Michael Foster’s Evasions … McAtee Evades Foster’s Evasions

From what I am told Michael Foster and Andrew Torba are soon to speak at the same conference. As of late Torba has said some very Kinist like things while Foster continues to slam any notion of Kinism. Recently Foster suggested that was because his Jewish grandmother who survived the holocaust had a major presence in his life. Now what that has to do with the hating of Kinism (which Foster most certainly does)I couldn’t even begin to guess. Well, actually, I could begin to guess and guess pretty good but I’ll restrain myself.

Below we find Foster trying to nuance is recent attack on Kinism. I will fisk as we go.

Michael Foster,

Do I think that there is a war on white people? Kind of. I just don’t think it is what some people think it is. There can be no question that there is a deep animus aimed towards “whites”* in most forms of popular media. There is a constant attempt to depict “whites” as hateful selfish oppressors against “non-whites.” And with this there are implicit and explicit calls to lessen or even eradicate the white population.

McAtee responds,

1.) War is like pregnancy Michael. Either people are warring against you or they are not. There is no “kind-of.” Kind of dead is still dead and dead is the consequence of both war and “kind-of war.”

2.) Notice that whites is continuously recorded as “whites.” Are we in quotation marks because Mikey doesn’t believe that whites really exist and so he says “whites.” Is this the social construct game that CRT so readily excels in? Is Foster going all CRT on us by typing out both “whites” and “non-whites?”

3.) If implicit or explicit calls to lessen or even eradicate the white population (the one time in Foster’s quote where there are not quotation brackets) then I’m pretty sure it is safe to advance the idea that there is a war on white people. I mean, if someone is trying to even just implicitly eradicate me and mine I would never consider that just “kind-of war.”

Michael Foster writes,

Yet I only say “there kind of is a war on whites.” Why? Because I don’t think the main motivation behind it isn’t primarily racial.

McAtee responds,

1.) Look, Sir Hebetude, if it is the case that people are trying to eradicate me and mine then I couldn’t care less what the motivation is. If my clan, tribe, nation, and people are eradicated (Foster’s own chosen word) then I don’t care what the motive is of those seeking to eradicate us. Eradication is eradication regardless of what the motive is.

2 ) When we speak of motivation that implies that there is a someone acting who is animated by this motivation. Who is that someone Mikey? Who is driving this “kind-of war on whites that will leave us eradicated?” Who has that much societal leverage? Who exactly Mikey wants to eradicate white people?

Here is one contestant as being a primary suspect that answers the question of the “Who” that is motivated to eradicate white people.

“I think there’s a resurgence of Anti-semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural, and I think we’re gonna be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.”

Barbara Lerner Specter
Jewish Activist Pushing Sweden

Mikey Foster writes,

“I think the goal is to stirrup racial tensions and particularly bait lower class whites into certain activities/attitudes. But why? To camouflage their real motive and goal. The liberal elite in America, who control the media, have bluntly said that they want to radically restructure the nature of our society. They are pushing for something like a new feudalism. You will own nothing but they will take care of you. That sort of thing. The main thing standing in their way is America’s middle class. We own a lot and we want to take care of ourselves. As a group, our middle class still has more money and influence than the liberal elite. That is something they hate.”

Bret responds,

1.) Of course it is lower class whites who are being baited because no upper class whites could ever enter into certain activities to protect their descendants. It is only the white trailer park trash types, per Mikey, who could possibly be interested in refusing to be “eradicated.” and so be successfully baited.

2.) Here Mikey tries to make this about classically liberal economics. The they who have these motives and goals aren’t really interested in this racial divide except as it serves an economic end. They hate the middle class therefore they will seek to eradicate white people. The clever thing about Mikey’s argument here is that there is likely some truth to it. Cultural Marxists do hate the middle class as well as hating white people. For that matter the Cultural Marxists hate the upper class also. To dismiss Mikey’s argument here just ask yourself whether or not if it were the case that minorities made up the major percentage of the middle class if there would be a war on minorities in order to eradicate them? The question answers itself. This is just Mikey trying to evade the obvious and that is that the real pursuit here is not primarily about eliminating the middle class though the Cultural Marxists certainly desire that. No, the main pursuit is white people. The side benefit to those who are pursuing all this is getting rid of the middle class.

3.) Actually, it is my conviction, as I’ve stated before that the real goal here is to roll Jesus Christ off His throne. The real goal is to rid the West once and forever of Christianity. Now, as it is the white man who has been the main carrier of Civilizational Christianity then of course it is the white man who must be “eradicated.” Rid the West of Christianity and one rids the West of the economic middle class and the white man. However, the enemy can’t do a frontal attack on Christianity so he goes through the back door by arguing that the White man is an oppressor.

