Exposing Matt Walsh’s Lousy Apologetics

I just learned this morning that the talking head, Matt Walsh, has repeatedly said that when dealing with an Atheist it is stupid to “Biblethump them,” to “throw Scripture at them,” or to “quote Scripture” at them. Matt Walsh basis all that on the fact that since as Atheists the Atheist doesn’t believe the Word of God, therefore it is useless to quote Scripture at them. According to Matt Walsh, we must instead, use “logic,” and “reason.”

This is stupid but consistent with all those who are Natural Law Thomist types.

What might we say in response to this in order to see how stupid it is?

1.) Matt Walsh fails to understand what the underlying issue is as existing between the Atheist and the Christian when in debate/conversation. This issue isn’t so much what is immediately on the table. The issue is, “By whose authority are we going to determine the rightness or wrongness of whatever is being disputed.” The Atheist says to Matt Walsh … “I don’t accept your authority.” Matt Walsh says … “OK, then, I will agree to use your fallen authority as my authority.”What Matt Walsh has done by insisting that we shouldn’t Biblethump people is he has ceded the territory that counts the most. He has ceded to the Christ-hater the standard that will be used to determine truth. Now, if Matt Walsh does that … if Matt Walsh enters the dispute on the enemies chosen ground does Matt Walsh think he is going to be able to gainsay the Atheist? No … a thousand times “NO.” If the Christians abandons his Christian presuppositions in order to argue according to the humanist presuppositions, the Christian will lose every time.

2.) Logic and reason are what they are because of the authority of God’s Word. In other words Logic and reason, apart from presupposing God’s Word, quickly becomes illogical logic and irrational reason. Now, we can certainly make points against our Atheist friend without quoting chapter and verse but behind whatever point we are making better be a foundation that is anchored in Scripture or a necessary consequence thereof.

3.) Matt Walsh, being Roman Catholic, does not understand the noetic effects of the fall and as such does not embrace total depravity. For Matt Walsh (like all Thomists) man’s mind is not completely fallen and so quite without submission to God’s authority (whether implicit or explicit). Fallen man (like our Atheist friend) can be convinced about matters like Abortion, or Sodomite marriage, if we only make “reasonable” arguments per his self-centered standard. This appeal to “Natural Law” done by Matt Walsh and his Thomist friends fails to understand that as man is fallen, man uses his fallen thinking as a prism through which to see all issues that come before him. What Matt Walsh doesn’t realize is that the Atheist is not coming to the issue in a neutral fashion. The Atheist has skin in the came (his own autonomous authority that finds him being god in his life) and if we cede to the atheist the idea that we have to accept his putative neutral authority as the authority the Atheist will never convert because the very thing that needs to be challenged in the Atheist (his autonomous humanist reason) remains unchallenged, and so in authority over God’s authority.

4.) Matt Walsh, like all Thomists, has not only given up leveraging Scripture against the Atheist, he has also given up Scripture for himself. Matt Walsh is ignoring the passage in Romans 1 where the Holy Spirit clearly teaches that the Atheist is “suppressing the truth in unrighteousness.” The Atheist is not an honest player in this discussion. His carnal mind is at warfare with God. Part of the Atheist’s plan for victory is to get “Christians” like Matt Walsh to broom out of the conversation the authority of God’s Word from the very beginning. In such a way the Atheist’s victory is assured in whatever dispute is at hand.

5.) What the Atheist needs to be told, when demanding that Scripture isn’t going to convince him, is, “I know. Now let me tell you why Scripture isn’t going to convince you. God’s Word, apart from the Holy Spirit’s regenerating power, is not going to convince you Mr. Atheist, because you are dead in your trespasses and sins. You are in rebellion against your maker and being in rebellion you will not submit to His authority. This leaves you without God and without hope. This leaves you continuing to try to escape what you know you can never escape as long as you’re in this defiance mode and that is that you are under God’s wrath and being under God’s just wrath against your sin you’re violently doing all you can to escape your sin, guilt and misery. You will not have God and His Word rule over you. Thus, I quite agree you can’t be convinced apart from the power of the Holy Spirit working in your life. The Holy Spirit, Mr. Atheist, was sent to convict people like you of sin, righteousness, and the judgment to come. Still, I have some hope. My hope is that you will finally see and admit to yourself your sin, guilt and misery and go to the only one who can set you free from that which has you so burdened and heavy laden. Mr. Atheist that one is Jesus Christ who God set forth as the one who alone can turn away God’s just wrath upon you and for the first time in your life give you peace with God. You see, Mr. Atheist, Jesus Christ died for sinners, and carried the guilt of particular sinners and now God commands you Mr. Atheist to finally give up your rebellion and flee to the only place where you can be once and forever done with your hatred of God, hatred of others, and hatred of self. Only upon crying out to God for rescue, will you understand and accept the clear teaching of Scripture on the matter we are in dispute. Won’t you please repent?”

For those who want to see this teased out even more, I highly recommend this article by Cornelius Van Til;

https://www.apologeticscentral.org/post/mr-grey-mr-black-and-mr-white-by-cornelius-van-til-with-commentary

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3 thoughts on “Exposing Matt Walsh’s Lousy Apologetics”

  1. I love that section from CVT in his book Defense of the Faith…. and the entire book.

    The natural man understands not the things of the Spirit. The carnal [unregenerate] mind is at ear with God. So how do we get around this impasse? Well, our method must be consistent with our convictions. We over and presuppose God in our message. It is by the foolishness of preaching that men are converted. Proper preaching is not like teaching where we might compare and contrast. It is being heralds of Christ’s Kingdom reign. It is a proclamation. And our message is “Kiss the Son, lest He be angry and you perish”. Our message is a message calling men to surrender, to bow the knee to the King of all kings. It is a message to be reconciled to the One we have offended by our sinful condition and the transgressions flowing from it. We proclaim the Day of God’s favor and release. We command men everywhere to repent, fall on their faces and beg God for even as the publican did, “God be merciful to me the sinner.” We most certainly do NOT bring God before the bar of Man to be accepted by our reason. The gospel is a call to repentance and surrender. The first words Saul of Tarsus said after Jesus identified himself to him was: “Lord, what will you have me to do?” That’s surrender. We cast the crown of our autonomy before His feet all around the glassy sea of His propitiated tranquility. No man can say: “Jesus is Lord” but by the working of the Spirit. This is a sovereign and wonderous work of His Spirit who confirms His Word man’s reason. From start to finish, it is His work. This is the work of God, that we believe on Him whom He sent. Salvation is of the Lord.

    Thomism denies the true gospel. Thomism denies God’s indictment of man as entirely fallen in body, mind and spirit. It denies the Antithesis. It is anathema. God be merciful to us, lead is away from this temptation and delivery is from this evil. Amen.

  2. I don’t know the full context of the Walsh comment to which you refer.

    However, your point #5 highlights the gulf between Mr. Atheist and the Christian – Mr. Atheist is in rebellion and denies his maker as sovereign.

    So, as a practical matter, we can’t ‘Biblethump’ those who are in rebellion, while they refuse to acknowledge that rebellion. We can, as you note, attack the ‘foundations’ of Mr. Atheist’s position (i.e. his pre-suppositions).

    Was Walsh further arguing that the Christian must argue from Mr. Atheist’s pre-suppositions?

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