Rocky Mountain Pastor Shows Immediate Enmity to Biblical Christianity

“R2K is a name given by the reconstructionist of the tradition. I hold classical confessional Reformed theology. So, “yes,” I would agree with David Van Drunen because he agrees with the tradition which agrees with classical theism and classical Christ and culture distinctions. Theonomists of all stripes, Wilsonites, and their ilk with their FV, paedocommunion, Kinism, antebellum flavoring are all un-confessional. Just follow the confessions and you will be safe. Don’t follow men. Follow the Reformed Church. Our church basically opposes all things CREC.”

United Reformed Church Pastor

Rocky Mountain States

1.) R2K is a name given by people who are orthodox in their theology unlike this chap and all R2K fan boys.

2.) David Van Drunen is at the very least heterodox and for my money is a heretic. He most certainly does not agree with classical confessional theology and neither does he rightly navigate Christ and culture distinctions.

3.) Wilsonites are Kinists? LOL … Someone tell Doug Wilson he is being accused of being a kinist. This accusation alone proves that this clergy is an absolute dolt. Everybody in the world except this guy knows that Wilson hates him some kinists. So, if the Pastor Chowderhead is so incredibly wrong about Wilson on this score how much more is he wrong on anything else he says?

4.) Not all theonomists are Federal Visionists which has been demonstrated repeatedly with well known theonomists even writing books condemning Federal Vision. This is Pastor Numbchucks going all red herring.

5.) Just follow the confessions and you will be theonomist and kinist. See Martin Foulner’s little book, “Theonmy and the Westminster Confession.”

6.) Follow the Reformed Church?

You mean the one which can’t discipline pastors who shout before God and men that they are attracted to other men (PCA)? You mean the one which is sore afraid of the charge of “racism” that they condemn it in their General Assembly before even finding out the facts as to whether or not wild accusations of racist behavior were true (OPC)? You mean the one which supports R2K hand over fist (URC)? Which Reformed Church are we to be following?

7.) I also oppose many things CREC but if one opposes all things CREC then one must even oppose where the CREC gets matters correct (like manfully opposing R2K).

So my friend sends this URC R2K Pastor Palooka in one of Rocky Mountain States a couple of my take downs of David Van Drunen  on Iron Ink to refute his missive above and here is how Pastor Numpty responded;

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“2K is classical. It’s the two swords doctrine of the medieval ages. Luther is the one who started calling it 2 K. Calvin calls it the twofold kingdom. Hardly enlightenment. It sounds like the guy in Michigan is confused. Probably enjoys informal fallacies. You can take or leave us. We will not budge. We hold tightly to the confessions. Read Calvin’s Institutes, read Luther, DVD or any of the scholastic reformers.”

Pastor Twonk

URC Clergy

Pastor Twonk can say this with a straight face despite the fact that it’s pretty clear that what Calvin meant by “2K” is not the same as what Westmin-Cal. or David Van Drunen hold as R2K fanboys.

Just ask these guys if they’d like America to be Calvin’s Geneva and watch them begin to stammer.
  • The idea that historic 2K and R2K are the same creature is just stupid on steroids. Imagine, if you will, a Muslim not wanting an Islamic nation, or an atheist not wanting a secular nation, or a Jew not wanting a Jewish world.

  • It’s asinine for a Christian to not want a Christian nation. And it’s even more asinine for Reformed Christians like Pastor Twonk to say they they hold to the historic Reformed position and claim Calvin on their side when Calvin’s Geneva was literally the model of theocracy that Reformed Christians sought to model.

    It’s as clear as sunrise over Lake Michigan on a cloudless day that what John Calvin meant by “2K” is not the same as R2K. For this clergy member to claim that R2K is historic Confessional Calvinism is like saying that Miley Cyrus is an example of someone graduating from a fine finishing school.

