Teaching The Doctor

If people want the full context of this conversation, it is taking place at,

Why Is John Calvin Still Important?

The reader also needs to know that Darryl Hart and I have a long history. Dr. Darryl Hart is one of the key promoters of the R2Kt virus. He also delights in zinging his opponents. As such I try to return the playfulness.

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Darryl: I guess you don’t know how you sound. If you want to know how you sound I encourage you to read the comments at IronInk where I am cross posting your comments. The people there hear you to sound like someone very confused. I agree with them.

Can you deny that defacto godlessness reigns in the public square in this country? Obviously you can’t. Indeed you are contributing to it by insisting either that the public square be deistically sanitized of “religion” or that the polytheism of all religions be allowed into the public square. Yes, indeed Mr. Darryl, godlessness does reign.

I find it amusing that you are living in a society that aborts 1.3 million people annually, that is actively warring against Christianity in the curriculum of the government schools (consider California’s recent homosexualization of the school curriculum) where the State is constantly taking up the mantle of God walking on the earth, and you can say you wouldn’t want to live in a society of godlessness. You crack me up you silly man.

You glory in this virtuous society but I bet you if the unborn could speak they might say that Iraq is better than these United States.

You continue to be ignore the reality that the common grace of God may mitigate in any given society the degree of hostility that pagans have towards Christians. Because of this the godlessness in one culture may not be as far advanced in one society that is against Christ as it is in another. Even a Ph.D. ought to be able to understand this Darryl.

To make it as explicit and simple as possible for you Darryl, some godlessness is not as bad as other godlessness because some godlessness remains comparatively muted due to the reality that the worldview of the muted godlessness is being muted because of the remaining capital of Christianity that remains in the comparatively muted godless Worldview that is informing that society. In short the contradictions have not yet worked themselves out in the direction of full throated godlessness. So, people are either for or against God’s people but that for(ness) or against(ness) is comparatively stronger or weaker depending on how far the anti-thesis has worked itself out.

Finally, in your last example, I would say it is less bad, due to God’s common grace.

How many times are we up to where you imply I am a hypocrit by serving in the CRC?

I hoped I helped you to understand concepts that my children understood when they were in the fifth grade.

BTW, I know my theology stinks, but I do think you mean to say that Christ rules, not theology. It would be hard for me to imagine a doctrine ruling, and it would even be harder for me to believe that you could entertain the rule of anything else but Christ.

First, thanks for humbly admitting that your theology stinks. That took a lot for you to admit, I’m sure. You are to be commended.

Second, certainly Christ rules, but how would we ever know Christ apart from Christology? You’re not going pentecostal on me are you Darryl?

I’ll shut off my faucet if you turn off your constant dripping.

Author: jetbrane

I am a Pastor of a small Church in Mid-Michigan who delights in my family, my congregation and my calling. I am postmillennial in my eschatology. Paedo-Calvinist Covenantal in my Christianity Reformed in my Soteriology Presuppositional in my apologetics Familialist in my family theology Agrarian in my regional community social order belief Christianity creates culture and so Christendom in my national social order belief Mythic-Poetic / Grammatical Historical in my Hermeneutic Pre-modern, Medieval, & Feudal before Enlightenment, modernity, & postmodern Reconstructionist / Theonomic in my Worldview One part paleo-conservative / one part micro Libertarian in my politics Systematic and Biblical theology need one another but Systematics has pride of place Some of my favorite authors, Augustine, Turretin, Calvin, Tolkien, Chesterton, Nock, Tozer, Dabney, Bavinck, Wodehouse, Rushdoony, Bahnsen, Schaeffer, C. Van Til, H. Van Til, G. H. Clark, C. Dawson, H. Berman, R. Nash, C. G. Singer, R. Kipling, G. North, J. Edwards, S. Foote, F. Hayek, O. Guiness, J. Witte, M. Rothbard, Clyde Wilson, Mencken, Lasch, Postman, Gatto, T. Boston, Thomas Brooks, Terry Brooks, C. Hodge, J. Calhoun, Llyod-Jones, T. Sowell, A. McClaren, M. Muggeridge, C. F. H. Henry, F. Swarz, M. Henry, G. Marten, P. Schaff, T. S. Elliott, K. Van Hoozer, K. Gentry, etc. My passion is to write in such a way that the Lord Christ might be pleased. It is my hope that people will be challenged to reconsider what are considered the givens of the current culture. Your biggest help to me dear reader will be to often remind me that God is Sovereign and that all that is, is because it pleases him.

7 thoughts on “Teaching The Doctor”

  1. Darryl Hart said:
    I know I am dangerously stupid,

    If Hart really believed that he wouldn’t say it. On the other hand I find it prophetic. Hart IS stupid.

    but your lessons sure are hard to follow.

    Not if you’re not stupid Darryl

    Maybe that’s because neither the state nor the church administer logic.

    The real question Darryl, is how would you know?

  2. Bret,

    Just read thru the entire post – very good exchange…

    I must say it was Hart who went mostly ad hominin (which is what they accused you of) after you exposed the folly of his arguments.

    Your tone was no more no more disrespectful than much of Christ’s words in the NT

    Funny when 2k folks started loosing the argument they pull out the “he deserves respect” card (why he deserves any more respect than anyone else there I don’t know) or the “your being disrespectful” card. Then finally he plays the victim card (he slapped me around comments).

    Sheesh – they never apply the same rules to themselves…

    Luther might have aptly called these men theological cry babies

    Good work brother,

    Lar

    PS I especially like your lines:

    “It means that they accept the idea that God approves of the children Israel taking classes in Canaan on “The social theory behind sacrificing children to Molech,” and “How luck guided Israel to this land,” and “Economics that don’t take account of God.” Among other classes”

    and

    “Sure, you can soak a million rags in oil 40 hours a week for 13 years and it is possible that some of those rags won’t become oily rags”

    Great Stuff! Can I use these lines in future dialog on my blog and at TEDS on education discussions?

  3. Larry,

    You can use anything and everything you find here.

    Thanks for the encouragement. After awhile one begins to wonder if one is as really a mean of a bastard as your enemies say that you are.

    In the last post they deleted I told Dr. Hart that he had engaged in the classic approach to lost arguments. Which is to say, when you lose an argument attack the arguer.

  4. I didn’t paraphrase the second deleted post they deleted at green baggins. I can neither paraphrase it nor post it because a green baggins moderator deleted it and I didn’t save it.

  5. You wrote previously,
    “n the last post they deleted I told Dr. Hart that he had engaged in the classic approach to lost arguments. Which is to say, when you lose and argument attack the arguer.”

    That sounds like a paraphrase to me.

    “I can neither paraphrase it nor post it because a green baggins moderator deleted it and I didn’t save it.”

    I think you have a future in politics.

  6. LOL…

    The deleted post was quite long. I hardly consider one sentence to be a paraphrase of the whole post, which is, after all, what you asked for.

    I think you have a future in the mainline media, given your attempt to twist things.

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