Biblical Nationalism and the Sixteenth Century States

An honest and straightforward reading of the bible makes one a nationalist–indeed an “ethno-nationalist.” Here we see that there would have been no Reformation as we understand it today if ethno-Nationalism had not been in the mix. Do not believe the lies of the modern Reformed clergy today (like Dr. Alan Strange) who want to suggest that there is something inherently evil and/or dangerous about Christian Nationalism. At least this is the conclusion of Dianne Applebaum’s “Biblical Nationalism and the Sixteenth Century States.”

“The emergence of Protestant nations in sixteenth-century Europe was driven by the sudden rediscovery of biblical nationalism, a political model that did not separate the religious from the political. Biblical nationalism was new because pre-Reformation Europeans encountered the Hebrew Bible through paraphrases and abridgments. Full-text Bibles revealed a programmatic nationalism backed by unmatched authority as the word of God to readers primed by Reformation theology to seek models in the Bible for the reform of their own societies. Sixteenth-century biblical nationalism was the unintended side effect of a Reformation intended to save souls.”

“Christians inspired by the Reformation to read or hear the Bible found a ‘developed model’ (Hastings, 1997, p. 18) of nationhood, beginning with an expansive description of a world arranged into ‘kindreds, tongues, lands, and nations’ [Tyndale [1530] Genesis 10:20 (Daniell, 1992)]. This association of nations with kin, language, and territory is part of a biblical discourse that reflects many of the desiderata identified by later scholars as characteristic of nations. The biblical world is imagined as composed of rightfully sovereign and equal nations. God Put the borders of the nations (Tyndale, Deuteronomy 32:8), and generally played an active role in human history, allotting territories to specific peoples.”

“But [John] Foxe would have had in mind the establishment of Protestant states in the Swiss cantons and Germanies, Sweden (1531), Denmark (1536), and Scotland (1560). Protestantism in each of these states was driven by specific factors along a unique path. What they shared was a new conviction that the model of the Godly life, for whole societies as for individuals, must be sought and would be found in the unmediated text of the Bible. Some lands experienced the Reformation primarily as a top-down royal programme, some as popular revolutions, others as a reform movement harnessed by magnates. What the several sixteenth-century ‘New Israels’ had in common was the power of the biblical narrative of nationhood to generate mass political participation because the Bible not only provided both a lexicon and a discourse of nationhood, it provided those ideas with unmatched authority as the word of God.”

 Diana Muir Applebaum
“Biblical Nationalism and the Sixteenth Century States”

Andy Sandlin’s Cryptic WOKEism

“The great divisions among humanity are never racial (Asian, Black, Hispanic, White), sexual (man, woman), economic (rich, poor) geographic (urban, rural), intellectual (educated, uneducated), or national (West, East), but ethical (covenant-keeper, covenant-breaker).

The great strategy of rebellious man is to posit the division anywhere but the ethical.”

P. Andrew Sandlin
Legend in his own mind

The fact that the great division, religiously speaking, is between covenant breakers and covenant keepers in no way diminishes other distinctions as Andy’s post implies. The fact that these very really distinctions are turned into divisions is indeed the consequence of sin as sin introduces a conflict of interest motif vis-a-vis a harmony of interest motif that one finds in the Christian faith. However, this does not mean that the distinctions turn into irrelevant realities upon conversion. Upon conversion men remain men and women remain women. Upon conversion the different races remain the different races and the different socio-economic classes remain the different socio-economic classes. One doesn’t get extra IQ points simply because one converts and so distinctions remain between the education and uneducated.

Because this is all true we would have to say that the great strategy of the stupid and rebellious man is to try and make these distinctions go away by blaming those who take these realities seriously as being rebellious. Most Kinists believe that one day the whole world, or at least much of the world will be converted. However, even in that happy day men and women will be distinct, the races will be distinct, geographic origins will still matter, IQ differences won’t disappear and national differences will remain. And all that is true when the ethical anti-thesis goes into abeyance because all men gladly bow to Christ as Lord of Lords.

