More Reinforcement On The Current NAPARC Scene

Last night I heard from an old friend I had not spoken with in quite some time. He was on speaking terms with a Pastor in a NAPARC church in a region of the country far away from where I live. He knows of how I have mocked the NAPARC denominations citing their abandonment of the historic Reformed faith as seen in the persecutions of Rev. Michael Spangler, Rev. Michael Hunter, and Rev. Zach Garris.

He contacted me to blow off some steam. He himself does not attend a NAPARC Church but in the past has met a Pastor of a local NAPARC church through mutual friends. This NAPARC Pastor learned of my friends Kinist like beliefs and found himself compelled to grill my friend about his Kinist like beliefs in order to “set him straight.” It seems that this same Pastor, who thought that my friend (let’s call him “Derek”) was so potentially dangerous to the Christian faith because of his views on Kinism, was himself spending a good deal of time staring at the interesting things on the internet that one can stare at while on the internet. It seems this staring has gone on for a good amount of time and yet nothing of any consequence was done to this Pastor by NAPARC church leadership in light of this pastoral staring until only recently when a very slight slap on the hand was given for this improper pastoral ogling, gawking, and leering at internet images.

So, here we are in 2025 and owning views on race that have been owned by centuries in the Reformed Church and by the Fathers of the Reformed faith can get one tossed by clerical cultural Marxists in NAPARC churches but a preoccupation with improper internet staring is treated as if someone improperly belched while giving a sermon.

This reminds of another case I was aware of and involved with a few years ago. I knew a chap from Michigan who was Pastoring a flagship NAPARC church in a region of the country far away from where I live and this Pastor chap had the chops to criticize me online for my very traditionalist revisionist views on the War of Northern Aggression. It seems he thought that because we were both from Michigan and both Pastors that gave him some duty to lecture me. His views were politically correct and along the way I was privy to his incessant online charges of “racism.” His time in the ministry ended so badly that out of respect for what remains of his non-Pastoral life and out of respect for his family I will not go into any detail of how all this ended except to say it was the height of hypocrisy for him to be going all spastic against my pro-Southern views on the war of Northern Aggression while he was involved in the unseemly matters he was involved with and which eventually (sadly enough for he and his family) caught up with him.

All this to say that modern Reformed clergy, no doubt with notable exceptions, are a joke. Likewise modern Reformed NAPARC churches, exceptions notwithstanding, are merely pale (and sometimes not so pale) reflections of the broader WOKE culture. I would rather take Christian counsel and spiritual advice from my auto mechanic then listen to modern conservative Reformed NAPARC clergy. When the NAPARC clergy move their lips I hear the voices of Antonio Gramsci, Al Sharpton, and Ron Burns (aka –Thabiti Anybwile).  These are men who are condemning the theology of Calvin, Rutherford, Althusius, Augustine, Dabney, Thornwell, Palmer, and Girardeau all the while involved themselves in the grossest of inconsistencies. When I’m around these people (as long as my stomach can hold out) it is as if I am surrounded by grifters, snake oil salesmen, and intellectual dullards. I am thankful that there are exceptions but those exceptions are just that — exceptions.

Clearly, the Seminary system has failed and this is likely due to the fact that the Seminary Professors are cut from the same cloth as those who are graduating from these “conservative” cemeteries.

Yes, I realize this is a screed … a rant if you please. However, we are talking about the Church of Jesus Christ here and it strikes me that an occasional rant / screed is appropriate when living under our current Reformed Babylonian captivity.

Free Spangler, Hunter, and Garris.

A Conversation With Someone Who Supports Illegal Immigration

BC wrote,

Dude, that’s just straight up racism.

BLM responds

You say that like it is a bad thing.

Honestly, dude, the word “racism” no longer has any meaning. It’s just a random pejorative that the intellectually deficient cast at people when the intellectually deficient can’t make an argument.

BC wrote,

All people are made in the image of God and equally deserving of respect.

