Mike Horton — “People Who Believe in Christian Nationalism are Heretics”

“The problem with Christian nationalism is not that some Christians are taking a biblical idea too seriously, but that they are confusing America with Israel under the old covenant. From a biblical perspective, it’s actually heretical. It confuses the law with the gospel.”

Dr. Mike Horton
Training your future Pastors

Heretic at West-Cal

 

Here is just one problem. If one asserts, as Horton does, that Nations can not be Christian … that it is impossible for a Nation to be Christian then the only other option left is that all Nations are non-Christian. By absenting Christianity from any possibility to so influence a nation that it might be considered “Christian,” is to ensure that Islam, Judaism, Secular Humanism, Shintoism, Confucianism, Taoism, and any other religion you might name to be the governing authority in the various nations. By eliminating Christianity as being the faith force of a nation Horton creates a vacuum that some other religion will finally fill.

Religion as the guiding force for every nation is an inescapable category. We know this because the laws of a nation always descend from and are reflective of some ultimate faith expression. Laws give a nation and its people an “oughtness.” That “oughtness” comes from somewhere and that somewhere is either demon fallen man as God (Legal Positivism) or comes from demon Allah as God (Sharia) or the Jewish demon God as God (Talmud), etc. etc. etc. So, inasmuch as laws are the residual manifestation of some religion in that much the laws of all nations reflect the religious commitment of the nation that crafts and adopts those laws and so declares that nations are hopelessly religious.

So when Heretic Horton says that it is impossible for a Nation to be Christian he is at the same time insisting that all nations must serve some other God or god concept besides the God of the Bible.

The man is at best an idiot and at worst a heretic. He has no business getting within 100 yards of a Seminary lectern or a Church pulpit. His Christianity is damnable stuff.

Man’s Creatureliness

Is 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
 
 
When Moses asked God His name (Exodus 3:13-14), Moses was asking God to define and limit Himself, but as God is He who is the one who defines and is defined by nothing or no one God responded to Moses by merely saying “I am who I am.” This answer communicated that God, being the Creator, could not be contained in the definitional categories of the creature.  
 
 
 
When man insists that he is like God inasmuch as he can’t be defined man is seeking to en-god himself and de-god God. We see this when man seeks to strip himself of all the definition which God has assigned to man. For example, when man insists that his gender, race, ethnicity, or genetics are irrelevant man has denied God’s definitional categories in favor of his own definitional categories and by doing so has resolved to be the Most High. 
 
 
 
Man’s desire is to be his own “I Am,” and when he reaches to be his own “I am” man destroys himself since for man to reach beyond his limits to be other than who he has been created to be is self-abnegating. It is akin to the goldfish finally achieving his goal to transcend his fishbowl. The success of such transcendence is the goldfish’s destruction.

What we learn from this is that man loses his manishness when he seeks to ascend to the most high. We also learn that God the creator will forever be beyond the creature’s ability to define or delimit God exhaustively.

Refreshing Honesty … Excerpt from Michael Swift’s Essay; Gay Revolutionary

You think we’re sinful
You fight against our rights
You say we all lead live you can’t respect
But you’re just frightened
You think that we’ll corrupt your kids
If our agenda goes unchecked
Funny, just this once, you’re correct

We’ll convert your children
Happens bit by bit
Quietly and subtlely
And you will barely notice it
You can keep them from disco
Warn about San Francisco
Make ’em wear pleated pants
We don’t care…
We’ll convert your children…
We’ll make them tolerant and fair

Just like you worriеd
They’ll change their group of friеnds
You won’t approve of where they go at night
(to protests)
Oh, and you’ll be disgusted
(so gross)
When they start finding things online
That you’ve kept far from their sight
(like information…)
Guess what?
You’ll still be alright!