Kinists understand these distinctions exist. Kinists understand that religiously speaking the great division is ethical. However, Kinists do not go all Gnostic by suggesting that grace destroys nature.

In the end what Sandlin is ultimately denying is the theological meaning intrinsic to Creation, not to mention missing that Scripture regularly sets forth principles and laws as predicated upon Creational realities. This is something these never to be wise men do with alarming frequency. They can’t understand the distinction between creation and redemption.

The Church Fathers & Their Racial Malice and Racial Vainglory… Paging Doug

Doug Wilson has invoked (perhaps even invented) new sins of “racial malice” and “racial vainglory.” Rev. Wilson insists that we Kinists are guilty of these sins. In all actuality what we are really guilty of is the “sin of noticing.”

So, in order to blunt this childish accusation by Wilson I will be posting quotes from Church Fathers that would have to be considered, in “Wilson World” as being guilty of “racial malice,” and/or “racial vainglory.”

Our first contestant is early Church Father Gregory of Nazianzus’

“Do you also say, ‘See, here is water, what does hinder me to be baptized?’ Seize the opportunity; rejoice greatly in the blessing; and having spoken be baptized; and having been baptized be saved; and though you be an Ethiopian body, be made white in soul.”

Gregory of Nazianzus
Oration 40, paragraph XXVI
(Gregory also says that baptism transforms the soul in a way different than our physicality and does not destroy or flatten our physical natures)

Notice above that Gregory clearly makes a statement of malice regarding the Ethiopians body.

So, Doug, if you’re out there… is this racial malice and was Gregory sinning here?

Dr. Strange and the Multicult of Madness — Part III

Dr. Alan Strange of Mid America Seminary keeps podcasting on the evils of Christian Nationalism and we here keep responding to his “R. Scott Clark with a Southern accent” routine.

1.) Strange denies that the Scripture gives detail as to what Biblical government looks like. He is fine with saying there are principles that Scripture gives  on government but there are not specific details. Here we have to carefully dissect. It is true that Scripture does not teach that only Monarchy is acceptable as a form of Government or Republicanism, etc. However, Scripture is clear that whether Monarchy or Republicanism all Magistrates must bow the knee to Jesus Christ. Now, bowing the knee to Jesus Christ means that Magistrates seek to implement a law-order that consistently reflects the law-order limned out in Scripture. That is a law order that has the Ten Commandments as the foundation with the general equity of the civil law as the case law. This would exist in all forms of government despite the structural and procedural differences found in varying governments. This much would be required for every Christian who would hold the position of Magistrate, regardless of the form of government within which they are operating.

We should be clear here that Dr. Alan Strange would certainly oppose what is proffered above. The disagreement here is regarding the abiding validity of the general equity of God’s civil law. Christians support that. Egghead Amillennial professors don’t support that.

2.) Strange appeals to the Jerusalem council in Acts 15 to prove that Christians shouldn’t be seeking to “Israelitize” the world. Strange’s implication here is, “just so Christians shouldn’t seek to Christianize” the world. Strange, presumably, comes to this conclusion by reasoning that just as the Jerusalem council did not require the Gentiles to become cultural Jews (Israelites) before they became Christians so nations today do not need to become culturally Christian before they become Christian. The Gentiles did not need to accept Israelite law.

The problem here with this reasoning (and it is a HUGE problem) is that the issues in the Jerusalem council were issues that dealt with the ceremonial law, and not the civil law. The Jerusalem council decided that the Gentile nations did not have to embrace the ceremonial law of the OT before they could become Christian. Of course, the weakness in Strange’s analogy/argument here is that no one on our side of the fence is looking for the nations to take up God’s ceremonial law which has been fulfilled in Jesus Christ. What the  anti-rabid Amillennialists who oppose Strange’s strange thinking desire is for all nations to bow the knee to Christ and His moral law and the general equity of the civil law which is based on God’s moral law. Strange, like all rabid Amillennialists does not want that. Strange desires that Nations be able to make up God’s law as they go. Strange does not want a hard standard, preferring instead generic principles as opposed to a “blueprint.”

