“The alien who is among you shall rise above you higher and higher, but you will go down lower and lower. He shall lend to you, but you will not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you will be the tail. So all these curses shall come on you and pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you would not obey the LORD your God by keeping His commandments and His statutes which He commanded you.” ~ Deuteronomy 28
This warning of God to Israel speaks of the consequences to God’s people for disobedience to the covenant. America is not God’s covenant people as Israel was and yet all nations who flout God’s ways are subject to God’s judgments against that nation which rebels against God. One sign that God is entering into judgment against a people is the reality that the indigenous people are vomited out of the land much like the land vomited the Canaanites out of the land when God entered into judgment against a people who were not His people. The pursuit of comprehensive immigration reform (aka — Amnesty plus for Illegal immigrants) for 12-20 million illegal immigrants is a sign that God has sent a strong delusion upon our elite for the purposes of continuing to judge America.
The result of amnesty for 12-20 million illegal immigrants will be the erasure of our unique identity as a nation-state. This move takes us from citizenship as Americans to citizens of the continent of North America. Just as with the victory of the North over the South in the war of Northern Aggression deleted the notion of unique identity by regionalism or by state in favor of identity according to attachment to the Nation State so amnesty for illegal immigrants will delete the unique identity of Americans according to the nation in favor of identity according to our hemisphere. This is all part of the new world order of globalism that all people’s are being herded into.
Also, keep in mind that if amnesty (comprehensive immigration reform) goes through this means additional pressure on the social order through the certain collapse of the social safety net. There is simply no way that our social services infrastructure can accommodate the additional millions and millions of people who will come to America after amnesty is given to the 12-20 million illegal immigrants that are already here. (Remember we tried this “one time amnesty” shot once before in 1986 and 25 years later we now have another 12-20 million we for whom we are going to render up another “one time amnesty” program. If the last “one time amnesty” program ended up with 12-20 million more illegal immigrants how many more illegal immigrants will this version of the one time amnesty program yield?)
It is probably to late to stop this illegal immigration amnesty program though there are times I think that if the elite really push this it will be their Waterloo. I sometimes think that this is the issue over which the bullets could start flying.
A few random thoughts on illegal immigration.
1.)A biblical approach to immigration would be to allow untrammeled immigration AND to have provision by which unbelieving immigrants could not change a godly social order. This is what you find in the Old Testament. However, one can not say they are advocating for a Biblical basis of immigration by insisting on untrammeled immigration without the mechanisms in place to create and maintain a godly social order. To insist on the first half (untrammeled immigration) without insisting on the second half (godly social order) is like advocating for Biblical sex without a bride.
Without a bride Biblical sex is not biblical and without a godly social order advocating untrammeled immigration is not biblical. You can’t appeal to half a solution and insist that you are being true to the whole solution that Scripture warrants.
You have to have a godly social order being maintained before you can argue that untrammeled immigration is biblical. If there is not godly social order in place and being maintained then whatever you are arguing for when you argue for untrammeled immigration you are not arguing for a Biblical position.
2.) If you stop the welfare state and if you enforce the demand side of the problem by bring heavy fines against those who hire illegals then you won’t need to ask for papers. Illegal Immigration will largely take care of itself. This is important to keep in mind when people continue to insist that one certainly can’t be in favor of rounding up 15 million illegal immigrants. We won’t have to round up illegal immigrants if there is no incentive for them to stay.
3.) The idea that Leviathan will shackle American citizens if we stop illegal immigration is easily countered by the reality that if we extend amnesty to 15 million Hispanics we will guarantee Leviathan will never be brought to heel as the overwhelming percentage of these votes will be cast to permanently establish the welfare State and to fix upon us the cultural Marxist vision.
Again … enforcement can be easily settled by turning off the cash incentives. Also, we should legislate against the whole notion of anchor Babies.
4.)
Question asked,
Gentlemen, do Ex. 22:21 and 23:9 have anything to say about this situation?
Bret responds,
Scripture can not be successfully appealed to, to support illegal immigration UNLESS Scripture is also appealed to in the means it required to protect a God ordained social order. The stranger was to be treated w/ kindness BUT he was not allowed, by the mass of his numbers, to establish a social order that was contrary to God’s law Word.
So, when we have a social order that will not allow the immigrant to destroy what very little remains of a social order that still has a trace of memory of Christianity then I will be all for untrammeled immigration.
Also, keep in mind that being kind to the stranger does not mean endorsing the welfare state.
People, have to keep in mind that what is behind the call for amnesty for illegal immigrants is the desire to completely demolish the residue of Christian influence and Christian structures and Christian social order. To support this is to support the death of institutional and culture wide Christianity in support of Leviathan — a religion where the state is God in which the citizenry lives and moves and has their being.
5.) I know America is not Israel. That reality makes flat appeals to the Scriptures to be as flat as they are. This is why I insist you can’t just read the requirement for kindness to the stranger as support for the erasure of borders. We also have to think about kindness to those who are living here. It is entirely possible that a certain kindness to illegal immigrants could mean a definite hard-hardheartedness towards the citizen and the native born.
