Reformed Baptist Ironies (or) Things we’d Like Reformed Baptists to Think About

There is an inescapable irony to tell people that grace is irresistible and unconditional only to tell people that infants can’t be baptized because they aren’t old enough to meet the condition of showing that irresistible grace wasn’t resisted.

Dabney on Forgiveness without Restitution

At the General Assembly of the Southern Presbyterian Church in 1870, many attendees who had been cucked by Lincoln’s War spoke of a union with the Northern Presbyterian Church, but a few steadfastly objected to the union. Some of the men implored Dabney to speak, knowing that if anyone could stave off the assault, then Dabney could. He repeatedly refused, because he was the Moderator, and it was considered inappropriate for the Moderator to insert himself into the discussion. Finally, he’d had all he could stomach.

Dr. E.M. Green says this:

“[Dabney] was on his feet in a moment. He began this way:”

“Mr. Chairman, I feel as if I were talking to people across a river a mile wide. If you are pleased with such speeches as you have been listening to, it is useless for me to express my thoughts. I do not profess to be as good as some people; I hear brethren saying it is time to forgive. Mr. Chairman, I do not forgive. I do not try to forgive. What, forgive those people who invaded our country, burned our cities, destroyed our homes, slain our young men, and spread desolation and ruin over our land? No, I do not forgive them. But you say, “They have changed their feelings towards us, and are kind.” And why should they not be kind? Have we ever done anything to make them feel unkind to us? Have we ever harmed or wronged them? They are amiable and peaceful, are they? And is not the gorged tiger amiable and peaceful? When he has filled himself with the calf he has devoured, he lies down in a kind, good humor; but wait till he has digested his meal, and will he not be fierce again? Will he not be a tiger again? They have gorged themselves with everything they could take from us. They have gained everything they tried to get, they have conquered us, they have destroyed us. Why should they not be amiable and kind? Do you believe that the same old tiger nature is not in them? Just wrest from them anything they have taken from us, and see.”

Dr. Green reported, “In that way, he went on for an hour. I never heard such a philippic. I was frightened. I believed every word he said, but I thought I never encountered before such a terrible* man.”

[Back in the day “terrible” meant fierce, awesome, formidable.]

The Usage of Race & Class To Pursue the New World Order

In the recent past, I’ve seen both Tucker Carlson and Gary DeMar argue that what is going on in America is not about a Racial divide but rather is about class warfare. I view this as a false dichotomy. It can be both a race war and class warfare. Clearly, as the Cultural Marxists advocated long ago, Minorities have been successfully recruited to be the new proletariat in the neo-Marxist scheme of the Gramscian Marxists. However, combined with majority swaths of minorities making up the new proletariat (replacing the worker class of Marx’s classical Marxism) we also find white perverts, white feminists, white academics, and “white” Talmudists. This combination allows enough white people in that it can be argued that our current social upheaval isn’t really about race. However, that is not accurate. The White people in the groups listed above, as part of the new proletariat, have the same interests as the minority element in this new proletariat coalition. Indeed, one could easily argue that the whole cross-section of this new proletariat is merely that which Saul Alinksy said was required to make a revolution. What they each and all have in common is a hatred for Biblical Christianity.

So, the current Revolution does remain a matter of race. but not without at the same time being a matter of class warfare. The mega-Corporatists are using the new proletariat to make war on America’s middle class with the goal of eliminating the middle class so that we have a have and have-not society. The irony of this is found in that many in the Revolutionary new proletariat vanguard will end up remaining among the have nots so that the Revolution they are chanting and rioting for will not advance their economic standing one whit.

We can see all this as existing in the base of each party. The Democrats are appealing to the minority base as well as a base of the victimized (White Feminists, perverts, Academics, etc.) seeking to cobble together a coalition of Saul Alinsky voters while at the same time being bankrolled by the mega-Corporatist of Silicon Valley, Hollywood, and Wall Street.

The Republican Party in the meantime is appealing to white voters and is hearkening to middle-class issues (Payroll Tax cuts, Law & Order, America First, etc.).

So, what we see brewing here is the worst of all storms. The Revolution in our streets is both a race war and the pursuit of class warfare and anybody who tells you it is one to the neglect of the other just hasn’t pondered long enough on the matter.

Most often, the polite Right says “race war is merely a proxy for class war.” But reading the Marxist architects themselves, it is plainly just the opposite — class war is actually a proxy for race war.

Obviously underneath all of this class warfare and race war reality is the fact that greater fact that all of this is first and foremost a religious war. Race and class are merely tools being used by the Christ haters to pull Christ off His throne. If racial and class harmony could pull Christ off His throne you can be sure the Christ haters would champion for racial and class harmony at every turn. However, in these times the way to imagine that one can dethrone Christ is by ginning up race and class warfare. Only by setting men at each other’s throats is the opportunity afforded to completely rid social orders of any remnant of Christ as King.

Corporeality & Covenantal Standing … A Question From Bulgaria

“Is there anything in the material composition of man which defines and determines his covenantal standing before God — be it salvation,etc. … ? If a person says, “yes, there is” he is a heretic and he must be excluded from Christian fellowship.”

