Democrats are trying to sell this election cycle as a repudiation of MAGA.
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McAtee & Fuentes Exposing the Republican Grift
Long ago in my reading I came across a description of a Billy Sunday Revival meeting. Billy was having some of his revivals during the draft era of WW I. In my reading the author was describing how Billy would get the young men “saved” and then the counselors were told to take the young men from the altar where they got “saved” to back behind the podium-stage where these young men could then sign up for military service in the US military in order to fight in W.W. I. Billy’s revivals, in these cases where not really about Jesus but were about using Jesus to fill up the ranks of the US military. Jesus was a gimmick. Jesus, in those Billy Sunday revivals were like the adds you used to see on TV where they were selling product X for 39.99 whereupon the announcer would say … “But if you buy now, you’ll also get products “Y” and “Z” for the same low price. Billy might have said … “Not only do you get Jesus but you get to fight for your country also.”
Well, something similar to that happened on the 21 September at the Charlie Kirk llamapalooza/extravaganza. Jesus was used as the bait in order to hook people into supporting the Republican party. Whereas Billy gave you military service with your Jesus, the Republican party this past Sunday night gave the viewers the Republican party with the views Jesus. “Not only do you get Jesus, but if you buy now you also get being a supporter of the Republican party at the same low low price.”
This was all pure marketing, and manipulation.
Now, I don’t doubt that there are people who were genuinely redeemed last Sunday night. I have no doubt that God will use the death of Charlie Kirk and the Kirk llamapalooza in order to draw people to Himself. I fully acknowledge that Christ was proclaimed by some of the speakers Sunday night. For all this we can be thankful. However, none of that changes that what happened last Sunday was a con put on by first rate Republican grifters, using Jesus as their rallying point. These chap couldn’t give a horse’s ass about the resurrected, ascended and reigning Lord Jesus Christ except as a means of bringing people into the Republican party. If these politicians thought hooking the name of Charlie Kirk with Satanism would balloon the size of the Republican base they would have a lollapalooza standing with Satan on the side of Charlie Kirk.
Nick Fuentes caught some of what I am getting at above in his analysis of the Kirk llamapalooza
“If you want Christ to be at the center of your politics, he can’t be a fucking gimmick. He’s not a slogan. When we say ‘it’s all about Jesus,’ we are not doing it with our right hand in the air like ‘alight everybody, let’s go and vote Republican.’ No, this is literally life and death. Life and death, for you and and me, for the GOP, for America. It’s something we take more seriously than anything. And so when they’re getting up there and saying ‘Alright, stand up and say you believe in Jesus and scan the QR code and then collect your voter registration,’ it comes across flippant. It comes across as borderline sacrilegious and maybe while well intentioned -maybe it comes from a good place but I don’t like where it is going and where it is going is weaponizing an earnest seeking of people. You have a lot of young people and a lot of even older people — decent people in America – who saw evil take the life of a good man and they were moved to action because we don’t want to see evil takeover our society, and they’re being funneled into this voter registration now. People are coming to this event seeking God weeping and affected and they’re getting fundraising non-profit bullshit which if you’re in the political world you know what that is. You’re getting a girl coming up with an I-pad saying; ‘get I can your email? Ok, we’re going to send you an email. Scan the QR code. We are going to get you set up. Here’s your bag.’ And it’s like ‘can we give them something real?’ To me that came across as cynical, calculated, opportunistic, and exploitative and that’s what politics is but don’t do that in the name of Jesus Christ and don’t do that with the death — don’t do that with the funeral.”
And while we are on this subject, I see a good deal of this kind of grift going on in the “Christian” social media world as well. People, in my opinion, are striking stances on various issues, insisting that somehow these stances are all about Jesus when in point of fact Jesus is incidental to the (sometimes even correct) stances they are taking. There is a huge amount of grift out there in the “ministry” world right now and as always the counsel is to the consumer, “Let the buyer beware.”