Mikey Foster writes,

“Now, it’s hard to demonize the middle class which has long been celebrated in our nation. But it is much easier to demonize a “race” or “color.” And guess what? The American middle class is mostly white. One way the liberal elite can attack and divide the middle class is to create a ruse and proxy war via race-baiting. And it’s working. More and more folks are getting draw away for the real battle-line (largely socioeconomics) to the diversion (race-baiting stuff).”

Bret responds,

1.) It is no more difficult to demonize the middle class than it is to demonize white people in general. History demonstrates that the middle class has been repeatedly demonized. Stalin demonized the Ukrainian Kulaks. Robespierre demonized the shop-keeper middle class.  Indeed, I would argue that it is a bigger lift to demonize a whole race than to demonize the middle class.

2.) The American middle class is mostly white? That’s brilliant. Did you come up with that all by yourself Mikey? Guess what … in a country that is still 70% white it is the also the case that American upper and lower class is mostly white. All of America is mostly white. Well done Sherlock.

3.) Again, this is not about primarily about economics. It is primarily about race and that is true no matter how much Mikey or Tucker Carlson says to the contrary. Now, this is not to say that there are not based minorities who agree with based white people but it is to say that the enemy is going after based white people. If they succeed in pulling down what little is left of Biblical Christianity then the house of the based white man falls and with that falling tumbles also the economics of it all. However, if it were minorities who comprised the middle class you can be sure that none of this would be happening.

4.) If Mikey were to be true to the evidence he would have to enter into the fray supporting both a Christian entrepreneurialism (this current crony Corporatism has to go) and the Christian white man because these two realities are not mutually exclusive. You cannot peal them apart as Mikey is trying to do.

Author: jetbrane

I am a Pastor of a small Church in Mid-Michigan who delights in my family, my congregation and my calling. I am postmillennial in my eschatology. Paedo-Calvinist Covenantal in my Christianity Reformed in my Soteriology Presuppositional in my apologetics Familialist in my family theology Agrarian in my regional community social order belief Christianity creates culture and so Christendom in my national social order belief Mythic-Poetic / Grammatical Historical in my Hermeneutic Pre-modern, Medieval, & Feudal before Enlightenment, modernity, & postmodern Reconstructionist / Theonomic in my Worldview One part paleo-conservative / one part micro Libertarian in my politics Systematic and Biblical theology need one another but Systematics has pride of place Some of my favorite authors, Augustine, Turretin, Calvin, Tolkien, Chesterton, Nock, Tozer, Dabney, Bavinck, Wodehouse, Rushdoony, Bahnsen, Schaeffer, C. Van Til, H. Van Til, G. H. Clark, C. Dawson, H. Berman, R. Nash, C. G. Singer, R. Kipling, G. North, J. Edwards, S. Foote, F. Hayek, O. Guiness, J. Witte, M. Rothbard, Clyde Wilson, Mencken, Lasch, Postman, Gatto, T. Boston, Thomas Brooks, Terry Brooks, C. Hodge, J. Calhoun, Llyod-Jones, T. Sowell, A. McClaren, M. Muggeridge, C. F. H. Henry, F. Swarz, M. Henry, G. Marten, P. Schaff, T. S. Elliott, K. Van Hoozer, K. Gentry, etc. My passion is to write in such a way that the Lord Christ might be pleased. It is my hope that people will be challenged to reconsider what are considered the givens of the current culture. Your biggest help to me dear reader will be to often remind me that God is Sovereign and that all that is, is because it pleases him.

4 thoughts on “Michael Foster’s Evasions … McAtee Evades Foster’s Evasions”

  1. Yes, and amen, to your, ” the real goal is to roll Jesus off of his throne.”
    Maybe more Christians are becoming aware of it, but most days I just see a frustratingly high level of excuse making from conservative Christians for the left.
    Ex, ” well, I see the glaciers receding at a national park I visit.”
    “ESG is just a marketing scheme.”
    “What’s wrong with the feminist studies at a University?”
    All comments from elders.

  2. Environmental Social Governance. It’s the one world order digital credit system. Drive too much? Say good bye to a loan, or your insurance, like the Canadian truck protestors found out. Marketing scheme – is naivete in the face of evil a simulacrum of the verse of being innocent as doves? My deacon called it a marketing scheme because he listens to NPR and that is how he learned about it.

    1. Thank you Kurt. I looked into it and instantly identified it as part of the “stakeholder capitalism” schtick and social credit nonsense now running in China.

      You’re Elder is not a wise man.

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