Jon Harris & Rev. Larry Ball Discuss Race … McAtee Chimes In

Over here there is a podcast I recommend cautiously;

(17) Critical Race Theory and The Church with Pastor Larry Ball – YouTube

Rev. Ball and Jon Harris are inching closer and closer to getting the whole issue of what makes men of different families, tribes, nations, and races to differ. Much of what they say is laudatory and should be listened to. However, I still am convinced that they are selling short the very real genetic differences God has ordained for the people. You listen to it and tell me if I am wrong.

It seems to me that they keep wanting to delete the genetic aspect of our differences. It is certainly true that Kinism is not only about accepting genetic realities. We wholeheartedly  embrace the idea of grace as a reason that one race differs from another. (This is Rev. Ball’s argument as I understood it). However, one can’t deny that grace also includes giving one race the genetic inheritance (strengths and weaknesses) they have while another race doesn’t receive the same gift or the same limitations. This is no different than the parable of the talents where the Master gives out 5, 3, and 1 talent to three different servants (Mt. 25:14-30). God gives out the different genetic information to different races and that can be used for God’s glory or it can be used to the end of evil. (Compare the glorious Christendom of White nations vs. the two wicked World Wars between white nations.)

In terms of genetics impacting differences keep in mind that if a person of a particular race and ethnicity is graciously saved that salvation does not add IQ points to the person saved. No… IQ points is a genetic reality that won’t change much with conversion. Now, it certainly would be the case that the saved person is going to make better decisions about marriage partners and by those better decisions over the generations, upon the family as a whole becoming Christian, there is going to be an uptick of IQ points but that uptick will be present in each generation for each different family of a different race so that the delta between one saved people group is going to remain the same for a different ethnic group that is also visited with salvation. IQ is just an example. Other examples could be as easily adduced.

There is nothing wrong or racist about observing reality and so believing all this. With this explanation one is still affirming that the differences between races among the human race just as the difference among families in a ethnic group is all of grace. God decreed that the races would each be differently gifted with different limitations just as he decreed that different families existing within one race would each have differing strengths and limitations.

All that to say that the IQ of the average Oriental (saved or unsaved) is always going to be higher than the average IQ of the average Occidental (white). On the other hand the Occidental is superior in creativity than the Oriental on the whole. Yes … there are studies on all this. One you might want to check out is “The Bell Curve,” by Charles Murray.

So, while grace in conversion is certainly a differentiating factor when it comes to these matters, it simply is never going to be the case that redemptive grace is going to change the genetics that God’s creational grace gave to differing peoples, nations, families, and races to begin with. The Occidental will never, on average, have the IQ average that the Oriental has, though the Occidental will improve on this score if converted as a result of the impact of better marriage choices made over generations by members of Christian families.

It is the refusal to see that God determined genetics, as appointed to the differing races, nations, tribes, and families does impact our reality and that creational grace is not going to be changed by conversion, though conversion does give men from different races a common spiritual bond in Christ. However, that common spiritual bond still should not be translated as a reason why we can ignore the boundaries of race that God has appointed and so marry inter-racially, just as one does not reason that a 85 year old widow from Japan should marry a 18 year old male from the Ndebele people simply because they are both converts to Christianity. These things used to be so obvious before 1950 or so that following the maxim of St. Vincent of Lérins it was one of those  things that by the consent of those who at diverse times and in different places remained steadfast in the unanimity of the universal Christian faith. Now, because of the influence of Cultural Marxism on the Church St. Vincent of Lérins goes a beggaring.

I don’t know how I can explain it any more clearly. When it comes to racial differences among men it is the case that both genetics and personal belief about the nature of reality creates both individuals, people groups, and races and in turn individuals, people groups, and races create cultures, with the culture then retro-conditioning the beliefs of individuals and people groups. It is only salvific grace that can break the cycle of wrong beliefs that in turn will then change over the course of time both genetics and culture.

The R2K Chronicles #2 — Dualism as the Hyphenated Life

Webster’s dictionary defines dualism simply as;

 a doctrine that the universe is under the dominion of two opposing principles one of which is good and the other evil.