3.) Strange marches out the old canard that because Christ said “My kingdom is not of this world (John 18:36)” that therefore we should not expect Christian nations. Strange takes Jesus’ phrase “My kingdom is not of the world,” to mean “My kingdom is not in this world.” This is a misinterpretation of mammoth proportions.

John 18:36 does not teach that the Lord Christ abdicated His authority in the public square. What is being taught in this phrase was captured by the Scholar B. F. Wescott,

B. F. Wescott speaking of John 18:36 could comment,

“Yet He did claim a sovereignty, a sovereignty of which the spring and the source was not of earth but of heaven. My Kingdom is not of this world (means it) does not derive its origin or its support from earthly sources.”

The Gospel According To John — pg. 260

Dr. Greg Bahnsen echoing Wescott’s work wrote,

“‘My kingdom is not of [ek: out from] this world,’” is a statement about the source — not the nature — of His reign, as the epexegetical ending of the verse makes obvious: ‘My kingdom is not from here [enteuthen].’ The teaching is not that Christ’s kingdom is wholly otherworldly, but rather that it originates with God Himself (not any power or authority found in creation.)”

Dr. Greg Bahnsen
God & Politics — pg. 27

The appeal to the Jerusalem council to disprove Christian Nationalism in no way follows.

3.) Strange seems to think that Christian Nationalism works to the end of prioritizing the impact of Christianity upon nations and cultures above the impact of Christianity upon individuals. Strange seems to think the values of Christian Nationalism contradict the values of the kingdom of God and His Christ. This is a curious critique. It is curious because it seems to presuppose that kingdom of God values for individuals cannot (or maybe should not) fit, hand in glove, with kingdom of God values for nations.  Strange’s concern, as such, is that Christians will concentrate more on building Christian nations vs. concentrating on heralding Christ for individuals. However, there is a unnatural division here. Christianity is not only a faith that converts it is a faith that sanctifies. Strange seems to want to see individual conversion but doesn’t think so much of a sanctification that yields to peoples bowing their knee to Jesus Christ in every area of life.

4.) Keep in mind that if we should not be aiming at Christian nations, per Strange, neither should be aim at rearing Christian families, because if we raise Christian families we are sure to eventually get Christian nations. I mean, emphasizing the necessity to raise Christian families may well lead to a wrong prioritizing of our kingdom values so that we no longer are evangelizing individuals.

5.) Strange says the central value of Christianity is that individuals, churches, and families should be walking with Christ. But if nations are merely families magnified (and that is the etymological definition of “nation”) why should Christian Nationalism be excised from this dynamic? Why individuals, churches, and families, but not nations?

6.) Strange insists that the central message of Christianity is to herald Christ to individuals and complains that Stephen Wolfe’s with his Christian Nationalism is teaching to the contrary that the central message of Christianity is to subdue the nations of the world for Christ even if the individuals of those nations aren’t saved. Here we wonder if we are in false dichotomy-ville? Isn’t this a case of “both/and” and not “either/or?” Christianity has the answer not only to the question, “How shall I be saved” but it also has the answer to the question, “How shall we then live.” To play the answers to these two questions off against one another as if one is prioritized above the other is not wise.

Honestly, on this point, it strikes me that Dr. Strange, like so many Amillennialists are just frightened out of their minds by the idea that Christianity might someday be in the ascendancy in forming governments, social-orders and cultures.

7.) Strange is appalled by the idea that Christians might want to see the Christianization of the world. This is Strange’s rabid Amillennialism talking. The Amillennialist teaches that the world — and the nations thereof — will not be Christianized before the return of Jesus Christ therefore they resist anything that aims at the organized promotion wherein the nations of the world are Christianized. The pessimistic eschatology of Amillennialism drives their opposition to Christian nationalism.