We’ll convert your children
Reaching one and all
There’s really no escaping it
’cause even grandma likes Rupaul
And the world’s getting kinder
Gen Z’s gayer than Grindr
Learn to love
Learn to vogue
Face your fate!
We’ll convert your children
Someone’s gotta teach them not to hate

We’re coming for them
We’re coming for your children
We’re coming for them
We’re coming for them
We’re coming for your children
For your children

You’re children will care about
Fairness and justice for others
Your children will work to convert
All their sisters and brothers
Then, soon, we’re almost certain
You’re kids will start convertin’ you!

The gay agenda is coming home
The gay agenda is here!

But you don’t have to worry
’cause there’s nothing wrong with
Standing by our side
Get on board in a hurry
Because the world always needs
A bit more pride

But you don’t have to worry
’cause there’s nothing wrong with
Standing by our side
(The Gay Agenda)
Get on board in a hurry
Because the world always needs
A bit more pride
(The Gay Agenda)

Come on, try a little pride!

We’ll convert your children
Then we’ll turn to you
Giving up the fear inside
Is freeing like you never knew!

“We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us.

Women, you cry for freedom. You say you are no longer satisfied with men; they make you unhappy. We, connoisseurs of the masculine face, the masculine physique, shall take your men from you then. We will amuse them; we will instruct them; we will embrace them when they weep.

Women, you say you wish to live with each other instead of with men. Then go and be with each other. We shall give your men pleasures they have never known because we are foremost men too, and only one man knows how to truly please another man; only one man can understand the depth and feeling, the mind and body of another man.

All laws banning homosexual activity will be revoked. Instead, legislation shall be passed which engenders love between men.

All homosexuals must stand together as brothers; we must be united artistically, philosophically, socially, politically and financially. We will triumph only when we present a common face to the vicious heterosexual enemy.

If you dare to cry faggot, fairy, queer, at us, we will stab you in your cowardly hearts and defile your dead, puny bodies.

We shall write poems of the love between men; we shall stage plays in which man openly caresses man; we shall make films about the love between heroic men which will replace the cheap, superficial, sentimental, insipid, juvenile, heterosexual infatuations presently dominating your cinema screens. We shall sculpt statues of beautiful young men, of bold athletes which will be placed in your parks, your squares, your plazas. The museums of the world will be filled only with paintings of graceful, naked lads.

Our writers and artists will make love between men fashionable and de rigueur, and we will succeed because we are adept at setting styles. We will eliminate heterosexual liaisons through usage of the devices of wit and ridicule, devices which we are skilled in employing.

We will unmask the powerful homosexuals who masquerade as heterosexuals. You will be shocked and frightened when you find that your presidents and their sons, your industrialists, your senators, your mayors, your generals, your athletes, your film stars, your television personalities, your civic leaders, your priests are not the safe, familiar, bourgeois, heterosexual figures you assumed them to be. We are everywhere; we have infiltrated your ranks. Be careful when you speak of homosexuals because we are always among you; we may be sitting across the desk from you; we may be sleeping in the same bed with you.

There will be no compromises. We are not middle-class weaklings. Highly intelligent, we are the natural aristocrats of the human race, and steely-minded aristocrats never settle for less. Those who oppose us will be exiled.

We shall raise vast private armies, as Mishima did, to defeat you. We shall conquer the world because warriors inspired by and banded together by homosexual love and honor are invincible as were the ancient Greek soldiers.

The family unit-spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy, and violence–will be abolished. The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in a communal setting, under the control and instruction of homosexual savants.

All churches who condemn us will be closed. Our only gods are handsome young men. We adhere to a cult of beauty, moral and esthetic. All that is ugly and vulgar and banal will be annihilated. Since we are alienated from middle-class heterosexual conventions, we are free to live our lives according to the dictates of the pure imagination. For us too much is not enough.

The exquisite society to emerge will be governed by an elite comprised of gay poets. One of the major requirements for a position of power in the new society of homoeroticism will be indulgence in the Greek passion. Any man contaminated with heterosexual lust will be automatically barred from a position of influence. All males who insist on remaining stupidly heterosexual will be tried in homosexual courts of justice and will become invisible men.