Jordan Peterson & Rev. McAtee Detail the Cultural Marxists Accusations Against Western Man

Jordan Peterson recently summarized the contest that the West now faces against wickedness in high places. I have repeated that here with a few additions and emendations of my own.
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The governing ideology in the West right now characterized as Cultural Marxism has these three explicit accusations that drive their whole worldview agenda;

Accusation #1 —  Human culture, particularly in the West is best construed as an oppressive patriarchy motivated by the desire, willingness, and ability to use power defined as the compulsion of others against their will to attain what are purely selfish and self serving ends.

Note here that Biblical patriarchy is explicitly taught in Scripture as God’s order for all societies. As such this accusation is an accusation against God that God has structured the world wrongly.

Now, certainly we can agree that satanic patriarchy breeds oppressiveness and is animated by the sinful use of power to wrongly treat others to gain purely self and self serving ends. However, the answer to satanic patriarchy is not satanic matriarchy or satanic egalitarianism. The answer to satanic patriarchy is Christian patriarchy. The need of the hour for the West is Biblical patriarchy that is motivated by the desire, willingness, and ability to use power defined as the compulsion to serve God and so serve mankind to the end of glorifying God and building beautiful culture.

The ironic thing about this accusation of the Cultural Marxists is that they are using this accusation as a guilt inducing tool wielded by egalitarians who hate all patriarchy with the purpose, desire, willingness, and ability to use their power — defined as the compulsion of others against their will — to attain what are purely selfish, self serving and Satanic ends. The Cultural Marxists are accusing Christians what they themselves are guilty of. This is a classical Alinksyite move.

The Cultural Marxist use as examples for their accusation all social order realities. The Cultural Marxists insist that marriage is just a form of slavery, that friendship is just a form of exploitation, that Christianity is just a form of wicked domination, that a free Market is just a form of deception and theft and that political disagreement has always been just a pretext for war.

The Cultural Marxist historian then runs all of contemporary history  through this prism so that all of world history is seen to be the result of this oppressive patriarchy and its use of power to compel others for selfish ends particularly as pursued by the White Christian male.

Accusation #2 — Human activity, particularly of that in the West, is fundamentally a planet despoiling enterprise.

Of course this accounts for the multi-decade Malthusian hyper-ventilating about Global Warming (later Global climate change). Since the 1970’s when TIME magazine following Paul Ehrilich’s chicken little warnings about the end of the world due to the new coming ice age to the more recent warnings about the polar ice caps melting Cultural Marxists have playing this tune relentlessly.  This accounts for the Alexandria Occasional Cortex and “the Squads” demand for a Green New Deal. This accounts for the silliness that is electric cars and the effort to destroy the fossil fuel industry thus returning the West and all mankind back to energy-diminished stone age like existence. This thinking is behind the United Nations Agenda 2030 and is used as a red herring for Klaus “I can’t believe they believe me” Schwab’s “Great Reset.”   This accusation accounts for Biden’s mad spending plans on mass transit as mass transit promises to get people out of their cars resulting in the packing of people into urban centers as living in rural America is too expensive with gas at exorbitant prices.

This second accusation presupposes that the Human race is a threat to the attainment of ecological utopia that existed prior to the human population explosion and the ecological utopia that might again exist if we can just get a serious population reduction.

The Cultural Marxist is arguing that man, by his building of his industry across the planet has initiated a Global Climate change threat that requires the Malthusian directed reduction of man’s carbon footprint so that the planet doesn’t implode from man’s polluting presence.

Accusation #3 —  The prime contributor that makes up the tyranny of both the oppressive patriarchy and structures all of our social interaction — past and present — and the unforgivable despoiling of our beloved mother earth is damnable Christian white male ambition that is competitive, dominating, power mad, selfish, exploitive, and is further characterized by a continual raping and pillaging of all that it comes in contact with.

Peterson here combines Accusation #1 and #2 into a synthesis category. The bottom line is that it is the Christian white male who is guilty of all that is wrong with the world and as such it is the Christian white male especially of all people who must be exterminated like cockroaches at a wedding feast.

