Stick with me here. The irony comes at the end.
Rev. Joe Spurgeon (RJS) writes;
“Everyone wants to talk about demographics change but very few are willing to tell the truth about where much of the blame lies.”
Bret responds,
The issue here that Joe is bringing to our attention is the problem the West is having with demographic change. When you peel this back, that problem is that the West (and the US) is becoming less white. That Joe is focusing on White people not replacing themselves is seen in the multiple times he uses the word “White.”
RJS writes;
White Americans do not have a replacement level birth rate. The total fertility rate for white women in the United States sits well below 2.1 children per woman. That means the population is shrinking on its own, before immigration is even part of the equation.
Bret responds,
Here Joe brings out the failure of white people to replace themselves. Clearly Joe thinks this is a bad thing. I agree with Joe that it is a bad thing.
RJS writes,
At the same time, hundreds of thousands of white babies are aborted every year. Roughly a quarter of all abortions in the United States are performed on white women. That is an entire generation being erased before it ever sees daylight.
Bret responds,
Joe once again focuses on the white babies aborted. Joe is clearly zeroing in the collapse of White America. I agree with Joe that this is horrid.
As an aside… it is interesting that though America, demographically, remains 61% white, only 25% of abortions in these united States are done by white people. That means the abortion industry thrives off of the minority community.
RSJ writes,
Add to this the widespread use of birth control (which is itself abortifacient). Millions of white women are on the pill alone, intentionally preventing conception for years at a time. Children are delayed, downsized, or avoided altogether in the name of convenience, autonomy, or lifestyle preservation.
Bret responds,
Again, I completely agree with Joe here.
Joe writes,
A people that kills its children in the womb and refuses to have enough children to replace itself will not survive.
Bret responds,
Keep in mind that the “people” that Joe has been talking about is white people. It is white people who will not survive because they are not replacing themselves. This is the demographic change that Joe wrote of in his opening salvo.
Joe writes,
This is not primarily something being done to white Americans. It is something white Americans are doing to themselves.
Bret responds,
Note again… it is white Americans that Joe’s whole piece is about. Again, I agree with what Joe says here.
RJS writes,
A civilization cannot be sustained on abortion, sterility, and self hatred. If a people wants to endure, it must choose life, marriage, and fruitfulness again.
Bret responds,
Joe talks about (white) people wanting to endure. Joe talks about the need for white people to choose life, marriage, and fruitfulness. I agree.
The kicker here is that Joe writes all this as a white man who has not replaced himself. Joe hasn’t aborted his children. Joe did choose life and Joe did choose fruitfulness. However, what Joe did not choose was the very thing he is lecturing white people on … Joe did not choose replacement. Joe as a white man has not replaced himself. Joe married a non-caucasian woman and had many children who can not be considered replacements for Joe.
So, Joe complains (rightfully) that white people have sinned in not replacing themselves… Joe complains (rightfully) about demographic change, and yet Joe has four fingers pointing back at him as Rev. Joe points at white people for the sin of not replacing themselves.
So, I am to understand that a man who married a non-White woman is now lecturing other white people on their sin of not replacing themselves because of inadequate birthrates?
I want to make something clear here. I get why some people might marry outside their race. I get that there are going to be situations where that happens. I am glad for Joe that he has a radiant wife and many children. Further, I’m confident that all those children are Christian children.
What I don’t get is how such a guy can have the stones to complain that their race of origin is not replacing itself, when in point of fact, Joe has contributed to the demographic change that he is lamenting. If it is sin for white people to pursue death by not replacing themselves then that has to include not only abortion, and abortifacients as causes of white people not replacing themselves, but it must also include, as causative, large numbers of the population marrying outside their race and having non-white children.
The truth that has to be added to all the truth that Rev. Joe Spurgeon brought is that if Whites want to halt the demographic change in these united States they have to cease with interracial marriage because interracial marriage as well as abortion and abortifacients contributes to the demographic change here that Joe rightly laments.
Bottom line here … Joe has given us the right message, but he is the wrong messenger.
Addendum
1.) Someone has argued that white miscegenation compared to white abortion is akin to comparing the Himalayas to a molehill. I concur that abortion and abortifacients are a far larger problem however, consider that 17% of all new marriages in the US are interracial and by 2050, it is projected that 1 in 5 newlyweds in the US will have a spouse of a different race or ethnicity, indicating a continued rise in interracial relationships.
So… the Himalayas to molehill analogy doesn’t really work.
2.) Also on this matter we have to consider that one abortion kills one white child, while marrying outside one’s race prohibits many potential white children being birthed.
3.) Dan Brannan notes on this subject;
Both miscegenation and abortion remove a member of the nation. But one (miscegenation) also adds a member of an outgroup in amongst us. One (abortion) is murder of an individual. The other (miscegenation) is essentially murder of the nation.
I am always surprised to see a decent looking guy with a non-white wife.
Sadly happening more and more. I’ve seen it – tall or well-built white guys with foreign women. From the stories I’ve heard it comes after being repeatedly jerked around by white women – at least some of the time. Also what I noticed when I tried using Christian dating sites: tons of unsolicited messages from foreign women; vanishingly small number – or none at all – of local Caucasian women.
Miscegenation is literally degenerate behaviour.
Degenerate, adj., “to be inferior to one’s ancestors, to become unlike one’s race or kind, fall from ancestral quality.” https://www.etymonline.com/word/degenerate
Clearly, this is a bad thing:
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