McAtee Contra Layfield – Part V

Steven Layfield writes,

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Thus, finding our universal identity in Christ whatever our national or linguistic ancestry, we are now members together of the Israel of God. The universal Christian Church comprises Mongols, Americans, Africans, Malaysians, Chinese, Australians, Europeans, etc, etc. We may hold on to our ethnic identities, but we must do so in a God-honouring way in full accord with the Scriptural paradigm.

BLMc responds,

1.) The above is true just as saying;

Thus, finding our universal identity in Christ whatever our gender, we are now members together of the Israel of God. The universal Christian Church comprises males and females. We may hold on to our gender identities, but we must do so in a God-honouring way in full accord with the Scriptural paradigm.

2.) Steve, like so many others, seems to miss that the Church of Jesus Christ is comprised not of a bunch of abstracted individuals but is comprised as a confederacy of nations so while men and women are members together of the Israel of God they are members as Mongols, Americans, Africans, Malaysians, Chinese, Australians and Europeans. In other words, our belonging to Christ isn’t a belonging absent our race, ethnicity or gender. Belonging to Christ doesn’t negate who God has ordained us to be in our creatureliness.

SL writes,

Accordingly, we must resist the temptation to judge with our eyes. For Paul tells us, ‘he is not a Jew (i.e. Christian), which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.’ (Rom 2:28-29). Kinism fails to recognise this fundamental spiritual identification. Instead, it seeks to build a sophisticated pseudo-theology based upon the actual blood running in our veins.

BLMc responds,

This is probably the most ignorant thing SL wrote. The problem here is that SL really does seem to think, at some level, that once once becomes Christian our corporeal categories disappear. In sections like this it sounds very much like SL is Gnostic.

No Kinist denies Romans 2:28f and no Kinist thinks they are right with Christ on the basis of their blood. SL seems to not understand what Kinism is vis-a-vis Christian Identity. Kinism most certainly does not seek to build a sophisticated pseudo-theology based upon the actual blood running our our veins. However, we do expect Gnostics to accuse us of that. Kinists, like the Apostle Paul merely believe there is nothing wrong with having a special affection for one’s own people just as Paul expresses in Romans 9.

3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my Kinsmen according to the flesh…

Kinists do not teach their children that they are saved because of their blood though they do teach their children what a privilege it is that they were born into a Christian family where God has promised to be our God to a thousand generations as each generation walks in terms of the Covenant and so show that they have placed their faith in Christ who alone has kept all the covenant stipulations on their behalf.

SL writes,

Moreover, scientifically Kinism does not stack up. Basic to a proper understanding of genetics is the realisation that within a biblical ‘kind’ (Heb = bara) there is a rich reservoir of genetic information capable of finding expression outwardly in a wide variety of forms: long-haired, short-haired, tall, squat, strong, energetic, sensitive to smell, ferocious, timid, etc, etc. Unseen genetic coding at a microscopic level accounts for a host of external, visible traits together with many unseen internal characteristics (emotional, psychological, linguistic, musical, etc.) Selective breeding over generations can produce creatures with very noticeable outward features. In dogs they give rise to Pit Bulls, Huskies, Great Danes, Labradors, Terriers, etc. Thoughtful dog owners choose their preferred breed carefully! However, specialisation brings with it inherent trouble. The genetic information required for all round good health gets diluted. Consequently, pure breeds of sheepdogs may well exhibit physical ailments. Labradors are often genetically prone to hip and elbow dysplasia. Other inherited diseases can include eye disorders such as progressive retinal atrophy, which can cause blindness. Degenerative myelopathy is a common condition among German Shepherds – an untreatable disease that results in progressive paralysis. Curiously, and no doubt significantly, crossbreeds and mongrels are generally physically healthier than purebreds, more psychologically stable and invariably live longer. Now, if that basic scientific principle applies to humanity, we should find that ‘so called’ inter-racial progeny are healthier and perhaps more inherently ‘capable’ than interbred cousins.

