sea of cultural concerns that are explicitly and sometimes even implicitly addressed by God’s authoritative Word the Church has failed.

Honestly, Dr. Strange’s (Alan not Stephen) desire to separate the Church’s responsibility of Word and Sacrament from a people’s culture finds me hearing a call to separate the Church’s theology from the theology that is being lived out every day in the sitz-em-lieben of it’s members. I understand that Dr. Strange (Alan not Stephen) doesn’t want to hear sermons in Church on the minutia of budgetary considerations of local, state, or federal government and I agree with that but the Spirituality of the Church can never be defined so as to exclude the sea of cultural concerns of a people since that sea of cultural concerns is really just abstracted theology of some god made concrete. The Church desires the abstracted theology of Biblical Christianity to be made concrete and so incarnated in the broader culture.

Confessional Social-Orders — Their Rise & Fall

Every social order is a confessional social order. This is to say that the social order in question will adhere to and publicly confession a belief system that is the oil that lubricates the gears of the social order system in question. This is inescapably true of all social orders. All social orders are reflections of that social order’s public confession and the social order’s public confession will always be hopelessly religious.

Because the preceding is true then it is necessary to say that when a social-order changes it is because the public confession of that social order has first changed. This pushes us then to note that when we talk about “the secular West,” we are even at that point confessing one aspect of the West’s religious public confession which is that Christianity will not be allowed to be our public confession. However, by using the word “secularization” to describe that change we are really talking about both a public de-confessionalizing of Christianity in favor of a public re-confessionalizing of some other faith system that will be the lubricant for our social order existence. This is just another way of saying that all social orders are hopelessly religious and when a social order changes it does not change into a non-religious public confession social order but rather it changes to a new religious public confession social order. The fact that the word religion itself means “to bind” goes a long way in establishing all this. Religion as a social-order confession binds a people together.

The fact that in the West our social order confession has changed so that the West has been de-confessionalized away from Christianity and re-confessionalized to Holocaustianity is captured by a quote from British Textual Critic Robert Faurisson

“The six million constitute a lay religion with its own dogma, commandments, decrees, prophets, high priests and Saints: Saint Anne (Frank), Saint Simon (Wiesenthal), Saint Elie (Wiesel). It has its holy places, its rituals, and its pilgrimages. It has its temples and its relics (bars of soap, piles of shoes, etc.), its martyrs, heroes, miracles, and miraculous survivors (millions of them), its golden legend and its righteous people. Auschwitz is its Golgotha; Hitler is its Satan. It dictates its law to the nations. Its heart beats in Jerusalem, at the Yad Vashem monument … Although it is largely an avatar of the Hebraic religion, the new religion is quite recent and has exhibited meteroic growth … Paradoxically, the only religion to prosper today is the ‘Holocaust’ religion — ruling (so to speak) supreme and having those skeptics who are openly active cast out from the rest of mankind. It labels them ‘deniers’, whilst they call themselves ‘revisionists.’

Robert Faurisson
The Secular Religion of the ‘Holocaust,’ A Tainted Product of Consumer Society

With the changing of religion in the West to Holocaustianity the social-order public confession has also changed with the result even that if someone is to be a believer and practitioner in Christianity they must reinterpret that Christianity through the grid of Holocaustianity in order to operate peacefully with the new social order public confession.

One only needs to reflect a moment to realize the obvious truth of all this. There was a time in this country where violating public blasphemy laws by taking the name of Jesus Christ in vain would get one arrested. Similarly, there was a time in this country when much of the nation was shut down on Sundays in order to “honor the Sabbath to keep it Holy.” These realities were derivative of the social-order public confession that was Christianity. However, today in many European lands it is against the law to question the Holocaust. Further any noting of the faults or history of a certain tribe are sure to find one being labeled a “Anti-Semite,” and thus likely experiencing cancel culture. This all  indicates that the new social-order public confession is Holocaustianity and  that the previous social-order public confession that was Christianity is now passé.

We see thus that for any social order there must be a public confession and that social-order public confession operates along religious lines to bind the social order together. This then has the implication that all notions of social-order authority is derivative of the confession and religion from which that social-order descends.  We also see thus far that the idea that the West embraces pluralism is a myth. Ask David Irving or Ernst Zundel or Robert Faurisson if pluralism existed in the social-orders of which they were members.

Pluralism is the cover that is used to hide the de-confessionalization and re-confessionalization process. Pluralism is invoked in order to hide from the citizens of a social order that they are being placed against a new religious context that will require a new social order public confession. Invoking pluralism allows the change process to be incremental and un-noticeable until to late. Once the de-confessionalization and re-confessionalization process is completed suddenly the citizen will discover that pluralism is not to be allowed. We are seeing that today in the West with the ever increasing speech codes.

All of this underscores what the presuppositionalists have been saying for decades now and that is “there is no such thing as neutrality.” Social-orders like people with either gather with Christ or they will scatter. Social-orders like people are either for Christ or they are against Christ.  There is no neutrality.

Let me emphasize again here the nub of the matter. There is no secularization process that the West is experiencing. None in the least. What the West has experienced over the last 75 years or so has been the constant drip of social-order de-confessionalization and social-order re-confessionaliziation. Put more simply, Christianity as the public religion of the West has been replaced with the religion of Holocaustianity.

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Hat Tip — Pactum Institute / R. J. Rushdoony

Tucker Carlson & The Great Replacement Theory is True BUT it is NOT About Race

“But when it (population replacement) happens in this country, there is mandatory media enforced silence and in fact, if you notice it’s happening, it’s your fault. You’re immoral. You’re a racist, but it has nothing to do with race. It’s about change and it’s absolutely real.”

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson Show

ROFLOL

So the country was almost 90% white in 1965 and the politicians then expanded the ability of non-White people to immigrate here, thus eventually diminishing the total percentage of white people in these US in 2022 to now about 67% and yet Tucker wants us to believe “it’s not about race.”

LOL

“It has nothing to do with race. It’s about change.”

And what kind of change would that be Tucker? Could it be … RACIAL CHANGE?

 

“It’s (the problem of being replaced by third worlders) is not about race. It is about economics and social cohesion.”

Tucker Carlson
Tucker Carlson show

Are Tucker Carlson and Doug Wilson really brothers separated at birth? I mean this is the kind of Chowderhead thing that Doug Wilson would try to float.

Hey Tucker … if it is not about race then who exactly is being replaced by whom? I mean if it was not about race per your theory then you’d be just as put out if White Europeans were replacing White Americans right?

Never mind that economics and social cohesion is also clearly about race. I mean who is the social that needs to have cohesion and why would social cohesion be a problem if it were not the case that we are trying to make people of different races to be cohesive when they are intrinsically not?

LOL

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/07/20/tucker_carlson_the_great_replacement_is_an_electoral_strategy_by_democrats.html