Category: Christian Nationalism

A Conversation We’d Like To See Take Place

It was the Christmas season and being in the gift-giving mode Evan handed the Pastor a copy of “Who Is My Neighbor,” the anthology assembled by Achord & Dow

“What’s this” Pastor Jackie said staring suspiciously at the gift.

Evan answered, “It’s a book that reveals that the Church has for centuries supported what is now called Kinism.”

Pastor Jackie, visibly stiffened and imperceptibly snorted. He informed Evan that he’s heard about this book and the word coming back to him was that these were a bunch of quotes mined and taken out of context.

Evan, never one to be put off, said; “Have you or any of your clergy buddies or even anyone you know ever demonstrated that any of these quotes in this volume are taken out of context?”

Pastor Jackie’s hair stood on end. He realized now that this was a challenge and not merely a conversation. He understood that this was a gift the same with giving someone the plague might be a gift.

Evan took Rev. Glease’s silent hesitation for the concession that it was and immediately unloosened a verbal arrow that went straight for the Pastor’s shrinking heart;

“Look, Pastor, if you can’t demonstrate and prove to me that this book is just quote mining then I don’t think you should be spouting that this book is just filled with quotes taken out of context. Until you or any of your friends can demonstrate that this book is just filled with quotes taken out of context I’m going to be handing out these books in church like eggs at the annual Rotary club Easter Egg hunt.”

With that Evan pivoted and left behind a dumb struck Rev. Jackie Glease. Glease knew he not only had just been thunderstruck, he knew that his real problems were yet ahead of him. He knew Evan was not one to be shushed. He knew that soon enough he would be inundated with appointments with people who wanted to probe about the quotes in the Acord & Dow Anthology, “Who Is My Neighbor.”

He also found himself praying that his people wouldn’t learn about the other anthology that also was filled with quotes on the same subject. Rev. Glease knew that answering questions on “Who Is My Neighbor” didn’t need to be complicated by having to answer questions on the anthology “A Survey of Racialism In Christian Sacred Tradition,” by Alexander Storen.

Glease went into his study and picked up the phone and put in a call to Doug Wilson. Certainly Doug would have some clever way to dismiss all these bothersome quotes.

Diana West, Lawrence Auster, & McAtee On The Consequences Of WW II

“Having failed to destroy the democracies by making Nazi war, then, Hitler may have unwittingly managed to destroy democracies by effecting a post-Nazi peace in which the act of pledging allegiance to the flag itself, for example, would practically become an act of nationalist supremacism – racism, even; bigotry too. Quite suddenly, it didn’t matter whether the culture in question led to a reign of terror, or to liberty and justice for all. The act of maintaining or defending the culture, or, ultimately, even defining it — whether through unabashed opposition to communist expansionism, purposefully selective immigration practices, or even sticking to the Western canon – became confused with and condemned as an exclusionary and, therefore, evil chauvinism. In this way, having won the great victory, the Allies lost the will to survive. Writer Lawrence Auster has explored this theme.

‘Having defined the ultimate evil of Nazism, not as the ultimate violation of the moral law as traditionally understood, by as the violation of liberal tolerance, postwar liberalism then set about dismantling all the existing ordinary particularisms of our own society (including in the case of the EU, nationhood itself) in the name of preventing a resurgence of Nazi-like evil. This was the birth of political correctness, which sees any failure on our part to be completely open to and accepting of the Other – and thus any normal attachment to our own ways and our own society – as the equivalent of Nazism.'”

Diana West
The Death of the Grownup – pg. 191

1.) What West describes here is a description of the triumph of Communism over the West as a result of WW II. The post-Nazi peace she describes is, in point of fact, a peace driven not by a over-reaction to Hitlerian National-Socialism but a peace driven by Communist triumph. The Western “Democracies” got in bed with Stalin and the result was a Communist peace at the end of the war that resulted in all that West describes above. Consider that it has always been a descriptor of Communism to flatten out all distinctions. This flattening of all distinctions brought on by the Bolshevik Communist victory in WW II is what Lawrence above refers to as “dismantling all the existing ordinary particularisms.” This dismantling that occurred as a result of WW II was not a matter of Hitler “unwittingly managing to destroy democracies by effecting a post-Nazi peace” but rather a matter of the Communists – in Russia and in the Democracies – wittingly setting loose a virus that would destroy those democracies.

In brief, where we are at now, is not a matter of something that accidentally happened as a result of WW II, rather where we are at now is a matter of being purposefully designed and pursued by the Communists in the West in the US government and US universities.

