Durham, Cartwright, & Perkins — Contra R2Kt Virus

Job 31: 26; idolatry

” Vs. 26. // / have looked to the Sun, or moon, when they shined, and my heart hath been secretly enticed or my mouth hath kissed my hand. He gives two reasons why he would riot do this.

[1] Because it is a heinous sin; for as little as folks think of false worship or idolatry; yea, an iniquity to be punished by the judge. Job was not of their religion that plead for toleration. He knew that God’s law gave warrant to them then (and it gives also warrant to us now) to punish idolaters, and the judge ought to do it.”

James Durham 1622 – 1658, Lectures on Job. Edt. by C. Coldwell. (Dallas, Texas; Naphtali Press,1995) p.170.

Note that Durham declares the death penalty decreed by Deut.22:22 to be a moral law. 90 ibid., p. 172

Judicial Law and equity

” And, as for the judicial law, forasmuch as there are some of them made in regard of the region where they were given, and of the people to whom they were given, the prince and the magistrate, keeping the substance and equity of them ( as it were the marrow), may change the circumstance of them, as the times and places and manners of the people shall require. But to say that any magistrate can save the life of blasphemers contemptuous and stubborn idolaters, murderers, adulterers, incestuous persons, and such like, which God by his judicial law hath commanded to be put to death, I do utterly deny, and am ready to prove, if that pertained to this question “.

Thomas Cartwright 1535-1603

“SecondReply” 1575 cited in Worksof John Whitgift,1.270. ParkerSoc. 1851

Note in Cartwright’s quote he appeals to the idea of equity. This is important for many of the R2Kt virus types have suggested that general equity does not allow for the idea of taking the civil law in the OT and making it the norm for today’s magistrates. Cartwright would not have gone for that argument.

Example 3. Hee that blasphemeth the name of God, shall bee put to death, Leuv.24.16. Understand this law of manifest and notorious blasphemies, that pearce through God, as the words import: and then it is a maine fence to the third commaundement. For Gods name may in no wise be abused, and troad under foot: and therefore blasphemers pearcing God, are to be cut off. This is the very law of nature, as appeares by Nabuchadnezzar , who gave in commandement to his people, that whosoever blasphemed the name of the true God should be put to death, Dan.3.29. Here note, that manifest and convicted Atheists, if they bee put to death, have but their deserts.

William Perkins: A Commentarie upon the Epistle to the Galatians. Lon.1617 [ Pilgrim Press, 1989] pp. 202-204.

Note that Perkins connects the first table with the second table all caught up in the ‘very law of nature.’ Even were Perkins to have taught Natural Law he would have insisted that both tables are proclaimed in Natural law and that the magistrate is responsible to enforce both tables.

17th Century Scottish Magistrates Understood Something 21st Century R2Kt Virus Types Don’t Understand

Parliament of Scotland

[21. Act aginst the Crime of Blasphemy].

” OUR Soveraign Lord, and the Estates of Parliament considering that hitherto there hath been no Law in this Kingdom, against the horrible crime of Blasphemy, Therefore, His Majestie, with advice of His said Estates, Doth hereby Statute and Ordain. That whosoever hereafter, not being distracted in his wits, shall rail upon, or curse GOD, or any of the Persons of the blessed Trinity, shal be processed before the chief Justice; and being fpund guilty, shall be punished with Death.”

THE LAWS and ACTS Made in the FIRST PARLIAMENT of Our most High and Dread Soveraign, CHARLES THE SECOND, etc. Holden at Edinburgh the first of January, 1661 etc. Edin 1683. no page numbers

A Solemn Testimony Against Toleration, etc. By the Commissioners of the General Assembly 1649

[Punishment of idolaters capital; perpetuity of this law].

“As the Lord by his servant Moses, in the xviiith of Deuteronomy, requires of him that shall reign over his people, that he have a copy of the law of the Lord by him, and that he read therein all the days of his life, that he may learn to fear the Lord his God, and to keep all the words of that law; so in the xiiith of that book he gives a command to put to death the false prophe, and the brother that speaks to his people to turn them away from the Lord their God; and the reasons taken from the nature of the duty, whereby he persuades unto the obedience thereof, are perpetual and no less binding unto us now, than to them of old.”

Reprinted in Faithful Witness-Bearing Exemplified: Kilmarnock1783. p. 74.

