Klavin Compares Holocaust to Crucifixion … McAtee Recoils

“Let me tell you what the holocaust was. This will drive some of you crazy but it’s true. The holocaust was the Crucifixion on iMax. It was for those who missed the point the first time that this is who we are (this is who people are). That we will take up … if you don’t think that Jesus bled when little children were led into a gas chamber you don’t know who Jesus Christ is. I don’t care what you say. I don’t care how many times you tell me ‘Christ is King,’ you don’t understand. You don’t understand what is going on, you know.”

Andrew Klavin
Author – “The Great Good Thing: A Secular Jew Comes to Faith in Christ.”

1.) The holocaust was the Crucifixion on iMax? Sorry Andrew but no amount of suffering on the part of all people groups combined or by one solo people group alone can compare in any degree to the sufferings of Christ.

2.) Mr. Klaven, it’s probably hard for you to understand but the Bagels did not suffer in any way they did not deserve nor in any way more expansive than any number of other people groups in history. Bagels did not suffer in any way they did not deserve because what all people deserve is eternal death. The surprise is not that Bagels were treated the way the way they were treated during what is called the holocaust. The surprise is that there are any people group doesn’t suffer that way all the time always.

Further, Bagels did not suffer in any way deeper, larger, or more expansive than many other people groups in history is proven by history itself. The Christians murdered during the Holodomor by the Bagel Bolsheviks was much worse in terms of total numbers. The Khmer who were tortured and murdered during the work of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia was, per capita, far far worse than what the Bagels suffered. The Chinese people during the reign of Mao suffered far more than Bagels. The Armenians suffered per capita far more hardships at the hands of the Muslims ( “Donmeh” – Crypto Bagels) than the Bagels suffered in WW II. You Bagels do not have a corner on suffering, persecutions, or hardships, though the way you act one would think you did think that was the case.

3.) Jesus Christ bled and died once. He has not bled again for any reason for anybody since that time. This is not to say that Christ doesn’t have compassion on those (children and adults) who He has claimed for His own.

4.) It remains an open question whether any Bagels died by being gassed in any oven. The evidence of gas chambers is contested to this day.

4.) This whole quote is just one emotional jag by Klavin meant to make Christian white men feel guilty once again over the poor mistreated Bagels. Would that Bagels would feel guilty about crucifying Christ.

5.) As a whole what this jag does is it seeks to exchange the faith of Christianity for the new faith of Holocaustianity.

Author: jetbrane

I am a Pastor of a small Church in Mid-Michigan who delights in my family, my congregation and my calling. I am postmillennial in my eschatology. Paedo-Calvinist Covenantal in my Christianity Reformed in my Soteriology Presuppositional in my apologetics Familialist in my family theology Agrarian in my regional community social order belief Christianity creates culture and so Christendom in my national social order belief Mythic-Poetic / Grammatical Historical in my Hermeneutic Pre-modern, Medieval, & Feudal before Enlightenment, modernity, & postmodern Reconstructionist / Theonomic in my Worldview One part paleo-conservative / one part micro Libertarian in my politics Systematic and Biblical theology need one another but Systematics has pride of place Some of my favorite authors, Augustine, Turretin, Calvin, Tolkien, Chesterton, Nock, Tozer, Dabney, Bavinck, Wodehouse, Rushdoony, Bahnsen, Schaeffer, C. Van Til, H. Van Til, G. H. Clark, C. Dawson, H. Berman, R. Nash, C. G. Singer, R. Kipling, G. North, J. Edwards, S. Foote, F. Hayek, O. Guiness, J. Witte, M. Rothbard, Clyde Wilson, Mencken, Lasch, Postman, Gatto, T. Boston, Thomas Brooks, Terry Brooks, C. Hodge, J. Calhoun, Llyod-Jones, T. Sowell, A. McClaren, M. Muggeridge, C. F. H. Henry, F. Swarz, M. Henry, G. Marten, P. Schaff, T. S. Elliott, K. Van Hoozer, K. Gentry, etc. My passion is to write in such a way that the Lord Christ might be pleased. It is my hope that people will be challenged to reconsider what are considered the givens of the current culture. Your biggest help to me dear reader will be to often remind me that God is Sovereign and that all that is, is because it pleases him.

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