Webbon Gives Pass To Calvin Robinson’s Anti-Protestant Christianity Lies

“Likewise Protestantism is a Jewish breakdown of the order of God. So, it’s like (for Protestants) “you can believe that, but you don’t have to believe that.” It’s the picking and choosing of bits of Christianity in order to lead people away from Christianity. Rather than having the fullness of truth (Protestants believe) you can have that bit of truth and reject that bit of truth and still be in good standing with God.”

Calvin Robinson
English Catholic Priest
Interview w/ Joel Webbon

Of course Webbon said nothing to refute this Papist bull fecal matter. I know some Reformed people who have become enamored with Robinson. Likely, it helps them to say to themselves, “See, I’m not racist. I like a black clergy member.”

So, since Joel Webbon said nothing to repudiate this garbage, allow me to say that Rome remains in violent opposition to the God of the Bible and the Christian faith. Rome is not Christian in the least given its official position and doctrines and until Rome repudiates Trent it remains as an Institution, anti-Christ. Also, how many consecutive clear anti-Christ Popes does their need to be before people realize that Rome is a whore house, just as the  Reformers noted? The latest Pope’s latest activity finds him canoodling with the Muslims, giving them religious credibility.

These words by Robinson is pure projection on his part. It is Rome who invents its own Christianity and then after the Reformers stood up and said, “What you have randomly picked and chosen as Christianity is NOT Christianity,” Rome complains we Protestants are the ones picking and choosing what we will and will not believe.

Shame on Webbon for giving Robinson a pass.

Interviewed by John Leonetti on Why Right Reason & Natural Law Doesn’t & Can’t Work

 

In terms of Natural Law theonomists recognize and acknowledge that God sends Gen’l Revleation/Natural Law. The Heavens do declare the glory of God. The disagreement isn’t over whether or not Nat’l law exists. It does. The disagreement is whether or not fallen man afflicted with the noetic effects of the fall (remember total depravity … not Utter Depravity) receives and owns what Natural Law/Gen’l Law teaches. It’s pretty clear that as the antitheses gets more and more worked out that the fallen man cannot and does not receive the teachings of Natural Law / Gen’l Revelation and that because he suppresses the truth in unrighteousness. As CVT put it (paraphrase here);

God is sending on all radio frequencies but fallen man is forever trying to change the channel so as to not hear what God is sending.

Now, it is true that fallen man does do things that are in harmony w/ Natural Law but this is only because he has not become consistent yet in his Christ hating presuppositions. He has imported Christian capital into his Christ hating worldview in order to get his Christ hating worldview off the ground and functioning. Only the increasingly criminally insane approach being consistent with their worldview that denies God and His Natural and Special Revelation. As such, all worldviews that are Christ hating will borrow capital from Christianity in some capacity. This is because fallen man has to climb up in God’s lap in order to slap him in the face.

It should seem obvious in our culture that the Natural Law paradigm of Wolfe and others is just plain non-functioning. We have men saying that natural law does not teach them that they are men. We have women saying that Natural Law does not teach them that it is wrong to murder and torture their children. We have people attending government schools dressed up as furries and using cat litter instead of bathrooms. HERE is your natural law you so covet and insist needs to be the foundational starting point for building social orders.

Indeed, Natural law ought to be seen as non-sensical given that there is a different and competing natural law for every worldview in existence. Deism had a Natural law that was different from Jacobinism that was different from Transcendentalism that was different from Darwinism, that was different from Nihilism, that was different from Romanticism, that was different from existentialism. In short there have been as many Natural Laws as there have been Christ hating worldviews, including those worldviews which have taught that there is no such thing as an “out there” and so no natural law (think existentialism, post-modernism, nihilism, etc.).

Again, the issue isn’t with the reality of Natural Law that God has established. The issue is with appealing to a Natural law as a basis in order to order society, law, and culture.

Here I am merely being CONFESSIONAL

Anyone claiming to be Reformed and bound by the Canons of Dort, yet spouting Natural law the way it is being spouted by Cody and others on this thread needs to show how this ideology squares with Canons of Dort III/IV.4:

“The Inadequacy of the Light of Nature”

To be sure, there is left in man after the fall, some light of nature, whereby he retains some notions about God,-1- about natural things, and about the difference between what is honorable and shameful, and shows some regard for virtue and outward order. But so far is he from arriving at the saving knowledge of God and true conversion through this light of nature that he does not even use it properly in natural and civil matters. Rather, whatever this light may be, man wholly pollutes it in various ways and suppresses it by his wickedness.-2- In doing so, he renders himself without excuse before God.

-1- Rom 1:19-20; 2:14-15.
-2- Rom 1:18, 20.”

DKQ …. Dr. J. Gresham Machen vs. Dr. Alan Strange

“It is true some of them are ‘sticklers’ for the civil rights of Negroes – it always makes me intensely angry to hear people talking glibly about equal civil rights of Negroes when in many parts of the South those equal rights would mean that every legislator and every judge would be of a savage type and the white men would be more unsafe in parts of this country than in most parts of the world where at least protection of his home government is to some extent with him.”

J. Gesham Machen

“What about the whole notion that nations think themselves better than the other nations? Do you think that is not a result of sin … that ethnic groups think their superior to other ethnic groups? BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT! We’re all made in the image of God. Somebody’s not better than the other. When Paul stood on the step of the Areopagus and he said, ‘God made all nations of one blood,’ Do you think the Greeks were standing there saying, ‘yes?’ They were, like, ‘SHUT UP. We’re Greeks. We are not like those Africans.’

Did they think that? Oh, we know they thought that.”

Dr. Alan Strange
President – Mid America Seminary

You’d think a President of a Seminary could think in proper categories.

Are all peoples equal?