Rev. McAtee Answers Questions in Preparation for a Radio Interview

Years ago, I participated in a interview on a media format. Below are questions that they sent me to prepare for the interview and the answers that follow were limned out before the program in order to prepare for the questions.

“What is your hopefulness for a return to a Christianity that is once again characterized by covenantal kinism.”

Well, our hope ultimately can be based on nothing but God’s Word and God’s Word teaches that the knowledge of the glory of the Lord will cover the earth as the waters cover the sea. As it is the case that covenantal kinism is nothing but Biblical Christianity I can be certain that where Biblical Christianity comes to the fore so will covenantal kinism. Covenantal kinsim will be part and parcel of the postmillennialist tide. Scripture teaches in Daniel about the Great rock cut out of the mountain which destroys the idolatrous nations and eventually fills all the earth. Scripture teaches that Christ must reign till he puts all things under His feet. Scripture teaches that the little Mustard seed becomes a tree that is home to the nations. Scripture teaches that all the nations will come to Christ to be taught the Scripture (Micah 4, Isaiah 2). Scripture teaches that Christ being victorious will go from victory unto victory and so our hope for a renewal of Christianity rests in God’s promises from Scripture. Now this does not mean there will not be times of the waning of Biblical Christianity and we are living through one of those epochs now but as Scripture teaches … tears may last through the night but joy cometh in the morning. I may not live to see Global Reformation in my lifetime but I know because of the promises of Scripture that Christ’s Word will cover the earth as the waters cover the sea. That is the ultimate ground of my hopefulness. The penultimate ground of my hopefulness is knowing some of the saints that God has raised up for just such a time as this. If the Kinist movement was a Baseball team they’d exceed the 1927 Yankees in sheer quality. Our wives, and daughters and mothers in normal times would be considered Queens and the mothers of Kings. People like my wife and daughters, like the wife of John MacGregor in Atlanta, and Miss Emily Henry in the deep South, and like Miss Raudi there in Carolina. These are quality women who love Christ and demonstrate that in their homes and to their husbands. We are surrounded by quality men who know what they believe and why they believe it and what they don’t believe and why they don’t believe it. Read the writings of Davis Carlton, Luke Malsbury, Ehud Would, Darrell Dow and the Henry Brothers, Mickey and Robert. These are intelligent and humble people. Many or most of them should be in pulpits but they often can’t even find churches to attend. Tonight you’re reading a poem by Mark Chambers which would make Rudyard Kipling weep. Spend some time getting to know Dr. Shivers,  Joshua Parries, John Macgregor. Arnold Jagt has given us a great gift in organizing and releasing www.Pocketcollege.com. If Arnold never did another thing besides giving us pocket college and marketing Robinson curriculum he would have a great legacy indeed. The Elders, Mike and Dave, at the Church I serve are wonderfully solid men. My son Anthony is wise beyond his years and will be around another 60 years or so to be God’s witness. My sons-in-laws Ben and Joshua are good men. There are so many names. The problem is that we are so spread out. And lets not forget the handful of ministers out there. If all Lutherans could be Lutherans like Ross Mahan is Lutheran concourse with the Lutherans would be far easier. If all Baptists could be Baptists like John Weaver and Peter Hammond talking with the Baptist would be an easier time. These are great men… all the men I’ve mentioned are great men and so hope is to be had. So you ask me what my hope is for covenantal kinism, my answer is two fold. Ultimately my hope lies in God’s Word and His postmillennial promises. Penultimately my hope rests in the people God has raised up for just such a time as this. The godly Christians who God has opened the eyes to the wonders of His truth regarding peoples and nations are marvelous people and their greatness and excellence reveals what a Great God we serve. That God could take such a motley crew as ourselves and turn us into Kings and Captains, as well as Queens and Mother’s of a god-fearing people bespeaks God’s amazing Grace.

“What do you think is the leading challenge to overcome in the Church in the West today as it pertains to race realism?”