“We shall rewrite history, history filled and debased with your heterosexual lies and distortions. We shall portray the homosexuality of the great leaders and thinkers who have shaped the world. We will demonstrate that homosexuality and intelligence and imagination are inextricably linked, and that homosexuality is a requirement for true nobility, true beauty in a man.

“We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual shows throughout the ages. We too are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate revolution.

Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks.”

No Christ … No Liberty

The non-Christian can not know liberty. He will say he knows liberty but what he is calling liberty is just some form of licentiousness. The non-Christian can not know liberty because he is a man in bondage to his sin and as being in bondage to his sin all he will create in the name of liberty are social order institutions that reflect his bondage to sin.

Only the Christian who has been set free from the bondage of sin by the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross can talk sanely about freedom, liberty, and independence. That is because they understand that their freedom, liberty, and independence means a freedom to obey Christ which they could never do before, a liberty to walk in righteousness which they could never do before, and an independence from the bondage which was characteristic of their life outside of Christ.

There is no social order Liberty that can long be maintained by a people who have abjured Christ and foresworn Christianity. No social order freedom to be had by a Church which disconnects the lifeline between freedom from sin and freedom from wicked governments and magistrates.

Social order liberty is the God-given inheritance bequeathed to a people set free from sin and gathered in resolve to incarnate that liberty in all their social order institutions.

A post-Christian world that blathers on about “liberty,” “freedom,” and “independence,” don’t know what they are talking about.

Taking Up Dr. Greg Johnson’s Offer to View His Post PCA GA Sermon — An Open Letter

Dr. Greg Johnson – he of same-sex attracted sodomite but celibate fame – invited on his Twitter feed to view his first sermon following the gathering of his denomination to discuss his curiosities. He insisted that it was going to be pure on Gospel, and as I am the guy who is forever bending over to give people the benefit of the doubt I did watch his sermon… twice. This is my commentary on that sermon.

1.)  “While the ex-gay movement is dead, its cadaver walks about undead among us. Its presence was palpable (at PCA GA).”

Greg Johnson
Sodomite & Celibate but still experiencing same-sex attraction and taking the attitude that is perfectly fine and even something to broadcast as a normative thing.

I believe in this quote from his sermon we hear Johnson’s main problem. He is absolutely convinced that he cannot be delivered from same-sex attraction. Being delivered from same-sex attraction is what the “ex-gay movement” taught. Johnson basically says deliverance from the experience of the sin of same-sex attraction is IMPOSSIBLE and as such people who experience same-sex attraction should be free to live with that experience as normative. Some of Johnson’s cohorts (though not Johnson himself) have even spoken about “gay culture” being brought into the kingdom of heaven…. that “gay culture” can be redeemed as “gay culture” and be part of the new creation.

Johnson has all kinds of “evidence” for his position and much of that evidence will be seen in his new book coming out soon. The problem is that I am slow to believe the evidence he will be providing (I have heard some of it in an interview that was done with the good Dr. Johnson) just as I am slow to believe the evidence that those who are shrieking about climate change want to provide. Dr. Johnson has an axe to grind and I do not believe any evidence that suggests that God cannot take what is twisted (homo attractions) and straighten it out so that hetero attractions arise.

2.) Johnson, in his sermon, subtly went after Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary by referencing repeatedly the problem with “Sothern pietistic moralism.”

This is important to note. Those who are occupying the Pink Mafia in the PCA view their enemies as being the conservatives and they will do anything they can to castigate this enemy.  I suspect that the only reason that Johnson believes he has a problem with Southern Pietistic moralism is that he is, 1.) Not Southern, 2.) Not Pietistic, and 3.) Not moral.

3.) Johnson clearly has the “Christ for us” down. His sermon was wonderful on this score. It is the kind of sermon that the sinner who has been smitten by God’s law needs to hear. It is the kind of sermon that the Christian needs to hear who is becoming ever more conversant with his own sin. I tip my cap to Dr. Johnson for his clear articulation of Christ for sinners, Christ in the place of sinners, and Christ as the sinner’s righteousness.