The Kirk Extravaganza…. Random Observations II
“In the present ubiquity of ignorance, one cannot but suspect that many who call themselves Christians do not understand what the word means, and that some who would vigorously repudiate Christianity are more Christian than many who maintain it. p. 14. Towards the end of 1938 we experienced a wave of revivalism which should teach us that folly is not the prerogative of any one political party or any one religious communion, and that hysteria is not the privilege of the uneducated. … The religious fervor has been a fervor for democracy. It may engender nothing better than a disguised and peculiarly sanctimonious nationalism, accelerating our progress towards the paganism which we say we abhor. To justify Christianity because it provides a foundation of morality, instead of showing the necessity of Christian morality from the truth of Christianity, is a very dangerous inversion.” pp. 18-19.
T.S. Eliot
‘The Idea of a Christian Society’
I continue to comment on the Kirk extravaganza by way of random observations. I find this kind of extravaganza to be fascinating, in part because of my life long interests. My degree work in under-grad was politics, history, and religion-philosophy. My degree work in graduate school (Seminary) was theology and cross-cultural ministry. My reading since graduating from both has continued to be largely in these fields while also including sociology and economics. In the Kirk Extravaganza this all comes together as stirred in one pot. The attraction for me to this thing is like a honey bee’s attraction to a flower. I find it fascinating.
Yesterday’s observations earned for me the comment from another conservative clergy Baptist that the reasons for my observations and my unwillingness to jump on the MAGA Kirk extravaganza train is because I am a purist. To that accusation, I can only proclaim that “I am guilty as charged,” right along with the Apostle Paul, Athanasius, Chrysostom, Augustine, Gottschalk of Orbais, Hus, Luther, Calvin, Cromwell, Paisley, Knox, Goodman, Dabney, Machen, etc. There could be worse company to keep. Honestly though, it seems to me the only place left if one is not a purist is to admit that one is a compromiser.
It ought to be clear from yesterday’s post that I am very leery of what is happening. As I said yesterday, I am with St. Paul that we ought to rejoice that whether in pretense or truth Christ is proclaimed. You will see in today’s post that I point out where the Gospel was proclaimed.
Some have (I think rightly) pointed out that the Kirk extravaganza has more than a few parallels with the way the murder of Horst Wessel was used by the National Socialists in the 1930s. The 22 year old Wessel was murdered by the Communists and he became, by the arts of Joseph Goebbels, a martyr for the Nazis around which to rally the German people. That story is limned out a wee bit here;
https://goldengate.substack.com/p/remembering-horst-wessel
I don’t think there can be any doubt whatsoever that Charlie Kirk’s murder is being used in a way that can only be described as propaganda. This is also seen in the way that Kirk’s memory is being fought over. “Kirk was about to become Roman Catholic say the Roman Catholics.” “Kirk was on a trajectory wherein he was going to fully understand the Bagel problem say the Groypers .” “Charlie would want us to….” “Do it for Charlie…” “We are all Charlie Kirk now.” These are all examples of how Kirk is being apotheosized before our very eyes.
Like all symbols Kirk is transcending reasonable analysis that may properly critique real faults with the man and is being lifted up to an untouchable status . Think Abraham Lincoln, or Martin Luther King, or George Washington. Kirk is reaching pantheon status. I don’t do pantheon because the best of men are men at best.
So, the assassination of Kirk has become our Horst Wessel moment. True or not I have no problem with one possible result of our current Horst Wessel moment and that is the destruction of the Marxist left. Even if the memory of the martyred Kirk is being used to manipulate people into supporting the destruction of the Marxist left I am good with that. What I’m not good with is how easily this whole thing could “jump the shark.” I am not convinced that the MAGA movement is particularly Christian and this Horst Wessel moment could be easily used by the Peter Theils, Bill Gates, Larry Ellisons, Mark Zuckerbergs, Jeff Bezos and the rest of the NWO, AI tech villains whose money is behind much of the MAGA movement. Those people scare me almost as much as the Marxist left.