Cultural Marxism is, without doubt, our greatest worldview challenge because it is in Cultural Marxism that we find the heart and pulse of Alienism… the desire so Atomize men that they no longer have identity except as that identity is understood against the background of the pagan tyrant State.

Cultural Marxism is the belief that all our cultural productions such as the arts, our varying Institutions, our whole understanding of reality and ideas are emanations of underlying power structures. Reality thus is a social construct comprising of how power impresses itself on man collectively and individually. This means we must scrutinize and judge all culture and ideas based on their relation to power.

Following from this premise, Cultural Marxist advocates for the “persecuted” and “oppressed” must attack forms of culture that enforce the values of the ruling class and disseminate culture and ideas that support “oppressed” groups and “progressive” causes. Since White people have held all the power therefore White people must be seen as an evil to be wiped out.

From this definition we see that for the Cultural Marxist objective Transcendent truth does not exist. Rather truth is whatever the power brokers can impress upon the times. If there is no objective truth then the whole notion of “power” is completely arbitrary, and so power becomes defined as whatever the Cultural Marxist as God does not like.

Another great challenge is Gnosticism, putatively the polar opposite of the Materialism of Cultural Marxism and yet it’s constant bed partner.

Gnosticism is playing its dangerous game by insisting that only spiritual realities matter and therefore those creational material categories we received at birth are merely social constructs that can be changed around at will. The Gnosticism shows itself when people suggest that ethnicity doesn’t really matter for Christians.

What is it that has led to this vitriol against Nationalism?

Well, I’m not sure it is vitriol against all Nationalisms or rather just vitriol against white Christian nationalisms. If you view films like the Black Panther it is clear that Black Nationalism is a positive good. The theology of James Cone will quickly inform you that Black Nationalism is a positive good. Listen to Louis Farrakhan and it becomes clear that Black nationalism is a positive good. The vitriol is for Christian white nationalism and that is because it has been Christian at its foundation.

What did some of the Church Fathers think about ethno-nationalism?

See the entry on Iron Ink titles; “So say we all.”

Why is it that White people are so hated?

White people by God’s grace alone and in the context of His providence have been the carriers of Christianity. They are perfumed with Christ. They have built the great civilizations. They are envied by those who have not. Envy finds delight in the pulling down of the superior even if it doesn’t mean the rising up of the inferior. And Christian white civilization purely out of God’s grace has been superior to all other civilizations. This a fact that requires humility and repentance because of whom much is given much is to be required. Christian white people are going to be beaten with many stripes because they have turned their backs on God… in the words of Solzhenitsyn, they have forgotten God and so are fast becoming the tail and not the head.

On What is Necessary for Well Functional Social Orders & What Serves as Sand in the Gears

“I believe the Church is like the world, and consists of many forms, many races. I say to every race, maintain the integrity of your race; and to every nation, maintain the integrity of your nation, that it be not antagonized by other nations. This is the duty which God has historically devolved upon us.”
A. A. Hodge
Evangelical  Theology — p.  183

Philia. — Aristotelian concept signifying ‘friendship’ — ethno-cultural consensus between members of the same City.

Aristotle believed that democracy was only possible only within homogeneous ethnic groups. This belief is contrasted with the work of  despots who realized that their despotism could only work when the social-order was highly fragmented. This is the conclusion that Robert Putnam’s “Bowling Alone” also came to writing thousands of years after Aristotle.

We learn from Aristotle and Putnam that a multi-ethnic society therefore necessarily begets a top down despotic governmental type approach in order to bring order out of the ethnic/cultural chaos. Indeed, it would not be too much to say that a multi-ethnic society cannot be anything but anti-democratic and chaotic, for it lacks Aristotle’s “philia,” — the profound, flesh-and-blood fraternity of citizens.

