Eavesdropping Among the Baptists at Their Convention

Watching the Southern Baptist Convention
I’m reminded why I practiced Baptist prevention
They are only outdone
In the stupidity run
By Presbyterian and Reformed “comprehension”


1.) “If some people in this room were as passionate about the gospel as they are about (opposing) critical race theory, we would win this world to Christ.”

James Merritt,

Chairman of the resolutions committee

Former Southern Baptist Convention president

“If some people in this room were as passionate about the gospel as they are about (opposing) Caesar worship, we would win this world to Christ,” said nobody in the early Church.

I wonder if James would agree with this,

“If some people in Germany were as passionate about the gospel as they are about (opposing) the sale of indulgences, we would win this world to Christ.”

Johann Tetzel

or this,

“If some people at this council were as passionate about the gospel as they are about (opposing) the idea of Christ as a created being, we would win this world to Christ.”


Or this

“If some people in this debate were as passionate about the gospel as they are about (opposing) freewill and the innate goodness of man, we would win this world to Christ.”


If James wasn’t so stupid he’d know the meaning of a false dichotomy… he’d know that someone could be passionate about opposing CRT because they are so passionate about winning the world to Christ. If James wasn’t so stupid he’d realize that the World can’t be won to Christ by those holding to CRT and so we need to be passionate about stopping CRT in the Church.

2.) Pastor Bryan Kent of Compass Church in Mason, Michigan, commended outgoing Sothern Baptist President Greear’s remarks, saying that if critical race theory “has an echo of truth among our brothers and sisters of color… we should not be in such a rush to condemn.”


So all it takes to not be in a rush to condemn obvious in your face heresy (CRT) is minorities hearing an echo of “truth.” What if I said I heard an “echo of truth,” in polygamy since it is in the Bible? Would Pastor Bryan Kent decide not to be in such a rush to condemn? What if I said I heard an “echo of truth” in owning slaves since it is in the Bible? Would Pastor Bryan Kent decide not to be in a rush to condemn?

Or is it the case for Pastor Bryan Kent that one has to be a minority before they can hear echoes of truth that mean that we decide not to be in a rush to condemn?

3.) During its annual meeting in Nashville, the Southern Baptist Convention approved a measure rejecting “any theory or worldview that finds the ultimate identity of human beings in ethnicity or in any other group dynamic.”

Online Article

Any other group dynamic?

The promise is to you and to your children…. Acts 2:38

There goes covenant theology out the window. Well, I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that Baptists don’t desire to find their ultimate identity in Christ as their families rest in Christ.

4.) File Under: The New SBC President’s explanation of the Trinity.

“God is the creator and ruler of the universe. He has eternally existed in three persons: the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. These three are co-equal parts of one God.”

For those not in the know, the above is heresy. The SBC has just elected a President who believes that the one God is made up of three co-equal parts. This would be either some form of Tri-theism or some form of partialism.Oh … and when the man was elected and this was noticed on his church’s webpage it suddenly disappeared down the memory hole.

5.) File under: I need to start a blog called “The Stupid Things people say.”

“There are a lot of conservatives with a Biblical Worldview that are going to go to hell because they don’t know Jesus.”

J. D. Hall
Baptist Minister and Luminary

Ummm … except it isn’t possible to have a Biblical Worldview if you don’t know Jesus. This is idiocy at its finest.

R2K as Kulturkampf Deniers

There is a recent phenomenon in our ongoing saga of the kulturkampf (Culture War) and that is the denial by those Cultural Marxists waging the kulturkampf that the culture wars really exist. This follows the same technique that government school teachers were taught to employ decades ago. Teachers were taught that when parents came to them at different times about the same problem going on in the classroom that the way to defuse the parent’s complaint was by telling them, “Really? You are the first parent to come to me with a complaint on this subject.” The teacher would keep dishing out that line no matter how many parents came to her with the same complaint about the same problem. By implicitly denying the problem while at the same time sending the multitude of parents home thinking that somehow they were seeing problems that were not present the government schools were able to continue with the educational malfeasance without a problem. The teachers were winning the kulturkampf with the parents by denying that there was a problem that anybody was noticing but one complaining parent. It really was a stroke of manipulative genius.

Today that kind of denialism is happening in our broader culture. People are raising their voices in complaint but the cultural gatekeepers at the Fake News Outlets often keep saying, “problem? what problem?” These people are in denialism mode.

Culture war denialism is pursued not only by Fake News outlets but we are getting it in pulpits all across America. Whenever the clergy refuses to address from the pulpit the attack on cultural institutions that are immediately and obviously downstream from and are being informed and shaped by Biblical Christian categories there the parishioners are experiencing kulturkampf denialism. The parishioners are implicitly being told by their Clergy’s silence that they can continue to remain asleep as what little remains of Christian cultural norms burn down around their ears.

