“I trust the integrity of both” (candidates.)
Rick Warren
CEO of Saddleback Community Center
Rick Warren knows the blood dripping from the hands of Barack Hussein Obama on the issue of abortion and he trusts his integrity?
That tells me a great deal about Warren’s integrity
“I have to tell you up front, both these guys are my friends. I don’t happen to agree with everything either of them teach or believe but they are both Patriots and they have very different views on how America can be strengthened in America. We’ve got to learn to disagree without demonizing each other and we need to restore civility. We need to restore civilty in our civil discourse and that’s the goal of the Saddleback civil forum.
Senator thank you. Now, would you stand — would you stand and thank Senator Barack Obama. Thank you.
I just want to remind you that one of the greatest freedoms we have here in America is the freedom of speech, even the freedom to protest this meeting. That’s a good thing, but we have to learn how to have civility in our civilization. How to stop being rude, how to stop demonizing each other, how to have a discussion and a debate because we all want America to be a greater place. God bless you.”
Rick Warren
CE0 — Saddleback Community Center
Here we see what Evangelicalism has been reduced to. Evangelicalism is all about being nice.
Civility occurs when your disagreeing over which way is the best way to drive to Aunt Millies for lunch. Civility is needed when you are discussing whether you should seed or sod when you landscape. Civility is needed when you’re disagreeing with an umpire over the called third strike. But how much civility is really required when we are debating with murderers of those not yet born? How much civility is really required when we are debating those who would continue to aid in the destruction of the spiritual and moral fabric of the country? When do we move past civility to pointed desperation in our debate?
We are dying as a people and culture, but what Warren seems to be primarily interested in our death throes is that we are civilized to each other while we are dying.
I am troubled and grieved at the differences and rumblings we are currently witnessing within reformed Christianity; some of them are even serious in nature, and we need to vigorously work them out. But we do not have mere differences with evangelicalism…it is another religion altogether, and the reformed churches need to be calling these guys out for the devils they are. We did that during and after the reformation with the anabaptists, but we often seem to take a softer tone with their modern day equivilents even approaching men like Warren as members of the family with whom we have intramural differences.
Greg,
This is an age where we dare not insist that we have a solid place to stand from which to interrogate the confused and popular. We desire to share their popularity and will pay the price of winking at their confusion in order to steal a little of their limelight.
The words “that thou sufferest the woman Jezebel” come to mind.
This is an age where we dare not insist that we have a solid place to stand from which to interrogate the confused and popular.
Oh c’mon, shouldn’t be that hard to find a place to stand. You can count our numbers without running out of fingers. How much space do we take up?
🙂
The problem with Rick Warren is that he is
a member of the Council of Foreign Relations.
Our presidential candidates are chosen for us
by this group and by the Bilderburgers. We
get the opportunity to vote for CFR candidate
A and CRF candidate B. It has been this way
in every presidential election since Woodrow
Wilson was elected.
Obama’s wife is the president of the Chicago
chapter of the CFR. John McCain is a CFR
member.
Ron Paul is not a part of this elite group,
which is why he was shunned and treated so
shabbily by the CFR controlled main stream
media during the debates.
Rick Warren is simply putting the evangelical
stamp of approval on these choices for his
CFR compatriots.
For further detail on the CFR I would recommend
the “Creature from Jekyll Island” and Daniel
Estulins excellent book on the Bilderburgers.
I’ve read “Creature From Jekyll Island.” It really is the case that more people should read that.
I’ll put the Estulins book on the Bilderburgers on my already swollen “must read” list.
Thanks Brandoman,
Bret
Wow, interesting, I didn’t know that Warren was a CFR member.
Then I located this:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53688
Wow! Thanks for the article link, JM.