This definition can be found among hard Anabaptists who compartmentalized life into the separated Anabaptist community and the evil world. Dr. Herman Bavinck gives a quick low down on Anabaptist dualism.

“Anabaptism proceeded from the premise of an absolute antithesis between creation and re-creation, nature and grace, the world and the kingdom of God, and therefore viewed believers as persons who in being born again had become something totally different and therefore had to live in separation from the world. Its program was not reformation but separation: Anabaptism wanted a separated church. For centuries [they said] there had been no church but only Babel, and Babel had to be abandoned and shunned. In Munster it was said that there had been no true Christian in 1,400 years. The true church was a church of saints who, after making a personal profession of faith, were baptized, and who distinguished themselves from others by abstaining from oaths, war, government office, and a wide assortment of worldly practices in food and drink, clothing, and social contact”
 
Herman Bavinck
Reformed Dogmatics — vol. IV — pg. 292

Radical Two Kingdom Theology (R2K) is not straight up Anabaptist in its dualism. Instead R2K goes all linguistically clever and replaces the Anabaptist notion of a “evil” world with a “common” world. The results is that a nature/grace dualism is still embraced by R2K with the difference being, per their attestation, that the “world” is not “evil” but “common.” We will examine that attestation eventually.

That R2K makes this move to dualism is seen in the words of R2K devotee Dr. D. G. Hart;

“After examining myself and studying historical subjects I am not so convinced that religion is so basic to a person’s identity….
 
In other words, life as a Christian is complicated. The best word to describe that is one that the intellectual historian, David Hollinger, coined in his book “Post-ethnic America” — hyphenation. To recognize that people (even Christians) are a mix of different responsibilities and loyalties is to admit that ‘most individuals live in many circles simultaneously and that the actual living of any individual life entails a shifting division of labor between the several ‘we’s’ of which the individual is part.’”…

It strikes me that admitting this complicated outlook is basic to being human as opposed to living up to some sort of super-spiritual ideal of a life dedicated and consecrated to Christ 24/7.

 
Dr. D. G. Hart

Hyphenated Greetings

1.) In this quote Dr. Hart demonstrates, once again, how his religion bleeds into his identity. His religious conviction is that religion is not so basic to a person identity. Now, inasmuch as that statement is a religious conviction that statement of his religious conviction creates for him his “hyphenated life,” where there are official zones where religious impact must be considered and official zones were religion must not be considered. But, make no mistake, it is his religion of compartmentalized religion that is basic to Darryl’s identity. His whole reason for existence is characterized by his zeal for his religion.

2.) The implication of Hart’s last sentence above is that there are some areas where the Christian individual must consider Christ and other areas where the Christian individual can dispatch with considering Christ. For example, according to Darryl, why should a Christian have to consider Christ when he is cheering for the Detroit Tigers at a Tigers ballgame? I suppose this means that when Darryl attends a Tigers game he can scream invective at the Umpires for bad calls since that is part of the ballgame. After all … it is a hyphenated life and what does Christ have to do with rooting as a fan at Tigers games?

3.) It is true that Christians have many roles in life but to suggest that any of those roles can be taken up apart from consideration of Christ is just not Biblical.

Hart is not unusual in this advocacy for the “hyphenated life” (i.e. — Dualism). R2K “theologians” routinely speak of the realm of grace (church) and the realm of nature (common).

“Traditional marriage is part of the created order that God sustains through his common grace, not a uniquely Christian institution, and society as a whole suffers when it is not honored. Christians are responsible to commend the goodness and benefits of marriage in the public square…. To call attention to that evidence in the public square is a way of communicating that marriage is not a uniquely Christian thing, but a human thing, and that all people have an interest in getting marriage policy correct.”
 
~ David Van Drunen
Chief of the R2K Tribe

The careful reader here will easily spot the dualism in Van Drunen’s above words. Traditional marriage exists in the common realm and not in the realm of grace. This is Van Drunen’s version of Hart’s “hyphenated life.”

There are several problems here before we even get to passages like Ephesians 5

1.) How do we know what “Traditional” is in “Traditional Marriage.” It simply is the case that in order to get to Traditional Marriage you need Christian categories to begin with. One can’t get to Christian categories without the Scriptures. Therefore the common in R2K’s “common realm” is only common as common secures its definition from the realm of grace, and if that is true the common realm is not a distinct realm from the realm of grace.