The above paragraph explains one of the dangers of Radical Two Kingdom theology (R2K). R2K insists by way of dogma that the pulpit should be silent on cultural issues. R2K insists that a man in the pulpit who preaches on abortion, Marxism, the destruction of the family unit as state policy, etc. is making Jesus unhappy. Such ministers who preach on these matters are, per R2K, at best unfaithful to Jesus and at worst are going to occupy hell forever. R2K “theology” has taught the clergy to practice functional kulturkampf denialism.

If the above observations about R2K are true (and they are) then we see how R2K with its kulturkampf denialism fits hand in glove with the agenda of the Cultural Marxists. R2K guarantees the success of the Cultural Marxists because the effect of its dogma is to both keep the church asleep or failing that convinces the church that as there is no such thing as Christian culture therefore it should not be exercised about imaginary things called “kulturkampf.” The best friend in the conservative Church in the West that the Cultural Marxists have are the R2K boys at Escondido and now salted in Seminaries all across America.

Culture war denialism, in its broadest expression, is an attempt to pretend that nothing is happening around us as Western Civilization — a grouping of social orders that are immediately downstream of Christianity — is pulled up by its roots. If the denialists say anything about the kulturkampf they merely note in an offhand way that any changes should be supported by Christians because Jesus Loves social justice. God loves everybody, the Kulturkampf denialists tell us, and if we don’t love everybody also then we are haters and deserve to be labeled as “White Supremacists.” Naturally, this means we need to open the sluice gate for the pervert, the feminist, the Marxist Academic, and the minority hordes who have become enchanted and poisoned with Cultural Marxism.

Those who are denying the Kulturkampf in the West claiming instead that there is no real culture struggle but rather that only a small percentage of reactionaries are displeased that they are losing their cultural gatekeeper status are those who are seeking to lull Middle America to sleep so that it does not wake up and see what is going on. The only way the Cultural Marxists can succeed in this endeavor to pull down what little remains of Western civilization is to make sure the great American Middle does not clue in on what is really happening, or if it does clue in, it clues in, in such a way that the great American Middle is convinced that these are only minor changes that will pursue equity for everyone. To that end, the cancel culture deniers keep denying that cancel culture exists or that it is only minimal. Only by that denial combined with the continued aggressive effort to engage in the kulturkampf can the Cultural Marxists hope to win.

Victor Davis Hanson Holding Down the Right Side of the Left

“Very important for people to realize that while the founding fathers their achievement was not because they were male but they transcended their sex. They weren’t just chauvinists or racists. They created ideas out of the enlightenment that meant that you would have woman’s suffrage, that you would have civil rights because that was the logic of “all men are created equal.” They didn’t have to do that. There is nothing in the Constitution that mentions race or gender so that they were male is incidental.”

Victor Davis Hanson

On Tucker Carlson show

Victor Davis Hanson is billed as a conservative. The quote above demonstrates that he is merely holding down the right side of the left. Davis, in point of fact, is a classic Renaissance Humanist. There is very little that is conservative about the man.

Critiquing the quote we would note;

1.) The founding father’s transcended their sex? What does that even mean?

2.) While they were chauvinists and racists “they weren’t JUST chauvinists and racists.” Well, that is a relief to know.

3.) I guran-damn-tee you that very very few, if any of those founding fathers would have supported women’s suffrage or civil rights in the way women’s suffrage and civil rights occurred.

4.) The majority of the founding fathers were not operating out of an Enlightenment worldview. The founding documents (Constitution and Declaration of Independence) can only be understood in the context of a Christian World and life view.

5.) The founding fathers did not believe that all men were created equal in the modern egalitarian sense. They believed all Englishmen were equal. That was the issue at hand. The issue at hand in the American counter-Revolution was whether Englishmen in the colonies were equal to Englishman in England. The fact that they did not believe that all men were created equal in the modern egalitarian sense is seen in the fact that in the Declaration of Independence they refer to the Indians as “savages.” That is an odd thing to say if you believe all men are created equal in the sense that Hanson is using it.

6.) I suppose that they were white is incidental as well. I mean, just as women could have as easily produced the same document (after all the men transcended their gender) so nonwhite men could likewise have produced that same document since race and gender are incidental.

What a maroon.

You Might be a Conservative Presbyterian if…

You might be Conservative Presbyterian if….

12.) You cannot find it in yourself to be outraged by the grossest perversity creeping into your denomination preferring instead to chatter on endlessly about the need to find unity.

11.) You oppose abortion by supporting side-B sodomy.

10.) You believe “a woman can do anything a non-ordained man can do,” forgetting that unlike non-ordained men a woman cannot impregnate another woman. Well… not usually.

9.) You support gay culture, being gay, and the ordination of gay ministers as long as they don’t practice that thing that defines the meaning of being gay.

8.) You believe complementarianism needs to move more towards egalitarianism allowing egalitarianism to move towards an androgyny social order… all the while planning to move towards androgyny for the next General Assembly.

7.) You believe in “good faith subscription” which means your confession is a moving target.

6.) You use women Elders but you just call them “Women Leaders.”

5.) You pee sitting down.

4.) You are just now opening your church from the Deep State Virus scare but are doing so making sure the cousins don’t sit too close together.