 

Bojidar Marinov
2015

Note that Bojidar has said here that those who believe in the absolute necessity of Jesus Christ for salvation are a heretic. You see no one can be saved apart from the material composition of Jesus Christ being very man of very man. The Scripture teaches expressly that all of our covenant standing before God is dependent upon the material composition of man. If Christ is not very man of very man we are without hope.

Furthermore, as God only saves Adam’s race my covenantal standing before God and so my salvation is absolutely dependent on my material composition. God does not save spirit beings. God, in Christ, only saves men, — body and soul. Nobody saved is non-corporal and immaterial. If I am not a material being I cannot be saved.

Then there is the whole matter of covenant theology which does teach that our children, in their material composition, are members of the covenant precisely because they are the children of believers. The fact that children of believers are children of believers in their material composition does determine their covenantal standing before God as in the covenant, and that as ordered and commanded by God.

Obviously, nothing about any of this denies “Grace alone.” It is just to affirm that non-corporeal, material beings can not be saved

So … who is the heretic and who needs to be excluded from Christian fellowship?

Twin Spin Plus One … McAtee Getting Rational With Doug Wilson

“The basic argument of the book is that Christian Reconstructionism isn’t dead. It has been renewed. It has been simplified. A lot of the rough edges have been removed. A lot of the really controversial claims of the first generation have been either downplayed or denied and as Doug Wilson put it in an interview I did with him; ‘What is being so successful now in North Idaho is not so much Christian Reconstruction 2.0 but Christian Reconstruction 0.5.'”

Gathered from Canon Calls Interview with Crawford Gribben
Author — Survival and Resistance in Evangelical America; Christian Reconstruction in the Pacific Northwest

This makes a point that I’ve been screaming about for some time. Wilson, in his usual attempted clever fashion, admits that he is not advancing classic Reconstruction thought. Wilson admits that he has watered down historic Reconstruction thought and sanded off the supposed rough edges so as to make Christian Reconstruction more palatable.

This seems to be the modus operandi of Wilson. Remember, Wilson used to confess that when it came to Federal Vision he was “the pale ale variety,” compared to the heavy stout version. So, with Federal Vision (which Wilson has putatively subsequently recanted upon) and with Reconstructionism Wilson likes to water down the theological and ideological hooch making it palatable to women and children so they can think they are like their Fathers. One is tempted at this point to make some kind of point that Wilson and his followers are forever drinking but never getting drunk.

To whom is Wilson’s Reconstructionism 0.5 more palatable? What other answer can there be to that but to say that Wilson has made it more palatable to those on the left — that is those on the right side of the left who would never have embraced historic Reconstructionist thought have been gathered in by Wilson’s watered-down Recon hooch. You know the types – they are the ones always complaining that “Rushdoony is just so harsh.”

The way that I’ve tried to say this in the past is that Wilson is not on the right but rather Wilson is on the right side of the Left. Doug’s appeal is to the “we never quite made it to the status of ‘Arts and Croissants’ crowd, but we have aspirations.”

By reducing the potency of Christian Reconstructionism to 0.5 Wilson is offering up an unstable product. The only way Reconstructionism’s potency could be cut is by denying the anti-thesis and by adding elements foreign to the original expression.

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“The Great Reset is not going to happen.”

Doug Wilson

Famous Prognosticator

This is culled from this 6-minute video

I learned long ago by listening to Rushdoony that it is not a good idea to make hard predictions. Rush, like Wilson above, was prone to making predictions that when listening 20 years later to RJR’s lectures are just laughable.

Can you imagine some pop Christian in 1917 standing up and saying, “The Russian Revolution won’t happen?”

Or in 1957 some ersatz Christian authoritatively declaims, “The Maoist “Great Leap Forward” won’t’ happen?

Or in 1797 some Christian with the “gift” of prophecy opines to his followers, “The French Revolution won’t happen?”

Now, I’m as postmill as the next postmillennialist but I’m not so postmill that I have to engage in pollyanna-ism concerning the future.

Postmillennialism does not require us to engage in happy talk about the future. God is sovereign over the affairs of men but that does not mean, contra the amazing predictive powers of Doug Wilson, that Job won’t suffer unspeakable trauma.

Please understand me here. I am not saying that the “Great Reset” is going to happen. I am not saying that the Globalist powers will win out in 2021 the way they did in 1798, 1830, 1848, 1861, 1918, 1949, etc. What I am saying, contra Wilson, is that God being sovereign over the affairs of men does not mean that God will not judge His enemies and not chasten His friends by sending “the Great Reset.”

I agree in the end that attacks upon God can never be ultimately successful in the course of World History, but I am here to tell you that if the tower of Babel could happen and if the Marxists Revolutions of the 19th-20th centuries could happen then the Great Reset could happen and could last for an indeterminable time and God wouldn’t be any less God if it did. After all, it’s not like the West does not deserve to be judged and/or chastened.

Wilson is whistling past the graveyard (again) with this one. God still chastens those He loves.

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“Did not Joe and Kamala not make a hash out of Afghanistan?”

Doug Wilson

In point of fact... “No, Joe and Kamala did not make a hash out of Afghanistan.” Everything that is happening in Afghanistan is precisely what they wanted to happen.

Doug seems to think that Joe and Kamala have the interests of these USA in mind in terms of policy. Doug couldn’t be more wrong.

People are trying to turn Wilson into some kind of “conservative” Christian guru and I’m here to tell you that the Wilson well is empty as far as that project goes.