Tyrants and despots divide and rule, they want the City divided by ethnic rivalries. Ethnic rivalries within one and the same social-order means that there must be a central power by which the rivalries can be tamed. For those with Despotic type ambitions the pursuit of racial/ethnic and cultural plurality is a must. for in such a social order one finds the indispensable condition for breaking up the a people’s natural sovereignty as found in its racial/ethnic and cultural unity. Ethnic/racial chaos prevents all philia from developing for the obvious reasons that there is very little common ground between people of vastly different racial/ethnic compositions. Even the common ground found among Christians of different ethnic/racial compositions may not be enough for a well oiled social order as we witness in the book of Acts where the Greek and Hebrew widows were at odds with one another in the Church over food distribution.

A national citizenry is formed on the basis of proximity — both in blood and faith — or it is not formed at all. The abstract, integrationist doctrines of the French Revolution envisage man as simply man as an abstract quite without a prior belongingness to a people. For the French Revolutionist types man is an interchangeable cog,  a resident, or a consumer. His racial/ethnic makeup is irrelevant. To the contrary the Biblical Christian insists that those things which bind a people together begins with a common lineal heritage and a shared religion/faith. Those elements that are necessary to make a people a people like civic spirit, safe neighborhoods, social harmony of interests, and solidarity, are based not on education, or persuasion alone, or a shared national creedal allegiance abstracted from a shared homogenous reality but instead are based on a cultural unanimity that is found in common values, lifestyles, and innate behaviors largely accounted for by both a shared genetic gene pool and a shared common religion/faith. Societies need something to glue them together; it turns out that having the same basic hardware, and thus the same basic inclinations and abilities, is a necessary but not sufficient condition. This means that without it, you have no glue, but you need other stuff as well to make a society work, chiefly of which is a shared common religion/faith but also including a shared language and history.

If we flip that around, it means that without ethnic nationalism, no society will survive. Mixed-race societies substitute ideology (propositional nationhood) or dogma (Political Correctness) for those innate bonds, but these are not as strong, which is why such societies tend to militarize and become totalitarian in order to preserve some unity.

This social order dysfunction has been pursued in these united States ever since the Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1965, advocated by Ted Kennedy, Phil Hart, Emanuel Celler and most of the Republican party at the time. It was Southern Democrats like Sam Ervin and Strom Thurmond (who had only recently become Republican) who opposed LBJ’s destruction of America. This was signed into law by LBJ, and it ended the immigration quota system that had been in effect since 1924 and which had been railed against by those who were only marginally American for decades. The proponents of the Hart – Celler act promised up and down that it would not change the demographics and so ethnic composition of the nation;

“First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same … Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset … Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia … In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think’. 

US Sen. Edward Kennedy
Democrat — Massachusetts

Senate. Senator Hiram Fong, the first Asian-American Senator and the son of Cantonese immigrants, stated to the Senate Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization that,

“Asians represent six-tenths of 1 percent of the population of the United States … with respect to Japan, we estimate that there will be a total for the first 5 years of some 5,391 … the people from that part of the world will never reach 1 percent of the population …Our cultural pattern will never be changed as far as America is concerned”.

Attorney General at the time Nicholas Katzenbach testified that,

“This bill is not designed to increase or accelerate the numbers of newcomers permitted to come to America. Indeed, this measure provides for an increase of only a small fraction in permissible immigration.”

Robert Kennedy stated that if the bill was passed;

“I would say for the Asia-Pacific Triangle [immigration] would be approximately 5,000, Mr. Chairman, after which immigration from that source would virtually disappear; 5,000 immigrants would come the first year, but we do not expect that there would be any great influx after that.”

Despite these assurance by 1980, *most* immigrants were coming from Latin America, Asia, and Africa, and at least 7 million entered the US legally during that decade. There has perhaps never been in all of US history such a deficit between political predictions about the impact of a piece of legislation and the reality that followed. When this Bill was passed 88.6% of the total US population in 1960 was white. In 2020 the percentage of the total population of Non-Hispanic white people is around 58% of America’s population. This is a decrease from the 2010 census when non-Hispanic whites made up 63.7% of the population.