2.) Note above that while Diana West properly notes that exclusionary practices that favor Western traditions in culture are now condemned as bigotry and evil chauvinism what remains just as vibrant as ever are the exclusionary practices. The habit of exclusion has not disappeared in the West with the triumph of Communism and political correctness. We are every bit exclusionary today as we were before WW II. The difference is that our exclusionary vision today now chooses different exclusions. What has been excluded today is a White Christian patriarchal culture and that in the name of an anti-bigotry inclusionary vision. We are not bigoted against particularity of any sort save the particularity that pursues a different particularity then the particularity of the New World Order (Babelism … Alienism … Oikophilia, etc.).

3.) The reason that Christian Nationalists today as so adamantly opposed is due to the fact that they want to pursue a different set of exclusionary practices than the anti-Christ One Worlders desire, but have no doubt, both the anti-Christ One Worlders and the Christian Nationalists are every bit as exclusionary in their vision of a desired culture. The reason that so many people find Christian Nationalism to be such a threat is that the Communist anti-Christ one world vision has been fed to us, as a people, morning, noon, and night, for every generation since the Communist victory in WW II.

4.) IF, having a normal attachment to our own ways and our own society  is now seen as “Nazism,” as Auster writes above, then we should just own the fact that we are Nazis. If that is the way that the Communist are going to define Nazism then we need to get over being called “Nazis,” because that is what they are going to call us all day long. It is clear that to a Communist any proper love for a particular people, particular place, and a muscular Christian faith, is now routinely called “Nazism.” We should laugh at the pejorative the way Nick Fuentes laughed at Piers Morgan.

5.) We need to understand that our Communist enemies today desire to do to us what they did to the Germans when they triumphed over them in WW II. This is not a polite disagreement. This is a fight for life and death. Those people intend to destroy us. They are beginning with seeking to ruin people economically and professionally but if they get their way eventually they will move beyond “ruin” to “dead.”

Our Moment

When I was born in 1959, the white population in these united States was 88.6%. It was a white Christian nation. Stores closed on Good Friday and on every Sunday. The SCOTUS even upheld Michigan’s blue laws in 1962 affirming the Michigan Blue Laws constitutionality based on the need for a day of rest.

When I graduated High School in 1977 the white population had dipped a wee bit to appx. 85%. Nobody talked about “race being a social construct,” and very few people denied that race was a real thing. The Franz Boas / Civil Rights Revolution was still on the upswing. Very few people realized the Cultural Marxist egg that had been laid and was already beginning to hatch.

I graduated Undergrad in 1982 and the total percentage of White people in the nation was now down to appx. 83.1% and by the time Jane and I were done having babies the nation was at 80.3%. Now, 35 years later, with the recent 202o census the percentage of White people in these united States is at 61.6%. For those not excelling at math this means between the time I was born and the time my children were born the percentage of White people had decreased by roughly 8%. Between the time of my children’s birth and my most recent grandchildren’s birth the percentage of decrease of White people in America has decreased by almost 20% more. By the time my youngest grandchildren are having their own babies in 2045 the projection is that the US will become a “majority minority white” people in the US  with whites expected to comprise about 49.7%.

This is a staggeringly rapid pace of social, cultural, religious and racial change. Of course none of it “just happened,” nor was any of it a matter of coincidence. All of this can only be described as “genocide,” and if these stats had been correspondingly true of the Han Chinese or Nguni Zulu in their respective nations everyone would be able to recite the statistics by memory because those statistics would be crammed down our throats by the Western Lugenpresse.

However, a noticing of the disappearance of the White Christian though is considered bad taste and proof positive that one is the worst kind of company. The White Christian is being genocided and we are being convinced that noticing is worse than the genocide itself.

Indeed, matters have gotten so bad that church courts in once were thought to be conservative Reformed denominations are doing yeoman’s work in bringing white clergy up on charges who dare commit this kind same kind of sin of noticing. Those few of us who have gotten out of line by noticing loudly have been forced to walk the ecclesiastical plank thus ensuring that any other clergy who might be tempted to state out loud rather Captain Obvious truths will likewise be fed to the politically correct sharks.  We are in a position where we have to fight against those inside the camp as well as fighting against those outside the camp. Which of those two is more dangerous is a coin flip.

And so, we as a people are being incrementally but definitively genocided and matters have been arranged so that it is a crime if you notice the genocide. It’s all very Orwellian as combined with expertise gaslighting.

Of course, it is our elites who have done this to us as they have profited by feeding their people to the NWO alligator, not realizing that the day is coming when they will no longer have anyone to throw to the gator, resulting in the gator finally viewing the elites or their descendants as a tasty morsel.

