“They brought to us 8 Indian girls, all daughters of chiefs, in order to cement our friendship…
The girls, Cortes added, must become Christian before we could accept them, and the people must give up sodomy, for they had boys dressed as women who practised that accursed vice for profit. Moreover every day they sacrificed before our eyes three, four, or five Indians, whose hearts were offered to those idols and whose blood was plastered on the walls. The feet, arms and legs of their victims were cut of and eaten, just as we eat beef from the butcher’s in our country. I even believe that they sold it in the tinaguez or markets. Cortes told them that if they gave up these wicked practices, not only would we be their friends, but we would vie them other provinces to rule. The Caciques, papas and the dignitaries all replied that it would be wrong for them to give up their idols and sacrifices, for these gods of theirs brought them health and good harvests and all that they needed; but as for sodomy, measures would be taken to see that the practice was stopped.
This insolent reply was more than Cortes or any of us who had seen all their cruelties and obscenities could stand. Reminding us of the doctrines of our holy faith, Cortes asked us “If we do not pay God so much honour as to stop them from making sacrifices to their idols, how can we ever accomplish anything worth doing?”
He told us that we must overthrow their idols that very day, and be absolutely prepared to fight if they tried to prevent us. We, as usual, were all armed and ready…
Bernal Diaz
The Conquest of New Spain
Let’s pretend that Cortez was R2K.
They brought to us 8 Indian girls, all daughters of chiefs, in order to cement our friendship…
The girls, Cortes added, could not be accepted because in order to accept them they must become Christian but that requirement would violate our pledge not to pollute the pluralistic public square by requiring of you, as a pagan, that which you do not want to do. Now, in terms of sodomy, we observed how their boys dressed as women who practice that accursed vice for profit but, well, while personally and individually we are opposed to it we understand how pluralism works. Now we noticed that every day they sacrificed before our eyes three, four, or five Indians, whose hearts were offered to those idols and whose blood was plastered on the walls. The feet, arms and legs of their victims were cut off and eaten, just as we eat beef from the butcher’s in our country. I even believe that they sold it in the tinaguez or markets. Cortez told them that he understood the common realm was, well … common and that he knew that if he and his Spaniards wanted to worship on Sundays Cortez’s Spanish troops had to give the Caciques room for their varying forms of worship, however untoward they may seem to the Spaniard. Cortez appealed to the precepts of Natural law as a reason to stop human sacrifice, but they said they had not heard of any god named Natural law and that surely any god named Natural law who was not powerful enough to stop their sacrifices wasn’t much of a god to be worried about. The Caciques, papas and the dignitaries continued by replying that it would be wrong for them to give up their idols and sacrifices, for these gods of theirs brought them health and good harvests and all that they needed; but as for sodomy, measures would be taken to see that the practice was stopped.
This insolent reply prompted Cortez to say that he understood and that it was ok because his eschatology informed him that “evil would alway grow together with good.” Cortez told us, “If we do not pay God so much honor as to not allow a pluralistic social order where human sacrifice to false gods can occur, how can we ever tell them about Jesus?”
Cortez told us that we must be polite to their idols and show deference that very day, and be absolutely prepared to fight to protect pluralism if any neo-calvinists tried to prevent public square religious pluralism among the Caciques. We, as troops from Westminster SC, as usual, were all armed and ready…
chirp chirp chirp chirp
Is that the sound morons make these days?
Excellent Post. Hopefully this little kindergarten lesson in analogy will help some thick-headed R2K’ers.
I don’t have much to say on this, but as far as not “cleansing the polluted pluralistic public square” and letting evil have just as equal of a place as Christianity, that’s ridiculous. Whatever happened to cleansing the evil from among you, and bringing God’s justice to bear? Either you hate evil or you love it, and I’m pretty sure R2K loves it.
Darryl Hart, if ignorance was bliss, you’d be the happiest man alive.
Every Super hero needs a great villain who pushes him to rise to great heights of daring do.
The fact that I’m not a super-hero is seen by the fact that God has given me such a “clever” arch villain like Hart to contend with.
Actually, I think we should be more charitable. We should commend our chirpy little friend for displaying improvement in consistency (note the repetition of “chirp”), depth of thought (“chirp” has nuanced meaning),and personal maturity (no anti-Dutch bigotry in the term “chirp”).
Mark,
Darryl told me off-line that “chirp” was Friesian for “Dutch people are stupid.”
Hart divides God’s kingdom into “spiritual” which is church and individual piety, and everything else, which is civil government, business, education, arts, media, etc. He says the “second kingdom” is ruled by natural law and is a neutral realm not governed by scripture. It is a denial of the full Gospel, simple as that. God’s good news is that He reigns and is redeeming all of creation.
What can you expect from a pig but a grunt? Well a chirp as well I suppose.
Nice post Bret
Reminds me of a poem someone wrote about a Kerux review of ‘The Law Is Not of Faith’ 🙂