2.) There is an appeal here by Van Drunen to a “Human thing.” And yet, apart from Scripture how do we know what it means to be Human? In point of fact I would contend that those who are outside of Christ are doing all they can to put off genuine humanness in favor of putting on beastliness. Man loses his manishness the further he goes in sin. So, all appeals to a “human thing” are question begging if we can only consistently determine what Human is using Christian categories.

3.) The fact that pagans embrace marriage has more to do with their being inconsistent with their own Christ hating presuppositions than it has to do with “being human.” Would Lamech have denied he was being “Human” when he took two wives? Does Justice Anthony Kennedy (he who penned the Majority opinion in the overturning of DOMA) believe that sodomites are less human for being coupled?

4.) The very fact that we are moving in the opposite direction regarding “getting marriage policy correct,” (i.e. — sodomite marriage) is evidence that all people do not have an interest in getting marriage policy correct. And what of this idea of getting marriage policy correct? Correct by whose or what standard?

5.) It is true that marriage is a creational institution but the mistake here on VD’s part is forgetting that grace restores nature. Creation itself has fallen and part of the effect of redemption is to restore creation to its original design. Redemption does so by leaving creational creational while at the same time restoring creational to what it would be minus sin.

Of course all this explains why recently well known Westminster California Seminary Professors have suggested that they could accept sodomite civil marriage. If marriage belongs to the Creational realm — a realm that is completely compartmentalized from the Redemptive realm –then why should the Church pronounce on it?

So, we have established that R2k with its common realm vs. grace realm are practitioners of dualism. R2K creates two airtight compartmentalized realms (grace vs. nature) and then tells Christians to “go live the hyphenated life,” communicating that there is an inherent dichotomy to living as a Christian.

Now to add to this we have the proof for R2K dualism from the mouth of their chief prophet;

“Since membership in the civil kingdom is not limited to believers, the imperatives of Scripture do not bind members of that kingdom. These imperatives are not “directly applicable to non-Christians” (40).”

David Van Drunen, “
A Biblical Case for Natural Law,” p.40.

“Scripture is not given as a common moral standard that provides ethical imperatives to all people regardless of their religious standing.”

David Van Drunen
“A Biblical Case for Natural Law”, (p. 53)

So, we see that in the common realm there is different set of imperatives (Thou Shalts) that exist for the unregenerate than the Thou Shalts that we find in God’s Law-Word and so are applicable for the regenerate living in the grace realm. This is straight up dualism. This is Hart’s “hyphenated-life.”

And if any doubt still exists about the dualism of R2K we offer;

Generally speaking, believers are not to seek an objectively unique Christian way of pursuing cultural activities.

David Van Drunen
God’s Two Kingdoms, pg. 168

The reason Christians are not to seek an objectively unique Christian way of pursuing cultural activities is because culture lies in the common realm and by definition culture cannot be Christian. Being uniquely Christian seeking the uniquely Christian way of pursuing culture can only be found when in the grace realm (Church).

Note what Van Drunen is saying is that the objectively unique R2K Christian way of pursuing cultural activities is to not seek an objectively unique non-R2K Christian way of pursuing cultural activities.

Then there is this dualism gem from the guru of Escondido;

“Our earthly bodies are the only part of the present world that Scripture says will be transformed and taken up into the world-to-come. Believers themselves are the point of continuity between this creation and the new creation.” 

David Van Drunen
Living in God’s Two Kingdoms — p. 66

This R2K declamation despite God’s testimony that in the New Jerusalem;

Revelation 21:26 The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it.

The Dualism is seen in the fact that everything in R2K’s common realm belongs to such a realm of discontinuity that it cannot enter into the grace realm that will be found as fulfilled in the New Jerusalem. Two realms. Two realities. Dualism.

This brings us to the inevitable conclusion that R2K is inherently Gnostic. For R2K those realities that exist in the common realm are not as important as those realities that exist in the grace realm. We see that this is true if only we find it the case that nothing from the common realm is important enough to enter the eschaton — the fulfillment of the current grace realm. Nothing else from the common realm can be glorified and so enter the new Jerusalem.