However, St. Paul in Romans also says in the starkest fashion possible that Christians should not go on sinning that grace may abound. St. Paul teaches that sin shall no longer be the Christian’s master.

So, while we praise God that the Gospel is a good news declaration of what God has accomplished in Christ in the stead of the elect we note that the good news of Jesus Christ includes deliverance not only from the presence of sin but also from the power of sin. The Gospel includes the word about the ongoing renewing work of Christ in us by the living power of the Holy Ghost who works in us the renewing of our minds so that one does not return like a dog to his vomit to one’s old sins of experiencing same-sex attraction. That Greg didn’t articulate so well in this sermon.

Does Greg ever articulate in his sermons that Christians are

22 to put off your old self,[a] which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, 23 and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, 24 and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.

In his sermon I listened to Greg insisted that (paraphrasing here) the Gospel is not to make us think we are good people but that we are bad people who have been rescued by a good saviour. There is truth to this. A good deal of truth. So much truth that if this was left out of a Christian’s understanding it would be tragic. However, the Gospel has a sanctifying effect so that we bad people are no longer as bad as we once were. While on one level Greg, it is true that we are not better than a Jeffrey Dahmer (an illustration that Greg used), it is also true on another level that a converted Jeffrey Dahmer himself experienced such renewal that he could say that he was no longer the man he once was. Spirit wrought sanctification makes a difference my dear Brother in Christ and if you can’t find the capacity to admit that in relation to your sinful same-sex experiences then at the very least you have a profound misunderstanding of the Christian faith and at the very worst you yet remain outside of Christ.

So, Johnson has down the idea that we all forever are sinners in need of grace. Who could disagree?

What Johnson doesn’t have down is that the Spirit in sanctification works in us incrementally but unalterably increasing Christlikeness so that we can be described as “God’s workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works.”

4.) Dr. Greg Johnson complains about Christians who think they are “good people” but the irony here is that Johnson sees himself as superior to those “good people” because he finds his goodness in his lack of being good.

It is a good warning to all of us to avoid self-righteousness and the temptation to look down on others because we are not like other people who are sinners (Luke 18:11). Thank you for that warning Dr. Johnson.

However, if I may, I suggest that you have not avoided this yourself. The conviction of your own superiority vis-a-vis those putative vainglorious Southern pietistic moralists was palpable. It is not hard in the least Greg to envision hearing you pray nightly, “Lord I thank you that I am not like this Southern pietist moralist. I go around admitting my most shameful sin and freely admit that my condition is hopeless.”

5.) “Today the church is feeling the tensions of a new rigorous aggressive legalism on one side of the church and a falling away into unbelief on the other side.” Dr. Greg Johnson – 04 July 2021 Sermon

Let’s keep in mind Greg that legalism is the idea that men are seeking to be saved by the keeping of God’s law in its total demand. Legalism teaches that we are so exacting in our obedience to God’s law that we can reasonably demand of God salvation that we have earned by our law-keeping expertise.

Given that definition, Greg do you really think your Presbyterian opponents are going all legalistic? Do you really believe that your opponents think that they have reached this state of perfection or is it instead the case that you are just reaching for any handy club in order to beat off those who dare disagree with you? I’m pretty confident that this is a case where legalism is being defined as “anyone who dares disagree with Greg Johnson.”

Greg, I can be pretty caustic and sarcastic at times but allow me to put that aside for just a second. Greg, your position puts you in an even more dangerous situation than your average pew sitter. You are considered a leader and clearly, there is a whole train of people who see you as their leader.  Greg, if you keep heading in this direction the weight of the damage that you do to yourself and others is incalculable. Won’t you please at the very least reconsider your position?

I do not doubt you could be in Christ. I also have no doubt that what you’re teaching could be absolutely soul damning in your life and the life of those following you. For the love of God, others, and yourself please repent.