“I am not a crook.”
Richard Milhouse Nixon
“There is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe and there never will be under a Ford administration.”
Gerald Rudolph Ford
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false.”
William Jefferson Blythe Clinton
“In other words, he (Rev. Jeremiah Wright) has never been my political adviser; he’s been my pastor. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn.”
Senator Barack Hussein Obama
If anybody believes Barack Hussein Obama on this score they will believe anything. Remember Barack Hussein Obama has attended Wright’s Church since he was 26 years old. We are to supposed to believe that Obama never ever heard Wright speak the way that he has been caught speaking on countless occasions?
Please, Mr. & Mrs. American Electorate let’s not be stupid.
By Reformed categories not telling the full truth in order to cover ones tracks, which is what you’ve described Obama as doing, is lying.
If ‘seek justice at every turn’ is equivalent to ‘hate whitey because he is (putatively) being unjust’ then clearly Obama is a liar.
But then almost all modern politicians are (and probably most ancient ones … it’s part of the calling.)
Bret
Well the Father angle is interesting, and given the mindset of politicians certainly within the realm of possibility.
If men do not have the duty to disclose their evil intentions then I don’t know how you could say that anybody ever lies when they are seeking to avoid disclosing those evil intentions.
In the end though, to suggest, as he has, that he did not know this kind of speech was going on or else he would have repudiated it (see recent Fox interview w/ Journalist with the name ‘Major’) is just bald face lying.
Thanks for visiting Scholastic.
Am I recalling correctly in putting the name ‘Mike’ with Scholastic?
Obama may seem sincere, but he definitely sat through over twenty years of that hate America, hate Whitey, America is to blame for EVERYTHING BULL****!
It explains perfectly his refusal to wear the American Flag pin, The Che Guevara /Cuban flags flying in his campaign offices (but not the American flag), his refusal to pledge allegiance or honor the flag during the National Anthem to the United States and definitely explains his wifes “BEING PROUD FOR THE FIRST TIME” comment. Folks, this man WITH HIS OWN HAND, listed this VERY pastor as a mentor in his life, and not only that DECLARED a self professed and Kremlin placed COMMUNIST as his MOST INFLUENTIAL MENTORS IN HIS LIFE….YOU FOLKS STILL WONDERING WHAT HE MEANS BY CHANGE? His ideals are ideals that pee on the graves of every patriot who spilled their blood on the battlefields of LIBERTY against such ideologies that he FAVORS…wake up, you sleepers…your being conned by a very articulate and friendly politician, but a leftist all the same.
comment by X by way of pvt correspondence
Well, if he thinks he is helping his patient BY LYING like a Father to his child we have more of a problem then if he is just LYING like your garden variety liar.
Bret
Ok… you’re right… he wasn’t lying…
HE’S INSANE
Insane if he actually see’s himself as the floater in your scenario. Likewise any portion of the American electorate that views Obama as the floaters is insane. However, insanity, as subjective condition, does not negate the reality of the objective truth of lying. In other words, even if he is insane and doesn’t think he is lying, that doesn’t mean he isn’t lying. Lying isn’t related to his subjective intent. Lying is related to those objective conditions named by God and violated by man — even the insane. Naturally given your example, we could at least say that Obama doesn’t think he is lying, or Obama doesn’t look at it as lying but that doesn’t mean it isn’t lying.
Obama and the current political class are not the floaters. Rather they are the murderers in pursuit of the American people.
Scholastic ended by noting,
“Does Obama’s relation as candidate put him under obligation to be more forthcoming than the wide mental reservation which he used? Not according to American tradition.”
Again our standard for lying must not be ‘America Tradition.’ Our standard for lying must be the Word of God who not only weighs the actions of those living within the American Tradition but judges the American Tradition as a whole (and finds it wanting).
The whole ‘ Obama didn’t lie given the reality of the American Tradition’ idea is just another way of saying that ‘everybody lies therefore lying is OK.’
I don’t think so.
Thanks Scholastic…always engaging,
Bret
Sure… I agree with this but all you’re saying is that their warped worldview warps every concept and every word that one drops into it. That is manifestly true. But we do not adjudicate their faults (lying in this case) on the basis of the consistencies of those faults w/i their warped worldview but rather we adjudicate their faults on the basis of real reality.
Second, following Romans 1:18-32 I would say at some level he certainly can see his errors. Romans teaches that fallen man suppresses the truth in unrighteousness. Therefore I would say that while B. Hussein Obama would insist that he doesn’t know, he indeed does know, and as such he will be held accountable for the lies he is telling.
Please… he’s no exception and you know it. One doesn’t get to this level by being an exception. He is a neo-liberal Theocrat who is expounding a black liberation social gospel theology. He learned his trade from a chap named Saul Alinsky (socialist Academic agitator) and BHO intent is, to put it quite bluntly, to put the black man on top of whitey.
The press howls with even a whiff of alleged Conservative theocrats impacting the election process but let a neo-liberal black liberation theology social gospeler theocrat come along and no questions are raised (at least thus far) about His Theology, His politics, or his ideology.
Not that he would give an honest answer anyway. The guy is a perfect lawyer. Even his recent denials of Wright were spoken in perfect lawyer speak. Kind of reminds one of Clinton’s “It all depends what the meaning of ‘is’ is.
The whole process has got me close to depressed, given that these people (Clinton, Obama, McCain, Huckabee, etc.) really are a suitable reflection of what America is.