This brings us back to the observation made earlier in the chapter that R2K is guilty of linguistic deception when it tags the things of this world as “common” as opposed to the more stringent label of evil as labeled by the Anabaptists. It seems the difference here is that for Anabaptists that which is evil can’t be common for the Anabaptist faithful, whereas that which is evil can be common for the R2K faithful. In both cases there is a whole realm wherein no redemption is possible and wherein there is no possibility wherein grace could restore nature. For R2K like the Anabaptists grace does not restore nature. So, what is the difference between the dualism of Anabaptists and the R2K? Anabaptists call the nature realm “evil” and insist that their acolytes can’t participate in it whereas R2K call the nature realm “common” and insist that their acolytes can participate in it as long as they don’t participate in it in a “uniquely Christian fashion.” Color me disappointed if that doesn’t strike anybody else as odd beyond all expression.

I’m not the only one who has made the observation about R2K being cloaked dualsim.

“I intend to show in the present book that (R)2K theology is a kind of neo-Scholasticism … Of course, someone like Van Drunen is aware of the accusation of scholasticism… (Joe) Boot has wondered whether Van Drunen imbibed scholasticism at Loyola University, a Private Roman Catholic university in Chicago… Van Drunen is aware of the accusation of scholasticism… he hardly enters into the factual question: Is (R)2K nothing but a variety of this nature-grace dualism and might this be a problem.”

Willem J. Ouweneel
The World is Christ’s: A Critique of (Radical) Two Kingdom’s Theology — pg. 6-7

There is another thing that should be said about the dualism of R2K and that is that they need another realm. R2K gives us the realm of nature (common) and grace (church). Those are it’s “two kingdoms.” However R2K’s dualistic two Kingdoms does not account for a third Kingdom that needs accounting for.

What about “this present wicked age?” Where is the Devil’s Kingdom located in all of this R2K “theology?” Certainly Christ’s Kingdom in the Church is not the Devil’s Kingdom. And certainly neither Dr. Van Drunen or his main disciple Dr. Hart would posit that the Devil’s Kingdom equals the common realm for that would be classic Anabaptist doctrine. So where exactly do our twin spin Doctors put the Devil’s Kingdom? Non R2K minds want to know.

 

Fandom

How much difference is there between the ancient Romans packing out the Coliseum in order to cheer on the barbarity of the Gladiator games, or the gruesomeness of the sacrifice of Christians to the wild beasts or the spectacle of some plotted warrior game conflict and our current viewing via CNN or some other networks coverage of the death and mayhem of war? In both cases there is suspense, cheering for the “good guys,” and hissing the “bad guys.” In both cases people are living vicariously through their chosen champion/avatar.

We are at bread and circuses once again.

We find here something that is now referred to as “Fandom.” Fandom is the creation of an alternative reality that every one who participates therein knows is fake and yet invests that alternative reality with ontological being so that even though they know it is fake on one level, on the level that counts they are living as if that reality is true.

Example — The attendants upon the Roman games know that real battle is not happening in the coliseum. People knew it as “the games,” but because of the drama that it added to their lives they gave those “games” “real” existence so as to find meaning, purpose, and entertainment in their lives.

Example — The Wuhan scare was successful because of Fandom. People knew it was fake but because of the drama that it added to their lives they gave that fake existence being so as to find meaning, purpose and entertainment in life.

Series On Justification From Eternity — Part V

Secondly, Justification is not only before faith, but it is from eternity, being an immanent act in the divine mind, and so an internal and eternal one; as may be concluded,

  1. From eternal election: the objects of justification are God’s elect; “Who shall lay anything to the charge of God’s elect? it is God that justifies”; that is, the elect. Now if God’s elect, as such, can have nothing laid to their charge; but are by God acquitted, discharged, and justified; and if they bore this character of elect from eternity, or were chosen in Christ before the world began; then they must be acquitted, discharged and justified so early, so as nothing could be laid to their charge: besides, by electing grace men were put into Christ, and were considered as in him before the foundation of the world; and if they were considered as in him, they must be considered as righteous or unrighteous; not surely as unrighteous, unjustified, and in a state of condemnation; for “there is no condemnation to them which are in Christ”, #Ro 8:1 and therefore must be considered as righteous, and so justified: “Justified then we were, says Dr. Thomas Goodwin {13 — Vol. 9 works} when first elected, though not in our own persons, yet in our Head, as he had our persons then given him, and we came to have a being and an interest in him.”