Ussher Makes R2Kt House Fall

Thus Ussher distinguishes

“two distinct powers established by God in these lands, one of which is of the keys committed to the church, the other of the sword entrusted to the civil magistrate; the former ordained to operate about the internal man, having an immediate relation to the remission and retention of sins; the latter ordained to operate about the external man, affording protection to the obedient, and inflicting external punishments upon the rebellious”

A Speech Delivered in the Castle-Chamber at Dublin the xxii of November, Anno 1622, pp.304

Although in this way we make the prince and priest guardians of both tables, and although the matter about which they exercise their office can be the same, still the form and mode of governing in it is distinct in every way. One extends itself only to the external man, the other to the internal; one binds or looses the soul; the other attends to the body and things pertaining to it; one has a special regard to the judgment of the future world, the other refers to the present retention or privation of some of the conveniences of this life.

ibid., p. 6

James Ussher – Archbishop of Armagh (1580-1655) in a speech published with a controversial work against the Jesuit, Hybernus, defends the oath of fidelity which declared the king to be the sole supreme governor in the kingdom.

Both citations as found in Francis Turretin’s Institutes of Elenctic Theology, Vol. III, p. 322-323

Rapid Fire Quotes That Kills The R2Kt Virus From Several Lesser Known Reformed Assasins

“Almost all of our men are of this opinion, that heretics should be punished with the sword.”

Buggsy Zanchius

“De Magistratu,” Operum Theologicorum [1613][Miscellaneorum], 7:166-88

Cited in Turretin Vol. III, p. 334

“Is it lawful for the magistrate to proceed against heretics with the sword?” He answers affirmatively

Machine Gun Bucanus

Institutes of Christian Religion 49 [1606],

p. 874 cited in Turretin, Vol. III pg. 334

“It is not a question concerning the seditious, blasphemous, heretics, who besides the propagation of false doctrine, excite sedition in addition, instigate subjects against magistrates and utter direct and open blasphemies against God; for that they can be capitally punished on account of sedition and blasphemies we do not wholly controvert.”

Locus 24.317, “De Magistratu Politici,” Loci Theologici [1868], 6:446

“No one of us denies that pertinacious heretics can be excommunicated, no one hinders the punishment of seditious heretics, disturbers of the public peace, with the sword.”

Baby Face Gerhard

Locus 24.355, ibid. , 6:470

Both cited in Turretin, Vol. III p. 334

Fisking The OPC On Church Endorsements

Recently one of the readers of this blog brought the following article to my attention and suggested that I should comment on this article. The article can be located at http://opc.org/qa.html?question_id=318

The person who wrote this article for the OPC question and answer format is anonymous.

Will the OPC Endorse a Particular Presidential Candidate?

Question:

Will the OPC endorse a particular candidate for President of the United States? Have individual OP congregations endorsed particular candidates?

Answer:

Greetings in Jesus Christ our Lord and only Savior.

Regarding the first question, the Orthodox Presbyterian Church does not endorse candidates for public office and that for at least three reasons. In what follows, nothing is to be construed as in any way limiting the responsibility of Christians—pastors and congregants—to be good citizens, from supporting their choice of candidate, and from voting according to their conscience. The only application is to the Church as a body, speaking representatively through its leadership, session, presbytery, and general assembly.

1.) I’m don’t think it is necessary for denominations or congregations to endorse particular candidates. Such a move would never be necessary as long as denominations and Churches were speaking the revealed mind of God on the issues which the Scripture explicitly speak. For example, in this election cycle there would not be any need to tell people not to vote for John McCain or Barack Hussein Obama if God’s people were taught well on the first commandment, sixth commandment, and eighth commandment to name only a few.

2.)This takes us to the issue where it is said that people should not be kept “from supporting their choice of candidate, and from voting according to their conscience.” Well certainly people shouldn’t be kept from supporting their choice of candidate and from voting according to their conscience so long as their choice of candidate and their vote cast according to their conscience aren’t pursuing an agenda that is set in utter contrast to the explicit teaching of Scripture. While the Church may not explicitly say, “y’all go out and vote for (fill in the blank)” it should be able to explicitly speak to issues that Scripture speaks to and then conclude by saying…”It would be Biblically wrong to support candidates who care not for what God’s Word reveals.”