Yes … inasmuch as all peoples are fallen
Yes … inasmuch as all peoples are guilty before the law

Yes … inasmuch as all peoples are creatures

In brief, when considered ontologically then, yes…”a fallen man is a fallen man is a fallen man.”

But even here gradations exist.

Though all peoples are fallen not all peoples are equally depraved in their expression of total depravity.

Though all peoples are guilty before the law some peoples have violated God’s law more egregiously than others (consider the Cretans in the book of Titus in the Bible) though all will be damned.

Though all peoples are creatures, God’s common providence has not made all people the same.

Are all peoples equal?

No … if by that you mean that all peoples have the same genetic predispositions

No…. if by that you mean that all peoples have the same potentials.

No…. if by that you mean that because all people are equal, they are interchangeable cogs that are by definition non distinct.

This is just ignorance on Dr. Strange’s part and is in agreement with Classical Marxist thought.

Obviously, Dr. J. Gresham Machen and Dr. Alan Strange do not agree. In today’s NAPARC church, if Machen’s views were known Machen would be excommunicated.

The Fallacy that is Natural Law

“What impelled the career of natural law was the effort to discover a common ground for all right-thinking persons beyond the dividing lines of sectarian religion. If our times have taught us one thing, it is the absolute untenability of the notion of a such a natural law accessible to people of ‘good faith,’ regardless of how flawed they might be in themselves, should by now have disabused us of this fata morgana. Stahl had already anticipated such a turn of events nearly two centuries ago. As he wrote,

‘Every philosophical system of whatever name in the final analysis rests on a foundational presupposition that is nothing more than faith, no matter what claim it may make to so-called scientific certainty. Even unbelief is a faith – one cannot reason from naked doubt. We have no immediate or homogeneous view of the highest principles of things and thus no absolute certainty; therefore, for philosophical systems a purely objective knowledge independent of all personal judgment, such as mathematics, the natural sciences, or even the positive sciences, is ruled out.’4

Modernism is not based on neutral science but on specific presuppositions enthroning autonomous reason, which, consistently applied, end up destroying life.”

From the forward to Frdereick Stahl’s “The History of Legal Philosophy”

A Few Quotes from Van Til’s “Christianity & Barthianism”

“In the language of the Bible God is the Origin of heaven and earth. There is no original power which is opposed to Him. Consequently, in His creation we cannot find any expression of a dualistic principle of origin.”

Cornelius Van Til (CVT)
Christianity & Barthianism — p. 231

R2K does not posit a dualistic principle of origin but it does posit a dualistic principle of rule, wherein the rule of Christ is dualistically split between his right-hand rule and his left-hand rule. This expression of a dualistic principle of ruling ends up turning the Christian faith into a form/matter (nature/grace) Aristotelian faith.

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“In the language of the Bible God is the Origin of heaven and earth. There is no original power which is opposed to Him. Consequently, in His creation we cannot find any expression of a dualistic principle of origin.”

CVT
Christianity & Barthianism — p. 231

R2K does not posit a dualistic principle of origin but it does posit a dualistic principle of rule, wherein the rule of Christ is dualistically split between his right-hand rule and his left-hand rule. This expression of a dualistic principle of ruling ends up turning the Christian faith into a form/matter (nature/grace) Aristotelian faith. So, while R2K teaches that God alone is the origin of heaven and earth, it negates that teaching by suggesting that God alone is not the direct ruler of heaven and earth. God has placed a demiurge called “Natural Law” between Himself and man in His ruling over man.

“All apostate philosophy is immanentistic.”

CVT
Christianity & Barthianism

All CVT means by this is that philosophy that does not begin and end with the Triune God and His revelation as its transcendent starting point only has the self to start with and because that is true it is immanentistic, which is to say man has a starting point that is not outside of himself but is only in himself. He is his own origin or beginning point of truth.

“The work of his (Barth’s) Christ does not take place directly in history. Barth’s view of Geschichte allows for no transition from wrath to grace.”

CVT

Christianity & Barthianism — p. 224

Geschichte is non-temporal saga history that is not history as we normally understand it. The reason that is does not allow for a transition from wrath to grace is because being non-temporal there is no time and space divine “now” where Tetelestai (It is Finished) is heard.
“All proper human activity is therefore activity within the Kingdom of the Christ.”

CVT
Christianity and Barthianism — p. 228

Van Til would have been waging war against R2K.

“On Barth’s view this simple picture of the Biblical view of sin and its origin by Bavinck, falls away. Barth’s view of revelation as indicating both the fact that God is wholly revealed and wholly hidden leads him to reject the direct confrontation of God and man in history at every point. Barth is particularly outspoken in his rejection of the historicity of the Genesis account of the origin of man and sin.”

CVT
Christianity & Barthianism — p. 217

“If we are to evaluate fairly Barth’s view of Christ, we must ask again where his Christ may be found. One point is plain. It is that according to Barth, Christ cannot be found to be directly identified with anything in history. Christ cannot even be directly identified with Jesus of Nazareth… Moreover, since the revelation of God cannot, according to Barth, be directly identified w/ Jesus of Nazareth, so also the Scriptures cannot be directly identified w/ revelation..”

CVT
Christianity & Barthianism — p. 213

Knowledge of self depends on knowledge of God- and vice versa-first chapter of Calvin’s Institutes. Kierkegaard and Schleiermacher made subjectivity of the individual ultimate, i.e. no objective truth outside of oneself. This obliterates scriptural and natural revelation as objective truth, as now “my truth” and “your truth” are different things depending on how we perceive and deal with the revelation. It is the complete demise of philosophy and theology and logically science, technology, engineering, etc. Of course, people are not consistent with this insane notion, else they would quickly be destroyed.