Bret wrote,
Things done to evil people by good men are by definition “good.”
Justin Johnson replies,
At scale it never works out all good at the micro level. That’s the point.
Not a reason to stop it. But no such shifts can happen without atrocity.
Bret replies,
Justin Johnson .. if it is atrocity that sets the world aright by God’s standard then it is not atrocity at all but blessing.
And God says it always works out for good at the micro level. Always. That is God’s point.
Justin Johnson
Eventually it can. But there is no non messy way that doesn’t harm the innocent.
That’s my point.
Bret responds,
If you’re saying that in war Christians die unjustly … then of course there is no disagreement.
Justin Johnson writes,
That’s true but not what I’m getting at. Collateral damage is not avoidable.
Bret responds,
Yes, Christian’s die unjustly as collateral damage. I agree.
Justin Johnson writes,
Death of all image bearers who aren’t evil is also terrible.
Quit pretending I agree. It’s unbecoming.
There are plenty of non Christians here who do not deserve death or or deportation.
As Lee said it is good war is so terrible or else we would grow too fond of it.
As someone who would never be a participant, and of advanced age, you should be the first to at least acknowledge the inevitable unjust sacrifices in such an endeavor.
Asymmetrical warfare is one of man’s most horrific creations. Whether used for good or evil.
Bret responds
1.) Death of image bearers who renounce and are opposed to Christ is not evil, because they are evil. Rather death is to them God’s justice. See what Jesus said in the Tower of Siloam incident (Luke 13).
2.) Quit being contumacious. It’s unbecoming.
3.) All non-Christians deserve death since the wages of sin is death.
4.) I’d probably agree that all non-Christians shouldn’t be deported though I would insist that they not be allowed to vote or contribute to political campaigns. I would also tax them at a higher rate.
5.) I quite agree w/ Robert E. Lee. What does that have to do w/ this conversation?
6.) I tell the people I serve here ALL THE TIME that war is the very last option that should ever be chosen unless it is the only option in a just war.
I’m sure you’re relieved that I tell them that.
I also tell them not to think in Arminian categories.
When the wicked perish, there are shouts of joy. Proverbs 11:10
Justin Johnson replies,
Not sure where to start with the broad interpretation of such scriptures.
Your hermeneutic is clearly incompatible with mine and I’d guess irreconcilable.
Bret responds,
Justin Johnson … Not to worry … that’s only because your hermeneutic is errant.
😉
Peace
Justin ends with the irresistible and boring ad-hom, “OK Boomer.”