8.) Strange also brings up his horror that Christians might actually use the sword to force the anti-Christ pagans to bow the knee. I would guess that this is driven by the Pietism that often walks hand in hand with Amillennialism. I do not see a problem with bringing the sword to bear to press a Christian social order upon Christ haters just as Augustine promoted in the Donatist controversy, just as Charlemagne did among the Franks, just as the Crusader states did among the Muslims, just as Cromwell did among the Catholics. Indeed, I have concluded that many Christians would rather themselves be ruled by the sword of pagans then rule by the sword in the name of Christ over Christ haters. The logic seems to be it is more pleasing to Jesus for His name to be set aside by the Christ hater than it is pleasing to Jesus to rule over the Christ hater consistent with His gracious law-Word.

9.) Dr. Alan Strange insists that the Christian message is “spiritual” implying that Wolfe’s nationalism is “carnal.” In Pietistic speak “spiritual” means non-corporeal and abstract. Strange equates “spiritual” as only preaching the Gospel as the means to transform a nation. Honestly, this seems to deny the Reformed idea that the magistrate bears the sword. If a magistrate is Christian and if he bears the sword consistent with God’s gracious Law-Word then why shouldn’t he force people to conform to God’s gracious Law-Word even if they don’t internally believe it? Further, if wicked magistrates become tyrants (as they currently are) then why shouldn’t God’s people not resist as our forefathers resisted wicked magistrates when they had as a motto “No King, but King Jesus?” Why shouldn’t satanic magistrates be pulled down by Christians by force if satanic magistrates are seeking to overthrow Jesus Christ to be replaced by Christian magistrates who will enforce God’s gracious Law-Word upon the people?

10.) Strange argues that Christians should pursue, as Kingdom value, being conquered. He exalts weakness, suffering and losing. Now, I have no problem with teaching that the Christian will suffer and know weakness and will lose, however those realities arise in the context of seeking to conquer for the crown rights of Jesus Christ. Strange makes it very clear his Pietistic Amillennial Christianity has no interest in manfully conquering. In the end these massively contrasting eschatologies (Rabid Amillennialism vs. garden variety Postmillennialism) end up yielding up a very different type of Christianity.

11.) If Strange glories in being “last” in terms of kingdom values, if he desires to be weak, if he desires to suffer he will revel in this rebuttal.

12.) Strange insists that Dr. Stephen Wolfe’s vision of Christian nationalism will lead to the marginalization of the Church. Further, Strange insists that Wolfe Christian nationalism vision is toxic and dangerous. Let us return the compliment and insist that Strange’s vision of the impact (or lack of impact) of Christianity on nations will lead the Church back to the Roman Amphitheatre with Christians being dined upon by wild beasts. Strange’s vision is blasphemous and traitorous to Jesus Christ and His divine Kingship.

13.) There is irony in all this. Strange complains about the militancy of Christian nationalism and yet Strange himself desires to impose his eschatology of defeat upon all Christians. In the end the rabid Amillennialist Strange is every bit as militant as the Christian Nationalist Wolfe.

14.) Strange insists that we in America do not really live in “real tyranny.” 60 million dead babies would testify to the contrary.

15.) Strange, at the end, even plays the “Wolfe says some things that sound racist” card. Strange even invokes the specter of Nietzsche and Mein Kampf. Strange clearly has been sipping at the WOKE Kool-Aide. Frankly, this horse hockey probably outrages me more than anything else Strange said. It is just so ridiculous and over the top.


McAtee Interrogates Wilson Interview on Kinism

In a recent interview Rev. Doug Wilson blames the rise of evil Kinism on the progressive left. Doug reasons that “If the progressive left had not vilified White people for a generation white people would not have over-reacted by embracing Kinism (paraphrase).”

While Doug could be correct here Doug’s problem is Doug does not mention who comprises the progressive left. Who is it precisely who has comprised the progressive left to the end of vilifying white people?

 Doug won’t go here because the answer to that question is “the school of Cultural Marxism has been the animating force behind the progressive left,” that Dougie blames for the rise of evil evil Kinism. Now we ask, “Why won’t Doug name Cultural Marxism as the animating force for the rise of the progressive left which has in turn been met with the rise (in Dougie’s world) of evil Kinism)?”