So, I remain cynical. Very cynical regarding this cultural moment. But, I am a cynical chap so that should surprise no one.
Well, on to my random observations;
1.) J. D. Vance went out of his way to proclaim “Christ is King.” A good amount of cheering resulted. You’ll know that MAGA and Republicans are serious about “Christ is King,” when we start seeing sodomites removed from the Government where “Christ is King.”
2.) “Politics at its core is a process of critiquing other people and getting them to change. Christianity … The Gospel message, the message of Jesus begins with repentance. Christianity calls upon you to change…. The only thing that really matters is when we repent of our sins.”
2.) Tulsi Gabbard talked about “God” a great deal in her speech last night. Gabbard is a practicing Hindu. Pray tell, what God was she talking about last night? She also talked about right and wrong a great deal. Since right and wrong are always descendent from some God or god concept it’s really important to know if Gabbard is talking about right and wrong per her god Vishnu.
3.) Rubio and Hegseth’s presentations were quite good except where Hegseth offered that the gates of hell will not prevail over Charlie Kirk. That was pretty close to idolatry.
My only question for Rubio is… “Where has this Christianity been before last night? Why have you never spoken of it before.” I’m pretty confident that Rubio had a good speechwriter and I find it hard to believe he really knew his material.
4.) In his speech Dr. Ben Carson reference W. Cleon Skousen’s book “The Naked Communist” written in the 1950s. Great book dealing with the Marxist intent to destroy the US from the inside out. I would highly recommend reading that book. Though dated the book still resonates. I thought Carson was sincere and the most genuine of all the politicians who spoke.
8.) “Charlie asked me if I were scared of dying and I said there’s a lot worse things than death and one of those things is if we lost the constitutional rights in this country and our children were raised as slaves. And I said to charlie sometimes the best consolation we can hope for is that we get to die with our boots on. Well Charlie died w/ his boots on to make sure we didn’t have to undergo those fates that are worse than death.”
9.) “Charlie Kirk is in heaven because his Savior sacrificed himself for Charlie Kirk.”
10.) Pure religion and undefiled before our God and Father is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. James 1:27
I am persuaded that Stacey Sheridan’s speech at the Kirk extravaganza was the most revealing of the character of Charlie Kirk. Kirk cared for the widow and the orphan and he did so in the name of Jesus the Christ. More than anything else I’ve ever read, heard, or listened from Charlie Kirk the way he took care of Sheridan and her daughter impressed me the most and brought me to tears.
11.) “Charlie knew that the purpose of life was to know Christ and to make him known so as to populate heaven.”
Another great pithy and well put truth from Turek.
12.) Vance invoked the idea that Charlie was a combination of Athens and Jerusalem. Tertullian, the Early Church Father, asked long ago; “What has Athens to do with Jerusalem?” Vance invoked Socrates. No Christian salutes Socrates. J. D. Vance revealed his Roman Catholic slip.
13.) J. D. Vance kept insisting that “we are all children of God.” This idea was communicated by most of the speakers. This is the liberal idea of “the Fatherhood of God over all.”
14.) Generally speaking those considered the lesser lights speaking at the Kirk Extravaganza were far superior to those considered to be the greater lights. People like Sheridan, Turek, Carson, were far better than the luminaries.
15.) Interesting that FBI director Kashyap Pramod Vinod Patel did not speak at this extravaganza.
I think I will have one more entry here. I have yet to listen closely to both Trump’s meanderings and to Erica Kirk’s speech. I have listened to both but now closely.
One thing I find interesting in all this is all the hostility pointed in my direction for critiquing this Kirk extravaganza. It’s almost as if there is a certain (MAGA) portion of the population that finds anyone suspicious if they do anything except cheer mindlessly. This is exactly what the Horst Wessel effect produces.
Instead, we must keep our eyes upon Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy set before Him, despised the Cross, enduring the shame.