BLM responds,

Respecting people made in the image of God is not equal to accepting my home being invaded! I respect all kinds of people I don’t invite to come live in my house. I bet you do to. The same is true when it comes to a nation. I can respect people w/o inviting them to live here and steal my children’s inheritance by living here and sucking off the teat of the state’s welfare program.

I guarantee you that if we shut down welfare programs to immigrants we would have zero problems with immigration tomorrow. Immigration is a wealth transfer program from my descendents to the descendents of the stranger and the alien. Embracing untrammeled immigration is embracing the curses that God promised in Deuteronomy. Embracing untrammeled immigration ends up making the heritage American the bottom rail while the stranger and the alien becomes the top rail.

And with the reality of white replacement it is designed to do just that.

BC wrote,

And what culture are you talking about? American culture is a mixture of many different cultures. That’s what makes it great.

BLMc responds,

The original/previously-known American culture was a mix of (predominantly Northern) European Christian cultures! That is what once made it “great.” Bless your heart.

There yet remains a majority culture and that majority culture continues to be under attack in hopes of destroying it. That majority culture is driven by a now largely watered down Christianity but it still remains the case that “our” majority culture is yet influenced by Christian categories.

And any country that kills 1 million plus unborn yearly can hardly be considered “great.”

BC wrote,

I love being able to eat Thai food made by immigrants from Thailand or Italian food made by Italian immigrants.

BLMc responds,

You know it is possible to make Thai food without being swamped by Thais.

BC wrote,

And safety? Violent crime is waaaaaay down in the US since 1990. So what are you talking about?

BLMc

You got to be smoking Hashish when it comes to your assessment of crime

In 2020, the U.S. murder rate saw its largest single-year increase on record – and by 2022, it remained considerably higher than before the coronavirus pandemic.

Crime rates

There are dramatic race differences in crime rates. Asians have the lowest rates, followed by whites, and then Hispanics. Blacks have notably high crime rates. This pattern holds true for virtually all crime categories and for virtually all age groups.

In 2013, a black was six times more likely than a non­black to commit murder, and 12 times more likely to murder someone of another race than to be murdered by someone of another race.

Interracial crime

In 2013, of the approximately 660,000 crimes of interracial violence that involved blacks and whites, blacks were the perpetrators 85 percent of the time. This meant a black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa. A Hispanic was eight times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa.

Urban centers

In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely. For the crime of “shooting” — defined as firing a bullet that hits someone — a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely.

If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent.

In an all­-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.

Police shootings

In 2015, a black person was 2.45 times more likely than a white person to be shot and killed by the police. A Hispanic person was 1.21 times more likely. These figures are well within what would be expected given race differences in crime rates and likelihood to resist arrest.

In 2015, police killings of blacks accounted for approximately 4 percent of homicides of blacks. Police killings of unarmed blacks accounted for approximately 0.6 percent of homicides of blacks. The overwhelming majority of black homicide victims (93 percent from 1980 to 2008) were killed by blacks.

Bavinck Supporting Rev. Hunter

Over here a friendly conversation is engaged between Rev. Michael Hunter and his denominational chieftains;

https://www.thedailygenevan.com/blog/2025/1/19/answering-ecclesiastical-critics?fbclid=IwY2xjawH8ZfZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHdn-3e92o5PGHgT68tN9rLrdJpLMjQ-R4dS6AsTpV4UgbG3QV4YyB9a6oA_aem_koqE9BAwXoOfHLkMhjtvsg

I thought I would add a few quotes by Dr. Herman Bavinck that might have found Bavinck in the dock along with Rev. Hunter before this august tribunal of the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church. By looking at the type of questions asked of Rev. Hunter by the ARPC one wonders if they likewise would have been unsettled by some of the words of the great Bavinck.

“In this consummated kingdom, diversity will be preserved in unity. There will be little and great (Rev. 22:12), first and last (Matt. 20:16); the distinctions between ethnicities and nations will remain; {243} Israel and the nations [volken in Dutch] will not be dissolved into one another, but each will hold their own place and task (Matt. 19:28; 25:32; Acts 3:19–21; Rom. 11:26); the nations that are saved will walk in the light of the new Jerusalem, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory and honor into it (Rev. 21:24; 22:2).