BLMc responds,

Yes… I’m quite sure the offspring a plow horse and a Clydesdale is sure to be the next winner of the Kentucky Derby.

Nobody ever said that too close inbreeding is a good thing anymore than to far outbreeding is a good thing.

And the whole idea that dog-breeding proves that inter-racial progeny are healthier and more inherently capable is just more of Steve’s speculation as on steroids.

Does Steve ever deal with his opponents arguments or does he keep building straw-men in order to knock down as as to claim victory?

Finally, after thousands of years of world history I wonder if SL would mind too terribly of naming a mongrel and crossbreed race which has stood athwart the world and ruled it as the English have or as the French have or as the Mongols once did or as the Romans did.

SL writes,

We are living in an era of increasing scientific discovery and empirical experimentation. Never before has such extensive travel been available to us. Never before has the possibility of marrying someone raised on the other side of the globe over successive generations been possible. It is this author’s contention that we will discover, just as was found to be so with dogs, so humanity is destined to recover some (at least!) of what was lost or damaged genetically back at Babel!

BLMc responds

More of Steve’s famous speculation.

Christians keep talking about the “reversal of Babel.” Babel will only be reversed in Hell where finally all distinctions are fully and finally eliminated. In hell men and women will be gender-less. In Hell John Lenon’s Imagine will come to pass because in Hell you can be sure there will be no countries … no races .. no ethnicities. In Hell doubtless humans will be like dogs and get back what was lost or damaged genetically back at Babel.

SL writes.

Perhaps this simple consideration, coupled of course with an increased propensity to covenant keeping statecraft, might so enrich future civilisations of humanity that we shall begin to see God’s curse substantially lifted or at least attenuated. This again resonates with the long term vision of Biblical prophecy. Is it not yet a very little while till (Z) Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field, And the fruitful field be esteemed as a forest? 18 (AA) In that day the deaf shall hear the words of the book, And the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity and out of darkness. 19 (AB)The humble also shall increase their joy in the Lord, And (AC) the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel. 20 For the terrible one is brought to nothing, (AD)The scornful one is consumed, And all who (AE)watch for iniquity are cut off— 21 Who make a man an offender by a word, And (AF) lay a snare for him who reproves in the gate, And turn aside the just (AG)by empty words. 22 Therefore thus says the Lord, (AH)who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob: “Jacob shall not now be (AI)ashamed, Nor shall his face now grow pale; 23 But when he sees his children, (AJ)The work of My hands, in his midst, They will hallow My name, And hallow the Holy One of Jacob, And fear the God of Israel. 24 These also (AK)who erred in spirit will come to understanding, And those who complained will learn doctrine.” (Isaiah 29) 20 “No more shall an infant from there live but a few days, Nor an old man who has not fulfilled his days; For the child shall die one hundred years old, (AI)But the sinner being one hundred years old shall be accursed. 21 (AJ)They shall build houses and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and eat their fruit. 22 They shall not build and another inhabit; They shall not plant and (AK)another eat; For (AL)as the days of a tree, so shall be the days of My people, And (AM)My elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands. 23 They shall not labour in vain, (AN)Nor bring forth children for trouble; For (AO) they shall be the descendants of the blessed of the Lord, And their offspring with them. (Isaiah 65) Steve Layfield – September 2020

BLMc responds,

Here we see that Steve’s eschatology is basically a vision completely consisting with the Humanist New World Order only as “Christian.” Steve sees a global amalgamated coffee-latte crèam colored community under Christ where all colors have bled into one. This is John Lenon’s “Imagine” vision Christianized. Steve sees this as a possible curse attenuated world whereas this vision without nations strikes me as hell on earth. Biblical Postmillennialism believes in Nations. In Micah 4 and Isaiah 2 – passages often understood as a foreshadowing of the postmillennial age – we see the nations as nations streaming to the “Mountain of the Lord.” Nations do not go away in the postmillennial age and anybody who teaches that they do is not teaching Biblical Christianity but a kind of NWO Christianity.

Author: jetbrane

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