3.) Your Elders passed out the Sacraments with masks and gloves on and could do so by tossing the elements as contained in a two-sided handy dandy peal-back styrofoam container.

2.) Your minister said more than once from the pulpit that loving our neighbor as well as obeying the magistrate required everyone to wear a mask in Church.

1.) You sing the Battle Hymn of the Republic every Sunday prior to 04 July and you recognize all your veterans by having them stand on the Sunday prior to Memorial Day.

Dickensian Characters — Mr. Doubt

If you’ve ever read a few Dickens novels you know what a Dickensian Character is. He or she are the kind of person you meet who could’ve walked straight out of a Dickens novel. This is not an insult. It is merely to recognize that some people are so unique or live with so much flair that you think that “only Charles Dickens could’ve created that person,” when in point of fact these types often walk among us. So, this is a new category I’m starting On Iron Ink. The Dickens people I’ve known in my 3 score years of being a Dickensian character myself.


After getting out of school in the Junior high years it was straight on my bike to head a few blocks over to the Sturgis Journal — the community newspaper. In 1972 local small-town newspapers still aspired to carry the same kind of news you’d find in big-city papers combined with news of more local interest. The newspaper outlets of these small cities though still had their own ideological flavor depending on who the local Editor was.

My Brother and I for a few years had the largest paper route in the city. We delivered over 220 papers daily in a city of 8K. Every delivery day started in the basement of the Sturgis Journal — a two-story brick building on the corner of E. Chicago and John Street. As paperboys, one would enter the building from the John side of the building, take a sharp left down a flight of stairs and arrive in the basement of the building where the presses were.

I can still hear the debilitating sound of those presses as they daily chunked off each daily edition. The paperboys would congregate there awaiting our respective newspaper bundles to be tossed across the counter at us so we could grab the bound papers, run upstairs and back outside to fold, rubberband, and bag the newspaper so we could be off on our various routes.

However during the time between being downstairs in the press room and being upstairs folding papers we all came face to face with Mr. Leo Doubt. Mr. Doubt was the man who ran the press room. He was likely two generations older than the paperboys but he treated us like little men. Mr. Doubt was probably 5’10” and nearing retirement. His air was thin but his demeanor was large. He seemed to be always yelling, but only later I realized that was because he was seeking to be heard over the sound of the presses. The thing I remember most clearly about Mr. Doubt is that he was always — ALWAYS — drenched with sweat. He always wore a button-up shirt but the shirt was always wet whenever I saw the man — doubtless from working among the presses as he did. When he spoke it always seemed a matter of urgency much like one sees in old films when someone starts yelling, “STOP THE PRESSES, STOP THE PRESSES.”

He knew his boys by name. There was the McAtee boys, Mark Pigeon (who had the extraordinary ability to deliver his daily route on his unicycle), Mark King (who kept his energy up by having a handy container of vodka and orange juice on him at all times), Jim Wiederman  (who passed on his route to me), and a cast of scores. As each bundled stack came out, Mr. Doubt would yell our names out and we would step up and grab our bundle.

Mr. Doubt had a small office in the Pressroom but I seldom remember the man using the office. Maybe he did when the paperboys were not present but when the presses were running Mr. Doubt was on the floor barking out orders.

This is the only context I knew Mr. Doubt in as a boy until I ended up in the hospital — a locale I became somewhat familiar with between 13-16.  While in the hospital Mr. Doubt showed up one day to pay me a visit. I was as flabbergasted as a 13-year-old could be. Mr. Doubt was visiting me in the hospital? Would he be as loud here? Would he still be dripping with sweat? Would all that intensity show up?

The Mr. Doubt that showed up that day in the hospital was diametrically other. He was a kindly grandfatherly aged man who was concerned about one of his boys and he came to see how that lad was doing bearing gifts. He had brought with him magazines — reading material for me. He had remembered me as someone who was always reading the paper before I would be on my way delivering the paper. He had chastised me for it more than once, insisting that paying customers wanted to read those papers and that I could read the paper after I was finished with my route. His magazine gift was very logical for a man who ran presses to bring to one of his lads. They were magazines that dealt with the strange and unusual in natural life. Funny, almost 50 years later I still remember the magazines that Mr. Doubt brought to me while in the hospital.

We visited a while but he actually spent more time talking to my Father than me. He had communicated his concern and it wasn’t like a man born in 1900 and a boy born in 1959 had a great deal in common. I do remember though the tenderness of this man for one of his “boys.” I had always associated Mr. Doubt with a heavy masculinity and his visit impressed me so much it is still dancing with me almost 50 years later.

I don’t know what happened to Mr. Doubt. By the time I was 16, I no longer delivered the Sturgis Journal and I lost contact with him. I suppose he soon retired, collected his social security, and hopefully died surrounded by his family.

Perhaps I haven’t done justice to the Dickensian nature of Mr. Doubt there in his Pressroom shouting out orders in his perpetually sweated up button-up shirt always bearing an air of intensity about him… until he showed up in a boy’s hospital room, hat in hand (men always wore hats then) on a mission of kindness.