Although all share in the same salvation, the same eternal life, and the same fellowship with God, yet there will be all sorts of differences among them in rank and position, in gift and calling, in glory and radiance. There are many dwellings in the Father’s house (John 14:2). In proportion to how someone on the earth has been faithful, spent his talents, suffered and labored for Christ, he will receive in the kingdom of God a higher place and a greater honor (Matt. 5:12; 6:1, 6, 18; 25:14f.; 2 Cor. 9:6; Rev. 2–3).

This rich diversity will not distract from unity, for all will see God’s face and be like him (Matt. 5:8; John 3:2; Rev. 22:4).”. 

Herman Bavinck

We have now come to a time where the insistence on racial, ethnic, and national distinctions is now considered as heretical. As we see with this quote that has not always been the case in the Reformed Church. But having embraced a kind of creeping Gnosticism we find ourselves in the same place as those ancient Gnostics. Having denied the realness and goodness of material realities we have now lost the ability to defend or maintain the existence of very real God created distinctions and differences. There is now among us a virus that eats away at the notion of the goodness of created realities in favor of a termite theology that eats away at the distinctions that were laid down in creation. It used to be a byword that among the Reformed that “Grace restores nature,” but now the byword is “Grace destroys nature so that we can all sink into the great one.”

That this idea that is now embraced by the Reformed world as seen in its treatment of Michael Spangler, and as seen in many of the things that Doug Wilson is saying, and as seen in this interrogation of Rev. Hunter is indeed Gnostic in its ideological origins can be seen in a quote from an early Gnostic;

“According to Neander, the Carpocratian system sees in the world’s history one struggle between the principles of unity and of multiplicity. From one eternal Monad all existence has flowed, and to this it strives to return. But the finite spirits who rule over several portions of the world counteract this universal striving after unity. From them the different popular religions, and in particular the Jewish, have proceeded. Perfection is attained by those souls who, led on by reminiscences of their former condition, soar above all limitation and diversity to the contemplation of the higher unity. They despise the restrictions imposed by the mundane spirits; they regard externals as of no importance, and faith and love as the only essentials; meaning by faith, mystical brooding of the mind absorbed in the original unity. In this way they escape the dominion of the finite mundane spirits; their souls are freed from imprisonment in matter, and they obtain a state of perfect repose (corresponding to the Buddhist Nirwana) when they have completely ascended above the world of appearance.”

But this was not the way it has always has been as seen from the Bavinck quotes as well as sundry others. Here is another quote from a 19th century American that supports Bavinck’s original insight;

“Let it be noted that the Gospel does not dispense with any of the relations in human society. … And it is the vice of many of the systems of modern reform that they sweep across the web of natural associations in accomplishing their benevolent designs—and fail at last because they cannot succeed in this disintegration of society. Christianity, on the contrary, comes down into the world, not as a law, but as a life. … It seizes man in the midst of all the duties which he owes to his home, to the community, to the State, to the world. It does not relax any of these claims; but under their united pressure it consecrates him to a new service superior to them all. Thus does the Gospel, in its refusal to blot out any of our natural ties, respect the active feature in man’s nature.” p. 352.

Benjamin Morgan Palmer
‘Obedience, the Law of the Will’, (II)


Bavinck was consistent as he would write elsewhere;

“God does not manifest his covenant of grace by ripping people away from their humanity and establishing a covenantal community outside of our natural state, but He brings that covenant into humanity itself, makes it part of the world, and ensures that it remains protected from evil in this world. As Redeemer, God follows the same path he does as Creator and Ruler of all things. Grace is something different to nature, but it joins with nature so as not to destroy it but rather to renew it. Grace is an inheritance that is not acquired by virtue of natural descent, but it is covenantally maintained through the natural relations embedded in human nature. The covenant of grace does not randomly jump to and from one individual to the next, but is maintained through families, races, and nations in an organic fashion.”

