Interviewed by John Leonetti on Why Right Reason & Natural Law Doesn’t & Can’t Work

 

In terms of Natural Law theonomists recognize and acknowledge that God sends Gen’l Revleation/Natural Law. The Heavens do declare the glory of God. The disagreement isn’t over whether or not Nat’l law exists. It does. The disagreement is whether or not fallen man afflicted with the noetic effects of the fall (remember total depravity … not Utter Depravity) receives and owns what Natural Law/Gen’l Law teaches. It’s pretty clear that as the antitheses gets more and more worked out that the fallen man cannot and does not receive the teachings of Natural Law / Gen’l Revelation and that because he suppresses the truth in unrighteousness. As CVT put it (paraphrase here);

God is sending on all radio frequencies but fallen man is forever trying to change the channel so as to not hear what God is sending.

Now, it is true that fallen man does do things that are in harmony w/ Natural Law but this is only because he has not become consistent yet in his Christ hating presuppositions. He has imported Christian capital into his Christ hating worldview in order to get his Christ hating worldview off the ground and functioning. Only the increasingly criminally insane approach being consistent with their worldview that denies God and His Natural and Special Revelation. As such, all worldviews that are Christ hating will borrow capital from Christianity in some capacity. This is because fallen man has to climb up in God’s lap in order to slap him in the face.

It should seem obvious in our culture that the Natural Law paradigm of Wolfe and others is just plain non-functioning. We have men saying that natural law does not teach them that they are men. We have women saying that Natural Law does not teach them that it is wrong to murder and torture their children. We have people attending government schools dressed up as furries and using cat litter instead of bathrooms. HERE is your natural law you so covet and insist needs to be the foundational starting point for building social orders.

Indeed, Natural law ought to be seen as non-sensical given that there is a different and competing natural law for every worldview in existence. Deism had a Natural law that was different from Jacobinism that was different from Transcendentalism that was different from Darwinism, that was different from Nihilism, that was different from Romanticism, that was different from existentialism. In short there have been as many Natural Laws as there have been Christ hating worldviews, including those worldviews which have taught that there is no such thing as an “out there” and so no natural law (think existentialism, post-modernism, nihilism, etc.).

Again, the issue isn’t with the reality of Natural Law that God has established. The issue is with appealing to a Natural law as a basis in order to order society, law, and culture.

Here I am merely being CONFESSIONAL

Anyone claiming to be Reformed and bound by the Canons of Dort, yet spouting Natural law the way it is being spouted by Cody and others on this thread needs to show how this ideology squares with Canons of Dort III/IV.4:

“The Inadequacy of the Light of Nature”

To be sure, there is left in man after the fall, some light of nature, whereby he retains some notions about God,-1- about natural things, and about the difference between what is honorable and shameful, and shows some regard for virtue and outward order. But so far is he from arriving at the saving knowledge of God and true conversion through this light of nature that he does not even use it properly in natural and civil matters. Rather, whatever this light may be, man wholly pollutes it in various ways and suppresses it by his wickedness.-2- In doing so, he renders himself without excuse before God.

-1- Rom 1:19-20; 2:14-15.
-2- Rom 1:18, 20.”

Author: jetbrane

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