    Dr. John Gill
    18th Century Baptist Minister

     

    Continuing this line of reasoning and expanding upon it;Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved.

     

    Here St. Paul clearly writes that we were chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world. This is the same “before the foundation of the world” that St. John speaks of Christ wherein having been slain (Rev. 13:8). It was before the foundation of the world that the elect were chosen to be holy and without blame before in love. It is not possible to be holy and without blame before God apart from Justification. Therefore we can only conclude that Justification is from eternity. 

    1PE 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied…. 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 

    You see this eternal aspect here don’t you? St. Peter in vs. 2 is connecting the election of the saints to the blood/work of Jesus Christ. Then the elect are picked up in vs. 19 where Peter speaks of the blood/work of Christ as being foreordained before the foundation of the world, and then connects that foreordained work of Christ with its manifestation in these last times. These last times that Peter speaks of occurred in the 1st century with Christ’s crucifixion. There is a clear connection made by Peter between being elect according to the foreknowledge of God (from all eternity), the sprinkling of the blood of Jesus (which justifies), and the foreordination of all this before the foundation of the world.As the elect were in Christ from the foundation of the world they were in Christ as righteous in the mind of God. The elect were from the foundation of the world justified in the lamb who was slain from the foundation of the world. Further, were God in time to change His disposition upon the elect from wrath to love there would be mutability in God and the attribute of immutability would be lost. God would be seen to be as in process instead of being the eternal I am.

     

     

The European War & The Great Reset


” It is simply not true that my administration or policies are holding back energy production. That is simply not true.”

Joe Bite-Me
Pervert in Chief

“Agenda 2030 – 2050 goal of “Absolute Zero” comes at the hands of this Ukraine-Russia conflict. At least this is an initiation into a new era of (mostly) artificially created shortages. This is not an accidental, unwanted consequence, this is part of “the plan” and a desired outcome to achieve the Great Reset and the Great Culling. They will need to grind civilization more or less to a halt to achieve it.

 
 
This war and the sanction will lead to rising energy costs, fertilizer shortages, food shortages and more supply chain disruptions.

There are things that could be done to increase oil and gas output for one (in the US alone) but as you can see from Biden’s latest statement they will play helpless and pretend there are no solutions.

US Energy Secretary Granholm recently stated that any rising costs in oil and gas is basically good because “we want to do away with it” anyway to “save” the earth from dangerous Co2 but what is going to replace it?”
 
 
Henrik Palmgren
Red Ice TV
 
All of this also serves the Great Reset / Agenda 2030 purpose of;
 
1.) Channeling people into urban areas and out of rural areas. Having increasing numbers of people all living in concentrated urban areas allows the NWO FEDS to more easily control people. This is a long-stated goal of Agenda 2030.

 
 
2.) Pursuing the Green New Deal. The diminishing of access to carbon-based fuels means alternative fuels will sought to be accessed. This will fail, at least in the short term as nothing exists currently that can replace carbon based fuels except possibly nuclear energy but that has long been ruled out in the states. This, of course, in theory, lessons the carbon footprint which the left lunatics have all been “concerned with” since Al Gore spoke about the dangers of carbon fuel as he jetted around the globe back in the early 1990’s.
 

3.) Creating mass transit alternatives. This has also been a stated goal of Agenda 2030. The goal is to check people’s independence by taking their automobiles from them and replacing the automobiles with public mass transit. Once again, this serves the purpose of the NWO FEDS being able to more easily control people.

 

4.) Keep in mind also that with the diminution of fossil fuel usage the consequence will be a lessening of average lifespans in the West. There is a correlation between lack of energy access and the brutality of life that in turn leads to abbreviated life spans. Not only the quality of life will diminish but so also with be the length of the average life span. If Agenda 2030 continues to be successful in the West your children’s quality of life will be significantly downgraded from the quality of life that you knew.