The Kirk Extravaganza…. Random Observations I
Who would have ever thought that 30+ million Americans would consume 5 hours of a memorial/political Extravaganza that was all about wrapping up the Republican party in the Christian flag with a Charlie Kirk bow on top?
Here are some of my off the cuff observations;
1.) There is no doubt that there was in that whole imbroglio Christian/Gospel truth spoken and for that we are thankful and rejoice. In Philippians 1 St. Paul could write from prison;
15 Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from goodwill: 16 The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains; 17 but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice.
So where Christianity/Gospel was proclaimed I join St. Paul in rejoicing.
2.) However, I also join St. Paul in understanding that, as it was in his time so it is in our time that people preach Christ from selfish ambition and not sincerely. Look, Politicians at this level are Lizard People. They do nothing that will not advance their agenda. They will say anything, do anything, feign anything to convince the citizenry that they belong to a noble race and only want to do what the citizenry wants them to do. Politicians, as Lizard People have zero compassion, zero genuineness, zero transparency, and zero sympathy. As Lizard People they are not like your average moral American citizen. They just are not.
Last night I saw a whole gaggle of Lizard people saying things that they would never say if it were not politically convenient for them to be saying such things. I would bet the farm that most of them had no idea what they were saying after they were done saying what they said. They had excellent speech writers who put the words in their mouths they needed to say. I mean … please … does anyone really buy the idea of Marco Rubio or Tulsi Gabbard as Christian Evangelist?
3.) I am old enough to remember all the faux religiosity (Christianity) following 9-11. Last night was a case of;
Second verse
Same as the first
A little bit louder
And a little bit worse
How many times does Lucy have to promise that “this time I am really really really going to hold that football so you can kick it through the goal post, Charlie Brown,” before we realize that Lucy is never going to hold that damn football so Charlie Brown can kick it?
4.) There are many Evangelicals and even Reformed who are insisting, “God is sending us Revival.” Maybe …. but I’d wait on publishing that until we begin to see;
a.) More and more Christians taking their children out of public schools
b.) Less and less aid being given to Israel – an enemy of Christ
c.) Fewer and Fewer Democrats and RINO’s being elected
d.) A significant drop in the violent crime rate
e.) The visible church doing a boatload of repenting and people leaving all kinds of churches because their former churches won’t repent
f.) Abortion being outlawed in all 50 states
g.) People embracing the time honored tradition of Christian Nationalism and the Ordo Amoris (as combined called Kinism).
h.) People raising the issue of returning to a time of blue laws on Sundays
i.) A Nation wide advocacy for the end of the Federal Reserve
j.) A Nation wide advocacy for the end of the Great Society programs
k.) A Nation wide advocacy for the reversal of the civil rights legislation
l.) A return to labeling LGBTQ etc. people as suffering from insanity
m.) An end to both legal and illegal immigration from 3rd world countries
n.) The forced expatriation of all illegal immigrants in these united States
o.) A return to a value backed currency
When these things begin to happen then you can talk to me about how Americans are going through revival/reformation. Until then it is just so much charismania emotionalism.
5.) You want me to believe that RFK Jr. after his life long whoremongering is now a virtuous man? You must be kidding … right?
6.) Honestly, at the end of the day all last night was, was one part Billy Graham crusade, one part Tim Keller-ism, one part Bill Hybel’s Church Growth program, one part Pentecostal “can’t you just feel the Spirit moving” Sunday morning church, and one part Jesus was a populist Republican.
7.) I am all for the left being destroyed. Having said that, I think Edward Bernays (one of the most famous Propagandists of the 20th century) would have been proud of the propaganda feast that was put on last night. For example, you don’t really think the Bagel Stephen Miller is a Christian convert do you?
