DKQ …. Dr. J. Gresham Machen vs. Dr. Alan Strange

“It is true some of them are ‘sticklers’ for the civil rights of Negroes – it always makes me intensely angry to hear people talking glibly about equal civil rights of Negroes when in many parts of the South those equal rights would mean that every legislator and every judge would be of a savage type and the white men would be more unsafe in parts of this country than in most parts of the world where at least protection of his home government is to some extent with him.”

J. Gesham Machen

“What about the whole notion that nations think themselves better than the other nations? Do you think that is not a result of sin … that ethnic groups think their superior to other ethnic groups? BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT! We’re all made in the image of God. Somebody’s not better than the other. When Paul stood on the step of the Areopagus and he said, ‘God made all nations of one blood,’ Do you think the Greeks were standing there saying, ‘yes?’ They were, like, ‘SHUT UP. We’re Greeks. We are not like those Africans.’

Did they think that? Oh, we know they thought that.”

Dr. Alan Strange
President – Mid America Seminary

You’d think a President of a Seminary could think in proper categories.

Are all peoples equal?

Yes … inasmuch as all peoples are fallen
Yes … inasmuch as all peoples are guilty before the law

Yes … inasmuch as all peoples are creatures

In brief, when considered ontologically then, yes…”a fallen man is a fallen man is a fallen man.”

But even here gradations exist.

Though all peoples are fallen not all peoples are equally depraved in their expression of total depravity.

Though all peoples are guilty before the law some peoples have violated God’s law more egregiously than others (consider the Cretans in the book of Titus in the Bible) though all will be damned.

Though all peoples are creatures, God’s common providence has not made all people the same.

Are all peoples equal?

No … if by that you mean that all peoples have the same genetic predispositions

No…. if by that you mean that all peoples have the same potentials.

No…. if by that you mean that because all people are equal, they are interchangeable cogs that are by definition non distinct.

This is just ignorance on Dr. Strange’s part and is in agreement with Classical Marxist thought.

Obviously, Dr. J. Gresham Machen and Dr. Alan Strange do not agree. In today’s NAPARC church, if Machen’s views were known Machen would be excommunicated.

DKQ – Twin Spin from Abraham Kuyper

“The fact that now for the first time the actual history of our human race gets underway is expressed in the prophecy of the Holy Spirit placed on Noah’s lips. It led him (Noah) to sketch out the lines along which the history of the world would unfold, in his full blessing for Shem, his partial blessing for Japheth, and his curse on Ham. Within the prophecy lay embedded the concise program of all of the world history; the disappointing experience with blacks, the enduring significance of Jews and Muslims as Shem’s offspring, and the great significance Japheth has currently achieved provide us to this day with the key for explaining world history…. Whoever ignores this powerful act of God’s grace (as Strange is enjoining us to do) and thereby also His common grace, distorts his view on life, ends up with a false dualism, and easily runs the risk of allowing the Christian religion to deviate from the Reformed track, that is, from the correct track.”

Abraham Kuyper
Common Grace – Vol. 1 – pg. 110

“No flower exudes a fragrance other than that of its own kind, whether it is a rose, a daisy, or a lily; and no precious stone sparkles except in accordance with the special name it bears, whether a diamond, a ruby, or a jasper. So also, no human beings live under the sun without belonging to their own country and their own people, be it Russian, Spanish, Belgian, or whatever nation you might name. It is no different with us. We too are not just human beings, but come from the province of Zeeland, Friesland, or North or South Holland. But together we are the people of the Netherlands, and as such, we are proud of our country and thank our God that the love of our native soil dwells innately in our lives. We also love the House of Orange-Nassau, and we continue to grow in our national history. No blow should destroy our national conscience more than if our existence as a people were destroyed and the Netherlands were to disappear from the ensemble of European states.”

Abrham Kuyper
Two-fold Fatherland 
On the Church – p. 286

Ask yourself, “How might it occur for the people of the Netherlands for their existence to be destroyed, resulting in the disappearance of the Netherlands from the ensemble of European states? Well, that could happen several different ways, but one of those ways would be for a New World Order mindset to seize control of the Dutch government with the end in mind of importing non Zeelanders, Frieslanders, and North and South Hollanders into the Netherlands knowing that such action would lead to breeding that would breed out the Dutch. Mass miscegenation would be one way to make the Dutch disappear.

Those who want to protect their people are considered Kinists/racists though. Consider this account from Britain,

English Nobleman, Rev. Dr. Lord Nigel Biggar, has made a defense of Punjabis in England who have become Christian who insist that their children only should marry other Punjabi Christians. He is said to have suggested that it is was hogwash to call Punjabi fathers restricting those who courted their daughters to fellow Punjabis, “kinists” and therefore vile racist sinners. He called the fathers concern for who courted their daughters a good, natural, and proper thing. For not condemning such blatant kinism; Lord Nigel Biggar is a man to be held in contempt. and viewed according to WOKE Indian (Dot not Feather) Academic Dr. Priyamvada Gopal, as “one beyond the pale.”

Note here the equation of “Kinist” with “vile racist sinners.” Also note that these Punjabi fathers are being Kinist.

And that’s a good thing.

