“These men who are trying to refute pastor Jerry Dorris are playing themselves and showing their foolishness. The irony of these posts is that in their scheme 23-year-old Iryna Zarutska is the actual ‘invader’ as a legal immigrant from the Ukraine and Decarlos Brown, Jr. is their American neighbor.
I am for ICE doing their job, our civil government protecting the border and even restricting legal immigration so that our nation can be preserved. But I’m also for treating individuals with respect and dignity as neighbors by proximity.
These men have lost the plot and are not as the Christians they profess to be.”
Rev. Joseph Spurgeon
1.) This began with Rev. Dorris writing a post saying he was politically against illegal immigration but that did not mean he would refuse to treat illegals as his neighbor. Rev. Dorris was clearly invoking the idea, from the Bible, of being a “good Samaritan.” Rev. Dorris was suggesting that all Christians must treat all illegals as neighbors.
2.) More than a few people (including myself) took exception to that, insisting that Rev. Dorris was making the parable of the Good Samaritan walk on all fours.
3.) Nobody has tried to refute Rev. Dorris as if he has not yet been refuted. Rev. Dorris has been refuted in spades.
4.) The irony that Rev. Spurgeon sees is not ironic in the least. He should know by now that the complaint that nearly all those involved have is not the immigration of white Christians into the nation, such as Zarutska. (She was Eastern Orthodox of some stripe.) The complaint is against bringing in those who are from, as the President has said, “third world fecal holes.”
** – Speaking only for myself, I think it unwise at this point to allow for any immigration at all. We need a period of adjustment.
5.) Decarlos Brown, and numerous other minorities in our country was a neighbor the same way that Ted Bundy or one of the Manson family members would be a neighbor if they moved next door.
6.) What Rev. Spurgeon (and Rev. Doriss) are doing to the parable of the Good Samaritan is they are replacing the poor chap in the parable who was beaten and robbed by the assailants for the assailants themselves who were beaten up because they fell down seeking to flee from the scene of the crime they committed. In that kind of Parable, Jesus would have expected the Good Samaritan to call the authorities to arrest those who had done the robbing.
7.) In the parable of the Good Samaritan it is clear that the chap robbed by the villains was the victim. What Pastors Dorris and Spurgeon are doing is turning the Robbers and Malefactors who did the beating in the Good Samaritan into the victim. In Pastors Dorris and Spurgeon’s world the third world equatorial immigrants who are here and who are bilking the system, who are essentially committing theft on a mass scale, and who are squandering our children’s inheritance by their massive fraud are the ones who are the victims and who need to have all the love and affection given to the genuine victim in the parable of the Good Samaritan. They have inverted the whole meaning of the parable. They have turned the parable of the Good Samaritan into one only a bleeding heart Arminian/Liberal could appreciate.
8.) In doing so Pastors Spurgeon and Dorris are ignoring the Scriptures that teach that one of God’s judgments against His disobedient people is to be cursed with being flooded with the Stranger and the Alien. When Pastors Spurgeon and Dorris write as they do people hear them say that “Christians should embrace God’s curse.” Quite to the contrary Christians who love God and their people will do all they can to not be visited with the curse. Pastors should not push principles (such as treating invaders as “neighbors”) that fault people for not wanting to be under God’s curse and for not wanting to have to live in their land where they are the tail and the stranger and alien is the head. (See Deut. 28:15f)
9.) Nobody, that I have seen in this conversation has denied the necessity of speaking the Gospel to the stranger and the alien while they are here. Nobody has insisted, as far as I can see, that the stranger and the alien are not image bearers of God. But the fact that the alien and the stranger need the Gospel and the fact that they are image bearers of God does not mean that we should become comfortable with the presence of the alien and the stranger in our midst. In point of fact, we should not.
10.) Rev. Spurgeon has been slow witted ever since I came across the good Rev. years ago. We make allowances for such people. However, it is those who are advocating for the kinds of things that Rev. Spurgeon is advocating for who have lost the plot and are not the Christian he professes to be.
11.) What Spurgeon and many like him have missed is that Genocide of the white Christian in the West is being attempted. Immigrants from third world fecal holes are the bombs that are being used in order to replace us. When one is in war one typically does not go out of their way to treat the bomb that is intended to wipe them out as a neighbor.
12.) Pastors like Dorris and Spurgeon are turning the Christian faith into a suicide cult.
This fellow Spurgeon appears to be married to an invader.
“12.) Pastors like Dorris and Spurgeon are turning the Christian faith into a suicide cult.”
That is too harsh. I would say instead that they are making up theological excuses for lazy apathy. The sin of laziness has been studied little, partly because it would be such bothersome labor (irony!)
“Go with the flow and don’t disturb the status quo.” That is the mentality of those people who are not being actively malicious, but just lack the motivation to fight against evil.
And once apathetic laziness truly takes over, it can override even the basic survival instinct, as could be seen even in pre-modern times:
https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/2612/pg2612-images.html#linknoteref-444
“The English sickened and died by hundreds. Even those who were not smitten by the pestilence were unnerved and dejected, and, instead of putting forth the energy which is the heritage of our race, awaited their fate with the helpless apathy of Asiatics. It was in vain that Schomberg tried to teach them to improve their habitations, and to cover the wet earth on which they lay with a thick carpet of fern. Exertion had become more dreadful to them than death.”
Viisaus,
You’re just wrong here.
It isn’t too harsh. When we, as a nation, have gone from 88.6% white in 1970 to 61.6% white in 2020 that is evidence that we, as a people, are being suicided. As of 2021, approximately 20% of first-time marriages in the U.S. are interracial. This marks a significant increase from just 3% in 1967 when interracial marriage was legalized. This is suicide and the Church is partly responsible.