Gottfried Insists that WOKEism Doesn’t Arise Out of Marxism … A Conversation Part III

Over at Chronicles Magazine Jewish Intellectual Paul Gottfried advances the idea that “Marxism is not Woke.” In this conversation with Gottfried I am disagreeing with that sentiment. This is part II.

https://chroniclesmagazine.org/recent-features/marx-was-not-woke/

Paul Gottfried wrote (PG)

Corporate capitalists who donate money to the Democratic National Committee and to its counterparts in Western Europe and the Anglosphere will not go begging if the eco-militants get their way. The state-protected rich are already making profits by converting to green energy. The corporate class enjoys the benefits of government contracts and having their earnings protected in tax-exempt funds. If capitalists pour their money into Black Lives Matter, critical race theory, and LGBT, it is not because they are Marxists. Rather, they represent what Pedro Gonzalez characterizes as “the counterrevolution of the left.” Citibank, Disneyworld, Coca Cola, Pfizer, etc. belong to the privileged class in woke America, and it is the predominantly white working class who will pay by taxes for the woke regime in which our corporate giants are invested.

Bret responds,

In part II we already established the long history of mega Corporatists (Crony Capitalists) working hand in glove with the Marxists throughout the history of Marxism. That it is happening once again is just business as usual. As such we would say that PG is just in plain error when he says that  “If capitalists pour their money into Black Lives Matter, critical race theory, and LGBT, it is not because they are Marxists.” Quite to the contrary we would say that this does indeed provide yet another piece of evidence that they are, at the very least, fellow travelers with the Marxists. I mean, of course the Crony Capitalists may not be doctrinaire Marxists, but you can bet they will continue to say “comrade” and speak with a Marxist lisp until another ideology provides a better opportunity for profit. These “Capitalists” are worse than Marxists. They are those who St. Paul said of “their God is their stomach.”

Finally, its always the white working class who pay for the various Marxists expressions. Jewish Bankers and their Shabazz Goy never pay for their own disasters. PG has yet to provide any proof that WOKEism is not Marxism.

PG writes,

Even the Biden administration’s proposed hike in corporate tax rates from 21 percent to 28 percent will likely impact wage earners far more than the upper 5 percent of the income scale. It has been predicted that 50 percent of these added costs will result in wage reductions and increased prices for consumers. The inflation already produced by our present administration has hurt the working and middle classes far more than the earnings of those making annually $500,000 or more, yet that is the class on which the Biden administration claims to be imposing the cost of green energy and social redistribution programs. In the end, the rich may have the least to fear from the government-manufactured rise in the price of essential goods, starting with food and fuel. According to the Congress’ Ways and Means Committee, by June of last year, Biden’s inflation had wiped out the life savings of over 26 million low-income families.

Bret responds,

A heavy progressive or graduated income tax was one of the planks of the Communist (Marxist) manifesto. PG with this paragraph gives us more proof that WOKE is indeed Marxist.

PG writes,

Behemoth, a famous Marxist study published by Franz Neumann in 1934, seems to be as applicable to our present ruling class as it was to economic elites under the Third Reich. Neumann’s study may be describing our woke capitalists even more plausibly than those German plutocrats whom Neumann thought were building a corporate state in alliance with Hitler. Curiously, German industrialists and bankers may have been more reluctant to jump onto the Nazi train than our corporate elites have been to join the cheering gallery for gender reassignment and anti-white racism. In any case it is exceedingly difficult to imagine that “American Marxists” would threaten the corporate wealth of our crony capitalist wokesters.

Bret responds,

A main premise of PG seems to be that crony capitalist wokesters can’t at the same time be Marxist. I mention yet again that Antony Sutton in his trilogy in part II of this series just destroys that premise. Crony Capitalists have always worked hand and glove with Marxists, regardless of the ideological flavor of the day. Marxists have never threatened the corporate wealth of the mega rich crony capitalists.

I guess I should say here that I don’t agree with PG that Fascism wasn’t likewise just another variant of Marxism. It is the case with WOKEism, Fascism, and International Socialism that each desires to concentrate power and control in the state. Each are leveling ideologies. Each are the ideological consequence as affecting political orders, law orders, and social orders found in the denial of God in favor of man being God walking the earth. Each, not only being Atheistic, are materialistic and so behavioristic practicing a vicious social engineering. Each practice some version of legal positivism. Not having the concept of absolute transcendent truth each embrace the Marxist materialistic dialectic to arrive at truth and to support their notion of “progress.” Each are opposed to the Kingdom of God and so are committed to building the Kingdom of Man. Each believe that man is good and the progress is inevitable. Each believe that the progress of evolution can be controlled and guided by the elite. I grant some of the whistles and bells may differ between each but the essentials of Marxism are all there in all three.

PG writes,

Unlike Marxism, moreover, the woke left has long ceased paying homage to science and rationality. The left is driven by hate against traditional Americans with fixed gender roles, communal hierarchies, and some form of inherited religious faith. Truth, for the woke left, is determined and redefined by those in power. Woke beliefs have no necessary connection to what is empirically provable, since from the woke perspective, Western science and empirical demonstration are tainted by white, masculine, racist prejudice. Communism in Europe, at least in practice, never showed the frenzied nihilistic energy that seems endemic to the woke left. From tearing down statues to abolishing genders to inciting mob violence against white Americans to throwing open borders for invasion by Third World migrants, the woke left seems far more socially and culturally destructive than most past Communist governments.

Bret responds,

Here, upon reading this, I almost bust a gut laughing.

Has Gottfried never heard of the Marxist “Scientist” Trofim Lysenko whose science resulted in mass murder on a gargantuan scale?

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/12/trofim-lysenko-soviet-union-russia/548786/

“Although it’s impossible to say for sure, Trofim Lysenko probably killed more human beings than any individual scientist in history…. Lysenko, a Soviet biologist, condemned perhaps millions of people to starvation through bogus agricultural research—and did so without hesitation.”

Why would PG ever think that Marxism ever paid any homage and rationality? That is itself a irrational statement of staggering proportions on the part of PG. From the experiments of Alexandra Kollontai in social science on the family to Mao’s “science” as applied to industry which established ‘Backyard furnaces’ among the peasantry that would be used to smelt (meltdown and purify) scrap iron – from old farming tools to household implements such as cooking utensils and woks, which ended in disaster Marxists have always been fools when it comes to “science.” PG again is in significant error when he suggests that we know WOKE isn’t Marxist because of its foolishness when in comes to science. Marxists have killed scores of millions because of their neanderthal “science.”

That whole paragraph above this response by PG is deserves nothing but a long and sustained belly laugh. One thing that Marxism and WOKEism have in common is their insistence that they can bend scientific science to support their social construct reality non-reality.

Indeed, I would argue that the whole recent plannedemic was born of Marxist ideology. Anthony Fauci was the second coming of Trofim Lysenko.

One way I know that WOKEism is Marxism is because each of them think they can bend “science” to their utter, complete, and total irrationality.

Allow me to say again, that this assertion by Paul Gottfried that Marxism is unlike WOKEism inasmuch as Marxism payed homage to science and rationality goes a long way toward not only discrediting this article by Gottfried but discrediting much of what else PG might write.

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