Now, what the Punjabis are doing in Britain … well, that’s a whole different kettle of fish.

DKQ … Charles Hodge

“If the fact that the master and slave belong to different races, precludes the possibility of their living together on equal terms, the inference is, not that the one has the right to oppress the other but that they should separate. Whether this should be done by dividing the land between them, and giving rise to distinct communities, and wise conditions, is not for us to say. We have undertaken only to express an opinion as to the manner in which the Bible directs those, who look to it for guidance, to treat this difficult subject, and not to trace out a plan to provide for ulterior results. It is for this reason, we have said nothing of African colonization, though we regard it as one of the noblest enterprises of modern benevolence.”

Charles Hodge
Slavery – p. 511

“Whether the slaves of this country may be safely admitted to the enjoyments of personal liberty, is a matter of dispute, but what they cannot, consistently with the public welfare, be entrusted with, is the exercise of political power. This is on all hands admitted.”

Charles Hodge
Slavery, Essays and Reviews – p. 502

Now tell me that the NAPARC denominations, who are disciplining men for agreeing with Hodge, are not out of their ever-loving minds.

DKQ – Palmer, Washington, Hodge

“I have said to them — and to their credit be it testified, the proposition has generally been accepted as the council of wisdom – if you are to be a historic people, you must work out your own destiny upon your own foundation. You gain nothing by a parasitic clinging to the White race; and immeasurably less, by trying to jostle them out of place. If you have no power of development from within you, you lack the first quality of a historic race, and must, sooner or later, go to the wall…. Were I a Black man, I should plead for a pure Black race, as, being a White man I claim it for the White race; and should only ask the opportunity for to work out its mission…. The true policy of both races is, that they shall stand apart in their own social grade, in their own schools, in their own ecclesiastical organizations, under their own teachers and guides: but with all kindness and helpful co-operation to which the old relations between the races, and their present dependence on each other would naturally predispose.”

Rev. Benjamin Mogan Palmer 
19th century Southern Minister 
As Quoted by Morton Howison Smith
Brotherhood and Race – p. 213-214

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“In all things that are purely social we can be as separate as the fingers, yet one as the hand in all things essential to mutual progress”

Booker T. Washington 
19th Century Southern Black Leader
Atlanta Exposition Speech 

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“This is a law of our being…. Members of the same nation have a feeling for each other which they have not for foreigners. Members of the same tribe or class in a community are bound together by a still closer tie.”

Dr. Charles H. Hodge 
19th century Northern Presbyterian Minister

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Given these quotes from men of different races and different regions one has to wonder what has happened to the “conservative” “Reformed” churches of NAPARC that they should be forming Kangaroo courts in order to pursue a political purge of men in their midst whose views on race are mild compared to these quotes from giants in the Presbyterian world in a previous age.

DKQ – Jonathan Edwards

“The Law of nature and the law of divine revelation teach us to be united with those that we dwell with in the same country, to have a special affection for them, and makes us in many respects one body with them.”

Jonathan Edwards
Miscellanies, no. 928, Works Vol 20 – pg. 171

“Before I dismiss this head of the degenerating of experiences, I would mention one thing more that tends to it; and that is, persons aiming in their experience to go beyond the rule of God’s word, i.e. aiming at that which is indeed in some respect, beyond the rule. Thus, some persons have endeavored utterly to root out and abolish all-natural affection, or any special affection or respect to their near relations, under a notion that no other love ought to be allowed but spiritual love, and all that other love is to be abolished as carnal, and that it becomes Christians to love none upon the account of anything else but the image of God; and that therefore love should go out to one and another only in their proportion in which the image of God is seen in them. They might as well argue that a man ought to utterly to disallow of, and endeavor to abolish, all love or appetite to his daily food under a notion that it is a carnal appetite, and that no other appetite should be tolerated but spiritual appetites. Why should the saints strive after that, as a high attainment in holiness, which the Apostle in Romans 1:31 mentions as one instance wherein the heathen had got to the most horrid pass in wickedness, vis. being without natural affections?… The Creator of the world has put them in us, for the good of mankind, and because He saw they would be needful for them in us, for the good of mankind, and because He saw they would be needful for them, as they must be united in society in the present state, and are of great use when kept in their proper place; and to endeavor to totally root them out, would be to reproach the wisdom of the Creator. Nor is the being of these natural inclinations, if well regulated, inconsistent with any part of our duty to God, or any argument of a sinful selfishness, any more than our natural abhorrence of pain, and the natural inclination to ease that was in the man Christ Jesus Himself.

It is the duty of parents to be more concerned and to pray more for the salvation of their children, than for the children of their neighbors as it is the duty of a minister to be more concerned for the salvation of the souls of his own flock, and to pray more for them, than those that live at a great distance; and the people of our land and nation are more, in some sense, committed to our care than the people of China, and we ought to pray more for them and more concerned that the kingdom of Christ should flourish among them, than in another country, where it would be as much, and no more, for the glory of God.”

Jonathan Edwards
A Narrative of Many Surprising Conversions, – p. 292

Clearly, if Edwards is correct above about having a natural affection for those closer to us than those farther from us then it is correct for someone like Chocolate Knox to be more burdened for Black people than white people to come to know Christ. The same would work in the contrary direction.