Without Western Civilization Who Cares Who Gets Scooped Up in Spook Vans?

“Joel McDurmon recently asked what conservatives would have done if Obama had ordered the deployment of federal agents to scoop protesting citizens into vans during the night. They would have gone nuts, that’s what.”

Doug Wilson Article

I continue to be mystified by this kind of reasoning on the part of McDumbon. I’ve seen it elsewhere from other people.

The idea seems to be that if conservatives would have been upset at the thought of Obama scooping up conservative protesters therefore it is perfectly legitimate for Marxists to be upset at the thought of Trump scooping up Marxists into vans during the night.

I don’t get it… really, I don’t.

The fact that genuinely conservative Christians (and one can’t be conservative without being a Biblical and dissident Christian) would get upset about their people being illegally arrested by Obama the Marxist doesn’t require them to join the Marxists about being upset when Marxist people are being inconvenienced by being arrested by a President who is legitimately seeking to uphold the law.

This kind of thinking is a “we need to be fair to everyone and treat them all the same,” reasoning. However, it is not unfair when Marxists, anarchists, and fascists are arrested for rioting, pillaging, and burning but conservatives are not arrested for not letting, by dint of force if necessary, the Marxists, anarchists, and fascists from burning their homes and their neighborhood’s down. Similarly, it is not fairness when Black Lives Matter participants are arrested as long as those who are resisting BLM are arrested as well.

McDumbon is hinting at the idea that law, equally applied, means all protesters, regardless of political and military tactics, needs to be arrested in order to be fair and that all people, regardless of their street tactics should be outraged when anyone at all is scooped up in vans and arrested. But that is a non-sequitur. BLM is an admittedly Marxist organization. When their protesters begin to act like they’ve been consistently acting they need to be scooped up in Vans. When those protesters opposing BLM use force to stop BLM it is wicked to scoop them up in a van and arrest them.

So, that I would have gone nuts (per McDumbon) over conservative protesters being scooped up in Obama Vans and arrested does not make me a hypocrite when I start daydreaming about fleets of vans coming to scoop up and arrest the violent BLM protesters (read rioter).

However, there is yet another dynamic here to be considered. When BLM protesters (better said “rioters”) decide that Western civilization as a whole is racist and must be ripped up — root, twig, and branch — then BLM protesters shouldn’t be surprised if they are no longer treated in ways consistent with Western Civilization and its law order. If BLM is successfully rioting against racist Western Civilization then BLM shouldn’t expect to have the niceties of Miranda rights, due process, and habeas corpus be part of the response to BLM rioting. I mean, if you want to get rid of Western Civilization that means getting rid of the necessity of a judge, jury, and sentencing guidelines. It’s so much easier just taking a random rioter behind the burnt down courthouse and put a bullet in their brain pan.

I’m guessing that suddenly racist Western Civilization doesn’t look so bad to the thoughtful BLM rioter. (I know, I know, that bit about ‘thoughtful BLM rioter’ was a oxymorn.)

In Joel McDumbon’s world it makes sense to imply hypocrisy on the part of conservatives. However, in a world ungoverned by Western Civilization who gives a tinker’s damn about hypocrisy?

Author: jetbrane

I am a Pastor of a small Church in Mid-Michigan who delights in my family, my congregation and my calling. I am postmillennial in my eschatology. Paedo-Calvinist Covenantal in my Christianity Reformed in my Soteriology Presuppositional in my apologetics Familialist in my family theology Agrarian in my regional community social order belief Christianity creates culture and so Christendom in my national social order belief Mythic-Poetic / Grammatical Historical in my Hermeneutic Pre-modern, Medieval, & Feudal before Enlightenment, modernity, & postmodern Reconstructionist / Theonomic in my Worldview One part paleo-conservative / one part micro Libertarian in my politics Systematic and Biblical theology need one another but Systematics has pride of place Some of my favorite authors, Augustine, Turretin, Calvin, Tolkien, Chesterton, Nock, Tozer, Dabney, Bavinck, Wodehouse, Rushdoony, Bahnsen, Schaeffer, C. Van Til, H. Van Til, G. H. Clark, C. Dawson, H. Berman, R. Nash, C. G. Singer, R. Kipling, G. North, J. Edwards, S. Foote, F. Hayek, O. Guiness, J. Witte, M. Rothbard, Clyde Wilson, Mencken, Lasch, Postman, Gatto, T. Boston, Thomas Brooks, Terry Brooks, C. Hodge, J. Calhoun, Llyod-Jones, T. Sowell, A. McClaren, M. Muggeridge, C. F. H. Henry, F. Swarz, M. Henry, G. Marten, P. Schaff, T. S. Elliott, K. Van Hoozer, K. Gentry, etc. My passion is to write in such a way that the Lord Christ might be pleased. It is my hope that people will be challenged to reconsider what are considered the givens of the current culture. Your biggest help to me dear reader will be to often remind me that God is Sovereign and that all that is, is because it pleases him.

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