R2K’s Immanentizing of the Eschaton

The R2K fanboys love to accuse theonomists, postmillennialists and Kuyperians of trying to bring in the Kingdom of God by their own efforts. In point of fact this is projection on the R2K lads part because it is they who, by their dualisms seeking to bring in the Kingdom of God on earth. This is so because the R2K chaps desire to relativize people and place in pursuit of immanentizing the eschaton. R2K insists that the Kingdom of God serves as the blood and soil for all Christians and as such there is no need to embrace our blut und boden. In the very act of doing this they are seeking to help along the coming of the Kingdom. The very thing they accuse the theonomists, postmillennialists and Kuyperians of.

R2K accuses their opponents of holding a position where grace swallows nature but in reality it is R2K, in its insistence that place and people are realized in the “Spiritual Kingdom of God” – to such a degree that blood and soil disappear in grace – who are the ones who are guilty of holding a position where grace swallows up nature. This is ironic because R2K insists that their position honors the grace realm but the minute R2K goes the next step, as Rev. Chris Gordon did in his interview with Dr. Stephen Wolfe, and says now that we are all Christians we can intermarry grace is swallowing up nature. At this point their dualisms slingshots into a grace monism where grace and nature are indistinguishable and that all in the name of Christ.

R2K would do well to listen to John Calvin here;

“Regarding our eternal salvation, it is true that one must not distinguish between man and woman, or between king and a shepherd, or between a German and a Frenchman. Regarding policy, however, we have what St. Paul declares here; for our, Lord Jesus Christ did not come to mix up nature, or to abolish what belongs to the preservation of decency and peace among us….Regarding the kingdom of God (which is spiritual) there is no distinction or difference between man and woman, servant and master, poor and rich, great and small. Nevertheless, there does have to be some order among us, and Jesus Christ did not mean to eliminate it, as some flighty and scatterbrained dreamers [believe].”

John Calvin (Sermon on 1 Corinthians 11:2-3)

R2K does mix up nature by insisting that grace destroys nature so much that Christians should routinely practice inter-racial marriage. R2K is championed by those who Calvin rightly described as “flighty and scatterbrained dreamers.”

Thanks to Chrissy Gordon I see that there is definite linkage between R2K and Alienism. Because R2K can’t use the word “Christian” adjectivally (as in Christian Nation) combined with R2K’s commitment that Galatians 3 and Ephesians 2 proves that all racial/ethnic markers are obliterated by the Gospel, R2K is really part of the Cultural Marxist project. One might say, given Chrissy’s explanation of R2K in his interview with Wolfe, that R2K is the egalitarianism weaponized as Christian theology.

This means anyone who opposes Alienism must oppose R2K.

What Chrissy has taught me is that as neither religion nor ethnicity can be used to define a nation. A nation thus seems to be reduced to a gathering of people who dwell in a shared advantageous economic zone. These people might and might not share a common language and history but the tie that really binds is a shared investment in a hybrid Marxism & Gnosticism.

Gordon Interview with Wolfe; X — Where R2K Meets Marxism

“The great message of the Christian Gospel is … the church is the people and place (blut und boden) and you have that, you have your soil, you have your people, your place, in the Kingdom of God and I get to preach that every Sunday to these people that unites them together not along these superficial … unites them together along this beautiful Gospel family that He has put together and I feel like this (what Wolfe is championing) is threatening that.”

Rev. Chrissy Gordon
Interview w/ Wolfe
153:00:00 Time stamp

Yes… the Church is the place where one comes into and loses not only their blood and soil but also their gender. After all, if we are all one in Christ Jesus, per Gordon’s hackneyed interpretation of Galatians 3 and Ephesians 2, then that means that the boundaries and distinctions of sex have been removed as well. One can’t consistently argue that Gospel one-ness eliminates race/ethnicity but doesn’t erase gender.

Gordon wants to insist that the very real distinctions that God ordained us to have in creation are eliminated in re-creation. For Gordon, Grace destroys nature. This quote proves, in spades, that that is his view.

For Gordon, the idea of Christian Nationalism … the idea that, in and by  creation God has placed us in social realities of blood, place, gender, and class is nothing but superficial realities that are transcended once one enters into the Kingdom of God.

This is the doctrine of the Marxists where all colors bleed into one. Chrissy might as well started singing,

“Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do”

Except Chrissy wants to insist that this is the Christian Gospel… this defines the Kingdom of God.

I have my differences with Wolfe, but what he is championing in most of his conclusions (as opposed to his rancid methodology) is just historic Biblical Christianity.

I also think that Wolfe let Gordon get away with far too much sloppy talk. Wolfe should’ve pushed back much more strenuously on Gordon.

The Designed Decline of the White Christian & The White Christians Embrace

But the real problem in the West is not plunging birth rates so much as it is the desire by the New World Order elite to pursue an International arrangement that imports the third world into the West with the express purpose of eliminating all Christian opposition, and indeed, all Christians. This is a truth that Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban articulated in the soon to be released documentary film, “Deconstruction.” The New World Order elites understand something that Anglo-European are slow to admit that is that the war against white people is merely a proxy war with the purpose of eliminating and crushing Christianity. It is merely a fact of history, easily understood by the New World Order elites that White people have been the civilizational carriers of Biblical Christianity. This is not to say that White Western Civilization has been perfect. It is to say that it has been superior to all other Civilizations by God’s grace alone. The fact that the Anglo-European white world is so slow to resist this destruction of themselves and their faith is demonstrated by their willingness to be like sheep led to the slaughter.

