Zrim,
So let me get this straight: The brand of compulsory education has a direct effect on the spiritual condition of people.
So, let me get this straight. Sending your children to schools that teach from a Humanist, or Muslim, or Satanist belief system doesn’t have a direct effect on the spiritual condition of people?
Zrim,
So what accounts for all the conflicts in Presbyterian and Reformed circles these days? CVT was a staunch proponent of parochial education and his broader Dutch Reformed tradition agreed with him. Whither his CRC? CSI trucks on with vigor as the CRC devolves with equal steam. Something tells me there is one mammoth disconnect here.
A large accounting of the conflicts in P & R circles is the fact that people like you are pushing a “Christian” agenda that owes more to Aristotelian humanist categories then it does the Bible.
Whither the CRC can be answered by pointing to how the CRC bought into humanist assumptions.
No, mammoth disconnections at all. It all makes quite a bit of sense.
Zrim,
I realize it will be guffawed, but it seems clear to me that what those who lend such a high ordination to the institution of education actually do is betray a low view of the family instead of a high one.
I am to busy guffawing to even begin to answer this.
The family (insofar as it is tucked nicely into the institution of church, of course) is what has the ordained power to nurture or destroy true faith, in mutual conjunction with the church. 8 hours in any sort of school pales in comparison to 1 with mom and dad, especially when that hour is in the pew. Education has its place, importance and dignity. But it isn’t the family. Something tells me that those who over-realize education might be the same ones who over-realize the function of statecraft to do more than it was ordained for as well.
When families turn their covenant seed over to the State schools, they have in essence, substituted the child’s family for the new family found in the State schools. The state schools, through peer pressure, shape the child’s passion. The state schools, through the brainwashing regimen, shape the child’s thought. The child grows up wanting to be like his family, the school, as opposed to the family God intended him to have.
I wonder if Zrim ever went to Public School – and that is exactly what they are; a state-run family. I have YET, and I know this is anecdotal, met a homeschool family experiencing the generation gap. Anywho, what is “guffawing” anyway?
Zrim sends his children to government schools. Hence his touchiness.
Guffawing is another word for cracking up laughing.
Bret
…it seems clear to me that what those who lend such a high ordination to the institution of education actually do is betray a low view of the family instead of a high one
Has he ever heard of RJ Rushdoony? The Puritans?
He thinks that Rushdoony is a heretic I’m sure.
The Puritans he would probably just say were wrong.
What can I say … he has the virus.
Bret
“The brand of compulsory education has a direct effect on the spiritual condition of people.”
No… not at all. When Jesus stated “A pupil is not above his teacher; but everyone, after he has been fully trained, will be like his teacher.” (Luke 6:40) he didn’t *really* mean to imply that if our children are taught by (spending 14,000 hours with) godless anti-Christ evolutionists, humanists, sodomites, murderers, thieves, liars, whores, witches, pedophiles, etc… that they would turn out like them.
Well only those crazy Scots like Rutherford believed in that stuff.
Is it really that hard to understand that state run schools are every bit as “parochial” as Christian schools?
Look at what a false disconnect from the Law will do. I guess Deut 6 holds no weight at all for them or a commentary on it in the Psalms. It amazes me that considering the verses below that anyone would want to send their children to a public school. If the Scriptures say that teaching our children to praise the Lord and that He created all things (verse 4) and that He has a law which is to be taught to our children and their children (5 & 6) so that they wouldn’t forget the Lord, why would someone want them to be taught that all of these things aren’t true?
Thanks for being a faithful pastor and refuting one of their giants. Acts 18:27-28
Psalm 78:1-7
1 Give ear, O my people, to my law;
Incline your ears to the words of my
mouth.
2 I will open my mouth in a parable;
I will utter dark sayings of old,
3 Which we have heard and known,
And our fathers have told us.
4 We will not hide them from their
children,
Telling to the generation to come the
praises of the LORD,
And His strength and His wonderful works
that He has done.
5 For He established a testimony in Jacob,
And appointed a law in Israel,
Which He commanded our fathers,
That they should make them known to
their children;
6 That the generation to come might know
them,
The children who would be born,
That they may arise and declare them to
their children,
7 That they may set their hope in God,
And not forget the works of God,
But keep His commandments;
Psalm 119:160
The entirety of Your word is truth
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16) All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17) so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Eight hours in a public school, eh?
“Mommy, what’s a reefer?”
“Daddy, drug dogs sniffed through my locker today.”
“Dad, I don’t understand why we hate homosexuals. All people are good.”
“Mom, I wanna go see Sex and the City. But please, all my friends are going. Please, please, please!”
Wow, that’s a lot for mom and dad to cover in one hour.