Herman Bavinck
Reformed Dogmatics

No Kinist could have hoped to have spoken as well as Bavinck here. Grace renews nature. That’s all that Kinists are advocating. Grace renews individuals, families, clans, nations and races. It does so not because of the greatness of what it is restoring but it does so because of the grace that is doing the restoring.

Bavinck touches the nerve of the Reformed doctrine of the covenant. By God’s own decree, God works organically in family lines over the course of generations so as to raise up nations that are distinctly Christian.  Does the Reformed Church believe this any longer or has it been so bitten by the post Enlightenment consensus that it no longer believes that God works historically and organically in families, generations, and nations? Look, one can’t consistently say they agree with this quote and then turn around and tongue blister someone for embracing the implications of such a quote.

Talking About WOKE With A PCA Pastor’s Wife

Recently, a PCA Pastor’s wife (Laurel Johnson) asked me if I could define what I mean when I say WOKE. Keep in mind that Mrs. Johnson tends to have theological views that are vastly different from mine. This wasn’t a question without something lying behind the question.

Below is the definition of WOKE that I sent back to Mrs. Johnson (Sassiterain on Twitter);

WOKE The act of making sacred, historically allegedly marginalized race, gender and sexual identity groups. Out of this arises a kind of folk theology that teaches that these groups may not be offended as the idea of “offense” is defined by these particular sacralized groups.

The penalty for violating WOKEness is that the one who offends one of these sacralized groups (minorities, feminists, perverts) is excommunicated from society (what we call cancel culture) since the offending party has committed blasphemy.

It’s all very religious…. a “new” faith.

From here Mrs. Johnson, whose husband Pastors a PCA church in Blaine, Washington asked;

Do you believe that supporting racial unity in the churches and interracial marriage is woke?

I responded by answering;

How are you defining “racial unity?” If you’re asking whether or not Christians should support racial unity if racial unity requires reinterpreting Christianity through a Cultural Marxist grid in order to arrive at that holy grail of “racial unity”, the answer is obviously, “NO.”

Interracial marriage by itself is not necessarily WOKE (though it might be and often is). However, the way Interracial marriage is pushed in our culture and by many churches is definitely WOKE; the result of the pervasive influence of Cultural Marxism.

Certainly, interracial marriage should be discouraged. I agree with Muhammed Ali on this point;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqiWFLsgVi4

Wherein Joe Sobran and John Rocker Agree

“I think the target of all this (multiculturalism / political correctness) is not the white man as such. I think the target of all this is Christianity.”

Joseph Sobran

Lecture — The Bigotry of Tolerance (30:30)

I have been saying this for years now. Imagine my relief to know that a far greater mind than mine observed it 20 years ago.

Note also that there is no way that we can fight this without at the same time defending the White Christian and Western Christian civilization. We cannot defend Christ from this clever backdoor attack unless we are willing to shut the backdoor by insisting that White Christian civilization has been a singular blessing of God given in the fullness of grace.

The Baseball pitcher John Rocker was excoriated for noticing this way back in 1999. In an infamous interview with Sports Illustrated, Rocker made controversial comments about New York City. He directed abuse at the cultural and ethnic diversity that the city had and said that the presence of “foreigners” in the city was distressful:

“The biggest thing I don’t like about New York are the foreigners. I’m not a very big fan of foreigners. You can walk an entire block in Times Square and not hear anybody speaking English. Asians and Koreans and Vietnamese and Indians and Russians and Spanish people and everything up there. How the hell did they get in this country?”

He would also add previously that he would rather retire than play for the city’s two most decorated teams.

“I would retire first. It’s the most hectic, nerve-racking city. Imagine having to take the [Number] 7 train to the ballpark, looking like you’re [riding through] Beirut next to some kid with purple hair next to some queer with AIDS right next to some dude who just got out of jail for the fourth time right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids. It’s depressing.