Since America is not Israel then we should not point to passages in Exodus to inform us of our position on illegal immigration and amnesty since our domestic situation is completely and utterly contrary to Israels. As such, we have to know the times and understand the ideological currents that are pushing certain immigration advocacy.
And I’m telling you, that the ideological current that is pushing amnesty for 15 million illegal immigrants is one that desires to use the votes of those new citizens to completely overthrow any remnant whatsoever of America’s founding ideology and theology.
6.) Also, this matter of amnesty for 15-20 million illegal immigrants brings us to the subject of balkanization. A case can be easily made that with comprehensive immigration reform, as it is now packaged, the result will be to turn this nation into what the former Yugoslavia was after WW II. America is increasingly turning into a nation of nations, and a culture of cultures as these are both produced by various faith systems. The only way conflicting cultures, faiths, and visions of nationhood can be tamed is by a governmental apparatus that can use the heavy hand of the nation state to police the competing interests. In such a balkanized arrangement the State becomes the mediator, policeman, judge, and executioner in order to determine the limits of the competing cultures, faiths and visions of nationhood that exist in the balkanized nation-state.
I’m glad that you pointed out America is not Israel and therefore the laws pertinent to the strangers would not be applicable.
That’s a good argument. I wish Theonomists would go ahead and apply that Covenant-nature of the Law to their entire thesis and then they would realize that just as it would be a profanation of the Law to apply the immigration code to America, so would it be for all the Mosaic Law.
The Messiah has come. We don’t need the types and shadows and we certainly understand that to divide the law and retain the typology of Christ as Judge while removing the typology of Christ as Saviour would destroy the integrity of the Law itself.
I appreciate your point on immigration. It just furthers the argument and exposes the inconsistency and a-Covenantal nature of Theonomic thought.
John A.
John,
You missed the point.
The immigration laws Are applicable. However, they are only applicable when all of them are applied. It is not a profanation of the Law to apply the immigration code to America. It is a profanation of the Law to apply the immigration code to America when the Biblical immigration law is only applied selectively.
Westminster confession of faith makes it clear that the general equity of the law still applies which is all theonomists argue for. Those who contend against theonomists continue to show their public square antinomian colors.
The Messiah has come and is ascended. Because the Messiah is ascended He rules according to His never negated moral and case Law-Word.
What I see you types doing John is that you divide the offices of Christ. You desire a Christ who is Priest without a Christ who is King who rules according to His Law-Word which shall never pass away.
You may appreciate my point on immigration but since you are operating autonomously on this matter and a host of others it is just coincidence, given your ongoing inconsistency, that you appreciate what I am saying on this point.
The Westminster 3 fold division is nowhere taught in the Scriptures. The Mosaic Covenant was a Unity…it all stands or falls together. It’s all in the book of Hebrews.
Edom and Moab were never under the Mosaic Law…because it is Covenantal. To be under it, they would have needed to become Jews.
Taking Covenantal typological law and applying only one part of the picture..Christ as Judge, and failing to understand the whole picture of Christ as Judge/Christ as Redeemer is in the end to profane the law. It is to strip it of its covenantal holy status and reduce it to a common grace ordering mechanism. God has already given us that in nature.
To suppose the unregenerate who cannot see the Kingdom…and cannot obey God’s holy laws due to their fallen state…is to reject Paul’s argument in Romans and to assume a Pelagian view of fallen man. He can the pagan please God by keeping His laws? This is indeed a profanation of the law.
The Kingdom is not of this world. He rules by the power of the Holy Spirit. The Judaized version of the kingdom you’re advocating was the hope of the Pharisees and utterly rejected by Christ and the Apostles. The Holy Society has always been the pagan ideal. Israel as a true Theocracy represented a Pilgrim kingdom in a composite geo-political order. And today, the Church is the Pilgrim kingdom in composite societies.
You didn’t understand about the immigration point. I was being sarcastic…your argument defeats your central thesis and shows the arbitrariness of your system. When it is convenient you appeal to a mistaken a-covenantal universality of the law, but when it is inconvenient you appeal to the covenantal nature of God’s people.
By going beyond the scope of Scripture and employing a philosophical construct that does not allow Common Grace to function, and using the false theonomy/autonomy dilemma, you set out to construct sphere-blueprints which go beyond the scope of the Scriptures and their purpose as a revelation of Jesus Christ. This is the very autonomous thought you would hope to avoid. The common grace realm allows the pagan world to function. Their thought is autonomous and thus in the end sinful, but governed by Providence is entirely sufficient to create a matrix for the Kingdom to operate. God can pull back that restraining hand, and often He does. It’s not our job to try and turn the City of Man into the City of God. It can never be. Christ will destroy it by fire. It’s temporary.
Sorry, but Theonomic Reconstructionism has misread the Bible on a massive scale.
The Monistic construction of a Sacralized Society is exactly what the New Testament warns us against.
I’m not trying to be mean. I’m hoping to make you think, because you’re focused on building the wrong kingdom and you’re fighting the wrong battles.
Think about it.
Peace,
John A.