3.) Note that the idea above is that individual Christians can support who they will but the Church as the Church is restricted on what it can say except in a very circumscribed way. This communicates that God is agnostic about candidates who desire to rule in a way contrary to his revealed word. The Church ought to be able to flatly say, “since God’s Word prohibits Murder it would be sin to vote for the lead Donkey, or, since God’s Word prohibits theft it would be sin to vote for the lead Elephant.

Note also that this latter statement is not to be construed as limiting the judicatories of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church from responding to political issues, e.g., the OPC has taken a position regarding Abortion and Women in the Military. These issues, however, focus on ethics rather than politics. Speaking out on issues like these may be construed as the Church fulfilling its prophetic purpose.

First, this part of the OPC answer is a bit confusing. On one hand the writer says that the judicatories of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church are not to be limited from responding to political issues but on the other hand the writer seems to suggest that the judicatories of the OPC are better served to focus on ethic rather than politics. This sounds like a creeping contradiction.

Further, it seems inconsistent to say that the Church judicatories can speak to particular ethical issues that are front and center in the political realm but it can’t speak officially, as the Church, on candidates who embrace those issues that the Church has prophetically condemned. Maybe the Church as the Church doesn’t want to officially endorse any one candidate but it seems that it should be able to officially speak as to who absolutely isn’t endorsed due to certain candidates embracing positions that the Church has officially prophetically spoken against.

By the way if the Church judicatories of the OPC were to take its own prophetic pronouncements on abortion and Women in the military seriously they would come out and explicitly say as the Church, “We must recommend, in light of God’s explicit teaching on abortion and Women in the military, that our people not vote for the lead Donkey or the lead Elephant. A refusal to do that reveals how shallow the OPC’s prophetic pronouncements really are.

Therefore, this response is directed narrowly to the specific question: Will the OPC endorse a particular candidate for President of the United States? The following attempts to explain why not.

First, the Church’s purpose suggests that she not be side-tracked into the political arena. Christ calls the church to proclaim the gospel to the entire world (Mark 14:9; Acts 1:8). The gospel proclaims that all have sinned and fall short of God’s glory (Romans 3:23), which leaves people dead in trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1f). The only way that any person can have the enmity between himself and God removed is through the finished work of Christ on the cross (Ephesians 2:8-10; Romans 5:1f).

The Church applying God’s word to the political arena does not make for a ‘side-tracked’ church anymore then prophetically applying God’s word in the ethical arena makes for a side-tracked church. When the Church does speak to the political arena she should speak salvifically. Any prophetic voice into that realm should be finished by reminding those in the Political realm that not only should they repent of their sinful agenda but they should embrace Christ who alone can save them from their sins. In short speaking into the political arena doesn’t mean that we quit speaking the Gospel of the Christ who offers Himself as the salvation of the World.

To complain about getting side tracked by speaking to the political realm just sounds like a clever way to avoid speaking to one place that desperately needs the Gospel proclaimed in all of its saving authority.

The church’s purpose or goal is realized in its practices. These practices are expressed in the liturgy of the church as she gathers together to worship. For example, God’s call to worship instructs the people of God to be hospitable and welcome all who come. This hospitality includes, but is not limited to, time in worship; it extends to individual homes.

I’m not sure what the point here is unless it is to subtly suggest that we don’t want to bring up issues that will keep people from visiting our hospitable Churches. Is the point here that we should welcome all who come including those who vote for baby murderers and people who vote for our women to be in foxholes? Now certainly, we we do want to welcome all people but not at the price of suggesting that God welcomes people into His Kingdom who will not repent of disobedience.

The church’s confession instructs the congregation in another allegiance. We are not a nation under God. Rather we are a citizenship of heaven gathered together to glorify and enjoy the Triune God. Our confession of sin calls us to reconciliation and peace by confessing our own sins and seeking forgiveness for our wrongs. God’s kingdom, His politic is what is being gathered together for the practices of that kingdom. The state politic has none of this in mind.

It is true that our citizenship is in heaven but it is also true that we are to be salt and light in this world. Salt is a preservative and the Church refuse to do its job as salt what good is it except to be cast out and trodden upon? The quote above sounds as if the Kingdom of God is restricted to the Holy Huddle that occurs on Sunday in Worship. It is true that the state politic has none of what he speaks of above in mind and its also true that it never will as long as the Church doesn’t seek to take the aroma of the Gospel into the public sphere.