8.) Just imagine how shattered and destroyed R2K fanboys are this morning. They had to endure 5 hours of Politicians getting out of their lanes and talking about Jesus Christ. Even if those politicians were not being sincere (and I don’t think they were) that event last night finds the R2K crowd suffering major migraines this morning. On the other hand, once last night is finally exposed for being the con it was, R2K is going to be able to point at that extravaganza and say, “I told you so.” Now, as usual R2K will be in error when they eventually say that because of the fact that they do not have the ability to realize that all because a nation’s leader’s wrap up a false Jesus in the American flag doesn’t mean we shouldn’t wrap up the true Jesus in the American flag.
9.) A clerg acquaintance of mine called my observations about last night as evidence of me being “a purist.” It wasn’t intended as a compliment.
Well, I think the only alternative to being a purist is being a impurist, or being a compromiser. So, I’ll go with being a purist along with the likes of the Apostle Paul, Athanasius, Chrysostom, Augustine, Gottschalk of Orbais, Hus, Luther, Calvin, Cromwell, Paisley, Knox, Goodman, Dabney, Machen, etc. There could be worse company to keep.
10.) The Influencer Jon Harris said of last night;
“Jesus doesn’t seem to be letting this country go.”
My response was to say that;
Just amazing because I look at what happened last night and conclude just exactly the opposite.
11.) What was that line from that “Revenge of the Sith” Star Wars movie?
They were deliriously applauding the Sith Emperor’s speech in the meeting of their legislature and Padme says;
"So this is how liberty dies; with thunderous applause."
12.) In Orwell’s novel, “1984,” the screens, or telescreens, (such as was seen last night at the Stadium and such as what people at home were viewing on) are a constant presence in the lives of Oceania’s citizens, blurring the line between public spectacle and private observation. People are not simply watching the screens; the screens are watching them. Honestly, I view last night as a case of public hypnotism. It was an event intended to provide a vast Republican narrative. If I were a Democrat this morning I’d be very fearful. Of course, I loathe Democrats and couldn’t care less if they’re fearful and if they are eventually totally diminished.
13.) I have to be honest… as I was sitting viewing this extravaganza I was thinking;
OK… Since Charlie Kirk is as esteemed as he is let it be known that not many clergy can make the claim I am about to make.
Both Bret L. McAtee and Charlie Kirk were together on the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) “hate” list.
If you want to hear Charlie Kirk’s social order beliefs preached then you’ll have to attend one of the very few Protestant Reformed Churches in the Nation that has as it’s Pastor a man who earned the same disgust as Charlie Kirk did as coming from the SPLC.
TPUSA and Charlotte Christ the King Reformed Church …. fighting the same battle and hated by the same demonic enemies.
If you loved Charlie you should love Bret.
14.) Not to belabor a previously made point but where were all these Christian magistrates 5 minutes ago? Last night was the first time I have ever heard of all this Christian faith being held by all these Christian speakers.
Man, these Dudes got themselves some religion and that almost instantly.
15.) Apparently most people aren’t aware when they are being manipulated.
16.) There are some who would insist that last night was an example of “Cultural Christianity.” Cultural Christianity is defined as that Christianity that impacts the culture from the residue of genuine Christianity but not so much that it is more than an inch deep in sincerity and reality.
I believe in Cultural Christianity. I believe it is far superior to Cultural non-Christianity. However, I see cultural Christianity as the cheap by product that arises when a genuine Christian foundation has been set. If there is no genuine Christian foundation than the resultant “Cultural Christianity” is going to be just as bad or worse than Cultural non-Christianity.
17.) Republicans also embrace the truth of “never let a crisis go to waste.”
18.) No Reformed person who understands their Confessions could ever find themselves getting excited about the kind of Christianity that is being pushed at the Kirk extravaganza. One has to ask which God… which Jesus Christ …which Christianity was being advocated?
Although Bishop Laud would be very excited about this Christianity from last night. Remember Bishop Laud? He was the Christian Bishop who supported persecuting the Puritans.
19.) “We want religion back in America.”
