Twin Spin … Dr. Van Til vs. The R2K Lads

“If then Christianity as interpreted in the Reformed creeds, as championed by Kuyper, Bavinck, Hodge, Warfield, and Machen, is to be presented to men today, ministers must learn to understand the riches of their own position. Christianity …is the sine qua non of the intelligibility of anything. Why am I so much interested in science? It is a) because with Kuyper I believe that God requires of us that we claim every realm of being for Him, and b) because with Kuyper I believe that unless we press the crown rights of our King in every realm, we shall not long retain them in any realm.”

Cornelius Van Til, “The Defense of the Faith”, pg. 276

1.) Van Til was not R2K and the R2K lads need to give up claiming Van Til.

A.) Van Til says that, “Christianity is the sine qua non of the intelligibility of anything.” R2K says, “No, that is inaccurate. What is the sine qua non of the intelligibility in the common realm is not Christianity but Natural Law.”

B.) Van Til, with Kuyper believed that every realm — including the common realm — must be claimed for God. R2K says to Van Til, “No, ‘Kees,’ don’t you understand that the common realm can’t be captured for God since the common realm is a realm of creation and not redemption?”

C.) Van Til understood that the realms were integrated to some degree so that if the R2K common realm caught a cold the result would be that the R2K spiritual realm would sneeze. R2K would say to Van Til, “No, Kees you don’t realize that the common realm and the spiritual realm are compartmentalized from one another so much so that Scripture is not the moral standard for the common kingdom. The common realm and the spiritual realm are sealed tight from one another Kees.”

“Moreover, in paradise, supernatural revelation, that is, thought-communication on the part of God, accompanied God’s revelation in the created universe. Natural revelation therefore required supernatural revelation as its supplement even apart from the fact of sin. Even in paradise Adam had to regard all the facts of his natural environment in the light of the goal that God set for man in his supernatural revelation.”

Cornelius Van Til, “The Defense of the Faith”, pg. 205

If Van Til is correct here then Natural Law, as a means by which social order can be organized, is not possible. Natural revelation (of which Natural law is a subset) needs supernatural revelation in order to make sense. To state it differently, for natural revelation to gain traction it must presuppose special revelation. Yet, that is precisely what R2K denies. R2K affirms that Natural law can be understood quite fine apart from and without special revelation and insists that a cohesive God honoring social order can be built on Natural law.

Author: jetbrane

I am a Pastor of a small Church in Mid-Michigan who delights in my family, my congregation and my calling. I am postmillennial in my eschatology. Paedo-Calvinist Covenantal in my Christianity Reformed in my Soteriology Presuppositional in my apologetics Familialist in my family theology Agrarian in my regional community social order belief Christianity creates culture and so Christendom in my national social order belief Mythic-Poetic / Grammatical Historical in my Hermeneutic Pre-modern, Medieval, & Feudal before Enlightenment, modernity, & postmodern Reconstructionist / Theonomic in my Worldview One part paleo-conservative / one part micro Libertarian in my politics Systematic and Biblical theology need one another but Systematics has pride of place Some of my favorite authors, Augustine, Turretin, Calvin, Tolkien, Chesterton, Nock, Tozer, Dabney, Bavinck, Wodehouse, Rushdoony, Bahnsen, Schaeffer, C. Van Til, H. Van Til, G. H. Clark, C. Dawson, H. Berman, R. Nash, C. G. Singer, R. Kipling, G. North, J. Edwards, S. Foote, F. Hayek, O. Guiness, J. Witte, M. Rothbard, Clyde Wilson, Mencken, Lasch, Postman, Gatto, T. Boston, Thomas Brooks, Terry Brooks, C. Hodge, J. Calhoun, Llyod-Jones, T. Sowell, A. McClaren, M. Muggeridge, C. F. H. Henry, F. Swarz, M. Henry, G. Marten, P. Schaff, T. S. Elliott, K. Van Hoozer, K. Gentry, etc. My passion is to write in such a way that the Lord Christ might be pleased. It is my hope that people will be challenged to reconsider what are considered the givens of the current culture. Your biggest help to me dear reader will be to often remind me that God is Sovereign and that all that is, is because it pleases him.

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