All of this was accelerated and made worse by President Ronald Regan when he declared amnesty for illegal immigrants in 1986 which did nothing but provide an incentive for even more illegals to come and enter America illegally. Reagan perhaps did as much as LBJ to insure the browning of America. At least Reagan had the good sense to regret his signing of the 1986 immigration act. According to Ronald Reagan himself, as told to his trusted long-time friend and U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese, the biggest mistake of his presidency was signing the 1986 amnesty for what turned out to be more than half the five million illegal immigrants in the country.

Clearly, we are now suffering the repercussions of the 1965 Hart-Celler immigration act and the 1986 Reagan Amnesty. This is clear to anybody who doesn’t deny reality — which would include people like America’s clergy class. Men like Rich Lusk, Doug Wilson, Michael Foster, Darrel Doane, James White, Voddie Baucham, J. Ligon Duncan, Russell Moore, John Piper, Al Mohler, Tim Keller, Sean Michael Lucas continue to insist things like “there is no such thing as race,” or “race is a social construct” or “race is only about the amount of melanin once does or does not have,” or “while ethnicity might exist race certainly doesn’t exist.” Try selling that bilge to the patient waiting to get a bone marrow transplant.

The clergy in the formerly White Hat denominations are the villains now in the work of preventing a solution to our immigration / social-order problems. All we get from the clergy crowd is Gnostic pollyanna-isms like, “But the gospel has the power to destroy nature so that all that has been true throughout history no longer need be true when it comes to building social orders that have a harmony of interests.” However, with these kind of statements or statements similar to this we find the clergy corps going all French Revolutionaries on us by insisting just as Danton and Robespierre did in the day that man is just an abstraction that has no belongingness that he is born with that has to be taken into consideration.

In the end the modern clergy corps is contributing to the genocide of the White man in the West and that all in the name of “the love of Jesus.” Yes, that is right… GENOCIDE

Genocide is defined in Article 2 of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948) as,

“any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part ; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”

The White man in the West is now being deliberately inflicted upon him via immigration patterns and legislation conditions of life calculated to bring about the White man’s physical destruction in whole or in part.

How is this Christianity to embrace this suicidal altruism which is being foisted upon us by the clergy corps in America?

Wherein Natural Law Approves Sodomy

Start the video at the 2minute mark and learn from this intellect the value of Natural Law.

Also, as pertaining to the value of Natural Law a Senior Bishop in the Church of England tells us that it is no longer ‘self-evident,’  that Natural law teaches how it is we can know what a woman is.

“A senior bishop of the Church of England said this week the Church has no ‘official definition’ of a woman amidst an evolving understanding of gender in the contemporary world.

Adam Kendry, a lay member of the General Synod, the Anglican Church’s legislative body, posed a written question: “What is the Church of England’s definition of a woman?” during the July 8-12 meeting of the synod.
In his response, Dr. Robert Innes, the Church’s Bishop in Europe and chairman of the Faith and Order Commission, declared there is currently “no official definition” of a woman.

“There is no official definition, which reflects the fact that until fairly recently definitions of this kind were thought to be self-evident, as reflected in the marriage liturgy,” Bishop Innes stated.
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When the quote above notes, “were thought to be self evident,” this is another way of saying that Natural Law does not teach us what a woman is since the idea of “self-evident” is a natural law category.

Natural law sucks. It is only as good as the presuppositions one brings to whatever they are observing.

The problem with Natural Law is not that God’s world doesn’t declare His handiwork. The problem with Natural Law is that man is in epistemological rebellion against God and as such refuses to own as true what they can’t escape ontologically knowing as image bearers of God. So, appealing to Natural Law as a means by which social orders can be governed as existing among fallen men is just the kind of logic one would expect from those getting a degree from Wesmin-Cal (Escondido) having sat under the tutelage of that faculty which gives one the likes of David Ven Drunnen Q. Scott Clark, and Hike Morton.

You’d think smart guys like Stephen Wolfe would recognize this.