This desire to rid the West of white people and the Christian faith is not new. Dr. R. L. Dabney wrote about this same drive at the end of the 20th century;

“If indeed they (the South’s Conquerors) can mix the blood of the heroes of Manassas with this vile stream from the fens of Africa, then they will never again have occasion to tremble before the righteous resistance of Virginia freemen; but will have a race supple and vile enough to fill that position of political subjection, which they desire to fix on the South.

R. L. Dabney
A Defense of Virginia & the South

Toby Sumpter Defines What “Anti-Semitism” Is … McAtee Demurs

“1. It is anti-semitic to stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the uncanny number of Bagels who have made breakthroughs in science, technology, and medicine and have done remarkably good things for the human race.”

 

Toby Sumpter

Author of Blog — No Legs, Still Walking

 

Bret responds,

Sure … as long as we also don’t stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the uncanny number of of Bagels who have persecuted and killed Christians throughout the ages and who have been a remarkable evil unto the human race

TS writes,

2. It is anti-semitic to consider the Bagels as a race to be uniquely malevolent, that is, uniquely responsible for the evils done in the world.

Bret responds,

So we are supposed to acknowledge the remarkable good Bagels have done for the human race but we are not supposed to read history and note how Bagels are uniquely malevolent and uniquely responsible for many many evils done in the world.

Kind of like genociding Palestinians in Gaza?

TS writes,

3. It is anti-semitic to refuse to allow Jews the basic human right of self-preservation, self-determination as a people and a nation, and the right of self-defense.

Bret responds,

What was it called when the West and Bagels refused to allow the Palestinian people the basic human right of self-preservation, self-determination as a people and a nation and the right of self-defense?

See the books by Steven Sizer and Allison Weir.

Does Old Toby even know about the Deir Yassin Massacre (April 1948)? Or the other various massacres by the IDF visited upon the Palestinian people?

TS writes,

4. It is anti-semitic to refuse to acknowledge certain social, cultural, and political commonalities that will often exist between Bagels and Christians who take the Old Testament seriously.

Bret responds,

LOL … what Bagels take the OT seriously Toby? Didn’t Jesus Himself make the point that the Bagels did not take the OT seriously? Toby… have you ever heard of the Talmud? Ever read any of it? Have you heard of the Kabbalah Toby? What universe are you occupying Toby?

TS writes,

5. It is anti-semitic to refuse any assistance or alliance with Israel in those areas of common conviction solely based on the fact that they are Bagels.

Bret responds,

BUT it is not anti-Semitic to refuse any assistance or alliance with Israel in those areas of common conviction unless they quit impoverishing us as a nation.

See

Toby writes,

6. It is anti-semitic to refuse to acknowledge that Bagels are in any way uniquely poised to receive the gospel because of their Old Testament heritage or as “natural branches” cut off from the Old Covenant that may be more easily grafted back into the New Covenant in Christ.

Bret responds,

Misinterpretation of Romans 11 which was fulfilled by AD 70. Romans 11 was future to those who received the letter at the time but it is past to us.

I refuse to acknowledge that Bagels are in any way uniquely poised to receive the gospel because of their OT heritage or their being “natural branches.”

In point of fact the Scripture is clear that God has divorced National Israel and while individual Bagels may indeed be redeemed, Israel as a nation has been cut off never to produce fruit again. Israel was cursed for rejecting their Messiah and had until AD 70 before the divorce papers were served to the nation of Israel.

Toby Sumpter, following Doug Wilson has no idea what Anti-Semitism is or is not.

One can disagree with all these points Toby made and still not be an Anti-Semite.

The Ideas Of Calvin Seminary’s Coming Stob Lecture Guest Needs Diagonalized

“No poles of two ideas are 100% true, there is always a middle paradox or diagonal answer.”

Christopher Watkin
Biblical Critical Theory – pg. 17-18
Christianity Astray — Book of the Year

So, if this is true as an idea it means it is not 100% true and that in it, when combined with the idea that of two ideas one must be 100% true we can find a middle paradox or diagonal answer that also by definition cannot be 100% true and likewise must be met with its opposite idea yielding another idea that likewise can not be 100% true add infinitum.

Can you say … dialectical?

Book of the year? Does not that idea, which cannot be 100% true, since there are people who are on the other pole whose idea is this book is the trash of the year die of the need for diagonalization?

Calvin Seminary is having this guy speak at their Stob lecture series and he will be saying all kinds of stuff that clearly cannot be, by his own standard, 100% true and will be in need of some diagonalization.

If I were there, and if there was a Q & A time I would file to the microphone and simply ask;

“Are your ideas 100% true and if they are 100% true does that not make them therefore not true since there are people like me who say your ideas are not true?”

Dr. Watkin, aren’t your ideas presented this evening in need of diagonalization?