Kirk Extravaganza
Pray tell ….. which religion or just religion in general?
Trump’s statement reminds me of an old Eisenhower quote from when he was President;
“Our form of government has no sense unless it is founded in a deeply felt religious faith, and I don’t care what it is.”
20.) The Republican party is now the “Christian” party and the DEMS will have to run against “Christianity” in order to get elected.
John Locke’s Vision Of Religious Tolerance … McAtee’s Exposure Of Locke’s Error
A Letter Concerning Toleration
I think what we find above is what today is embraced by many who styles themselves as advocates of “Principled Pluralism.”
1.) These types of chaps are all for toleration and pluralism of religions in one social order as long as it principled and so reasonable. However, the minute one advocates for “principled pluralism,” and a “reasonable toleration,” one has rejected a pluralism that could include a religion that insists “Thou Shall Have No Other Gods Before Me,” for a religion that insists, “Thou Shall Have Other Gods Along With Me.” You see, the God of the Bible does not allow for “reasonable tolerance,” or for “principled pluralism,” because a reasonable tolerance does not allow for His intolerance and a principled pluralism does not have enough plurality in it to allow for a God who allows no plurality.
2.) Locke denies toleration to those who tolerate the denial of the being of God. Subsequently, Locke affirms that the public square can be flooded with all the gods of all those who affirm the being of God. Only atheists it seems, need not apply. The problem here is that the position of allowing all the gods in the public square is not a great deal different than allowing none of the gods in the public square. If all the gods are in then no God is really God and so the State is the only entity left who must decide how far any one of these different gods are allowed to go in the public square. In essence Locke’s position makes the state the God over the gods.
3.) Locke forbad the atheist from creating a system that forbad all religion but he ended up creating a system that likewise forbad all religion except the religion that had the State as its head, determining how far any one god or god could or could not go in the public square. This is where Locke’s system eventually led. Locke’s principled pluralism finally did what he feared the atheist would do … Locke’s principled pluralism destroyed all religion save the religion that announces that “in the state we live and move and have our being.” We live in the condition that Locked feared … “all is dissolved.”
4.) Locke, like many today, did not understand that religion is an inescapable category wherein one and only one religion must dominate. The religion that Locke bequeathed to us, through our Founders, is a religion wherein the God of the Bible is not allowed to be the sole God over the public square. Instead, Locked bequeathed to us a system where the State, acting as the god over all the gods in the tolerant public square, determines what is and is not allowed in terms of morality, religion, and law.
5.) It is true that the atheist can “have no pretence of religion whereupon to challenge the privilege of toleration,” but what Locke didn’t also see as true is that the principled pluralist can “have no pretence because of his tolerance principle whereupon to challenge the privilege of any god, from Allah to the Talmudist Demon God to Buddha to the Flying Spaghetti Monster God, to the God of the Mormons (much the same as the previous one mentioned) the privilege of toleration.” If all the gods are welcomed in then none of the gods are welcomed in. If all the gods are welcomed in then the state must be the GOD who rules over all the gods.
6.) In the last clause Locke basically says other religions can be allowed in a social order as long as they mind their own business. The problem here is that it is the very nature of religion to establish domination over others and so Locke is saying… “As long as other religions do not do what religions do they can be tolerated here.” That doesn’t strike me as a very good principle by which to support principled pluralism.
Principled pluralism was not a good principle even when the whole nation was still largely a nation consisting of squabbling protestant denominations (with Maryland as Roman Catholic and Rhode Island as Anabaptist) each seeking hegemony (Rhode Island finally won). It’s even a worse principle today when the whole “nation” consists of squabbling religions, the chief of which is the religion of no religion — those who call themselves “atheists,” or “no-religion.”
The Principled pluralism of Locke wanted a nation that allowed for tolerance and the presence of sundry expressions of Christianity. What it eventually birthed was a nation that has the presence of sundry religions with no tolerance for the one true religion of Christianity.