The answer to that question is that it points to the Jewish Intellectuals. The intellectual fire power behind Cultural Marxism has been Jewish intellects and then from there Jewish intellects co-opted the non-Caucasian races in Western lands to be the foot soldiers who did the long march through white western Christian institutions. Now, before Doug or any of his imps protest, I quite concede that there have been white people who jumped on the progressive left/Cultural Marxist Jewish bandwagon, however that does not in the least negate my observations above. Likewise I freely and gladly admit that there are sundry non-Caucasians who are in adamant opposition to the Jewish program of the progressive left/cultural Marxist agenda. We are talking here in terms of real generalities and not in terms of universals.

But Doug won’t name the Jewish intellectuals as the animating power behind the progressive left/cultural Marxism because, after all, all his Grandchildren have Jews for grandparents. What’s more Doug’s wife is 13% Jewish and Doug is himself 3% Jewish. As such Doug dare not name Jewish intellectuals as the problem. Instead evil white Kinism is a excessive response to the bland vanilla progressive left. Doug has no problem attacking white people as white people but you will never hear him speak of the problem of Jewish intellectuals.

In such a way Dougie can rail against evil Kinism while only hammering “the progressive left,” meanwhile leaving unnamed Jewish intellectuals who are seeking to tear down Western Christian Civilization. For Doug then the problem is;

A.) Evil Progressives
B.) Wicked over-reacting white Kinists
C.) But not a word touching Jewish intellectuals

Further Doug Wilson offers in this interview that Kinism is an over-reacting to white people being vilified. This over-reaction is seen in the Kinist statement, in the face of progressive accusations denouncing white people that, “that white people are the best thing that has ever happened because their white.”

I am a Kinist. I know lots of Kinists. I don’t know of any one Kinist who doesn’t understand and embrace that white people suffer from total depravity. This is the classic fallacy of red herring on Dougie’s part.

Then there is the issue that in this interview Rev. Wilson assumes throughout that only white people are Kinists. This is another bone-headed premise. I know plenty of non-Caucasian people who are Kinist.

It is clear here that Wilson really is out of his depths on this question.

Elsewhere Wilson says,

“Kinism teaches that if the progressive left, are going to accuse Kinists of being a thief then Kinists conclude, I might as well steal something.”

Doug Wilson

In reality what Kinism teaches, at least among white Kinists, is that we are no longer going to wallow in a false guilt and since we are not going to wallow in a false guilt we are going to praise our forefathers instead of being ashamed of them or apologizing for them. White Kinists teach that we are no longer going to put up with the slander and libel that comes from Alienists. White Kinists teach that there is nothing wrong with being grateful for our heritage recognizing that part of being grateful for our heritage is defending that heritage against the guilt mongers in our midst.

Doug Wilson teaches that Gospel prohibits both all racial malice and all racial vainglory.

Someone please get a memo to the Holy Spirit who said;

Titus 1:12As one of their own prophets has said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” 13This testimony is true.

Now if this isn’t racial malice, inspired by the Holy Spirit, I don’t know what racial malice is.

And in terms of racial vainglory St. Paul can say of the Jews;

Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises; of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.

Wilson, in the interview, by affirming a love for one’s grandmother, great-grandmother, etc. gives us a tribalism and goes on to say things that most Kinists would salute. But then he turns around and seeks to push outside the camp those people who say the very same thing he says in generically defining what is good about loving one’s own people. In doing so Doug sets himself up as the gatekeeper and throws everyone else under the bus. From there Wilson having fleshed out the generic statement of what he has given  contradicts much of his own general outline in other statements.

For example in the past Wilson has argued against a Kinist like policy of protectionism that would favor nearby producers (Kin) versus producers in Peking. Per Wilson, in a particularly cringe moment, Free Grace leads to Free Markets which leads to free trade. Wilson has argued for a immigration policy that finds the US seeking to assimilate those who are not assimilable.

So, per Doug’s usual modus operandi, Doug speaks out of both sides (maybe even several sides) of his mouth. Doug says general principles that kinists would salute. That is good. However when talking about details Doug often advances Alienists (opposite of Kinist) arguments. That is bad.