It is good for the church to gather under God’s politic to be reminded of our sin and of our reconciliation and forgiveness. It is good to be reminded that nothing can remove us from God’s Kingdom. But we would go on to say that it is good to be taught that we disburse from Worship with the purpose of making God’s Kingdom known so that it overcomes the Kingdoms of this World.

Therefore, to endorse a candidate for president and all that would involve would be to take the church’s attention off of the kingdom of which it is a part and put it on a kingdom that is passing away…

Again, the Church doesn’t have to endorse a candidate for president without having a word for God’s people during this election cycle.

Second, there seems to be an assumption here that God has no interest in seeing the public sphere come to know the fullness of His joy by being in league with Him. There seems to be an assumption that the World is an evil sphere that God has no interest in. Certainly the Church shouldn’t become a political institution but in order for it to be as Spiritual as it is called to be it must pronounce the Kingship of the Lord Jesus over every area of life.

Ee need to keep in mind that the Scriptures teach that the Kings are to “Kiss the Son lest He be angry and they perish in the way.”

Second, the authority to bind conscience is limited to the revealed Word of God. The Scripture calls all men to repentance and faith in Jesus Christ. Because God speaks in and through His Word, that Word is authoritative and people are conscience bound to submit to that Word. Granted, not all men do. However the Church, because it declares and proclaims God’s holy Word may command men to repent and believe. The authority is not ours; it is God’s speaking in and through His Word.

Yes, and all of that applies to the political realm. Even politicians are conscience bound to submit to the Word. Even politicians are called to repentance and faith in Jesus Christ. Even politicians must know that God’s Word is authoritative.

Second, while the authority to bind the conscience is limited to the revealed Word of God, the judicatories of the OPC has, in keeping with the Word of God, bound consciences of its people by speaking on abortion and women in the military. On that basis alone the OPC judicatories ought to be able to say, just on the basis of those two actions, that the lead Donkey and the lead Elephant cannot be voted for by Christian people.

The ground on which the Church can rightly speak is on the clear declaration of the Bible. The Bible does not command us to vote for any particular candidate; therefore, the Church can not declare any candidate to be “God’s choice” in an election.

Maybe it cannot declare any candidate to be “God’s choice” but it can declare which candidates are not “God’s choice.”

However, in any case, the conscience could not be bound by God’s Word, because God’s Word is not about the kingdom of this world but the kingdom of God.

If the OPC really believed this then they wouldn’t have spoken to abortion or women in military since those issues, by this reasoning, are about the kingdom of this world.

Again, not the dualism between God’s Kingdom and the kingdom of this world as if the age to come, which has already triumphed in Christ isn’t to overcome this present wicked age.

Third, the practice would lead to a disruption of the peace and unity of the church. It is unlikely that any particular church would agree to endorse a candidate for the office of president. To get an entire denomination to endorse a candidate is even further removed. Doing such would divide congregations and lead to church splits. Therefore, the peace and unity of the church would be disrupted, which is contrary to God’s holy Word. For a church to have divisions over that which the Bible teaches is regrettable enough, but at least the issue at stake is truth. However, to have the church divided over that which is not biblical is unconscionable.

Here is what I suspect is what is really behind all the rest of the smoke. This sounds like, “If we endorsed a candidate we would lose people. As such, we allow our people to vote for socialists, communists, Republicans, Libertarians, Democrats, or Constitutionalists. They can vote for whoever they want because if we started speaking God’s mind on the issues then our attendance would suffer.” Hence, the peace and unity of the Church is pursued at the cost of God’s revealed Word. We don’t care if they vote for abortionist candidates (in violation of the sixth commandment), wealth redistributionist candidates (in violation of the eight commandment), or the divine state candidates (in violation of the first commandment) so long as they don’t leave our churches.

I hope that this has helped somewhat. The same question will evoke various responses from other respondents. However, many years ago, the OPC faced the question of involvement in the political process. Some people left our fellowship over this issue, but the Church has always been clear: we have not been called to the political arena of this world; we have, however, been called to the political arena of God’s kingdom.

Does the political arena of God’s Kingdom not overturn the political arenas of this world?