We really are at a Sobieski arriving at Vienna moment. Either we find another Sobieski to lift the siege or we will all be speaking some NWO form of esperanto. Indeed, it is not unreasonable to consider the possibility that the demographics is destiny bell  is not a bell that one can now unring. Are we at the point where all the efforts of a Martel, Sobieski, Lavallette, and Don Juan combined will not avail us? On my most realistic days I think it is already too late. On my most optimistic days I think that maybe, even yet at this late hour, the tide can be turned.

But the tide cannot and will not be turned unless more and more Christian white men step up and see themselves as heros … knights errant on a mission to set the world aright. The tide will not be turned unless the Church abandons its 250 year romance with a pietism that interprets Christianity to be most noble when it is most defeated, crushed, and vanquished. The call of the hour is a return to an older Christianity that was willing to fight the Turk, willing to call councils to deal with the Jew, and willing to embrace the Ordo Amoris while not being ashamed to deal justly with the heretic.

If I thought it was all hopeless I would not write. If I did not think that God could yet deliver us I would not plead. If I were not conversant with an older Christianity that if returned to could be the muscle needed to conquer under the banners of Christ and His Kingdom I would already have surrendered myself.

But, I still do believe. I believe that Christ sits at the right hand of the Father ruling all things for the good of His Church and Kingdom and I believe that if the Christian will only fight the Christian will either win or if defeated they will make such a glorious end that when the time comes for the Christian faith to rise again subsequent generations will sing songs and recite the poetry that told of how their Fathers with nobility and resolve last fought the good fight. And that will inspire our sons and the sons of Christ to again fight the fight that they will be called to in their generation.

MY orders are to fight;
 Then if I bleed, or fail,
Or strongly win, what matters it?
 God only doth prevail.
The servant craveth naught
 Except to serve with might.
I was not told to win or lose,–
 My orders are to fight.

 

Answering DeYoung’s Six Questions

DeYoung asks;

Question #1: Do you unequivocally renounce antisemitism, racism, and Nazism? antisemitism, racism, and Nazism.

That is to say, do you hold to any of the following: (1) a disdain for Jewish people and a belief that a secret cabal of Jews are responsible for a litany of evils in our world, (2) a disdain for non-Whites and a belief in the mental and spiritual inferiority of Blacks, and (3) an appreciation for Adolf Hitler and a belief that Nazis were the misunderstood good guys in World War II? I know I haven’t provided technical definitions for these isms or sought to substantiate my insinuation that all three are sinful and abhorrent. But that’s the point. Most people don’t need a lot of nuance to condemn Kevin  I commend Christian Nationalists like Doug Wilson who have called out these destructive sympathies on the right. It should be a simple thing to reject these ideologies and make clear that they have no place in conservatism, in Christianity, or in Christian Nationalism.

Bret responds,

Up until WW II it was a widely embraced consensus that a secret cabal of Jews were responsible for a litany of evils in our world. Men like Hilaire Belloc, G. K. Chesterton, Abraham Kuyper, and Winston Churchill spilled copious measures of ink on the problem of the Bagels. Government officials sent missives back to their respective governments detailing that the Russian Revolution was a Bolshevik Jewish Revolution. Church history is peppered with Church councils having to deal with the problem of the Bagels throughout the centuries. For DeYoung to pretend that our Fathers have not struggled with how to contain the Bagels given their propensity to be responsible for a litany of evils is just DeYoung whistling past the graveyard or it is a case of monumental and decided ignorance of history on DeYoung’s part.

In terms of DeYoung’s (2) above I can only direct him to read Charles Murray’s 1994 “The Bell Curve.” He can find it on PDF if he is interested.

In terms of my attitude towards blacks … it is best summed up by 19th century J. H. Thornwell;

“The Negro is one blood with ourselves — that he has sinned as we have, and that he has has an equal interest with us in the great Redemption. Science, falsely so called, may attempt to exclude him from the brotherhood of humanity…. but the instinctive impulses of our nature combined with the plainest declaration of the Word of God, lead us to recognize in his form and lineaments — his moral, religious, and intellectual nature — the same humanity in which we glory as the image of God. We are not ashamed to call him our brother.”

Dr. James Henley Thornwell

Sermon — Rights and Duties of Masters

In terms of DeYoung’s (3) above, I again accuse the man of historical illiteracy. Keep in mind that folks today who might be reconsidering Hitler might be doing so because they are also reconsidering Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, etc.

I for one view Hitler as a villain because I believe it is entirely possible that he was a creation of the same forces that crushed him. I believe he was created in order to be crushed. I don’t believe Hitler was a villain because of his desire to protect Germans from the Communist threat that was promised to pour over Europe. I also believe that the US joined hands with a mass murderer when they held hands with Stalin as allies in WW II and as such I have disdain for that generation of leadership. At least Patton got it right (too late) to note that, “we may have been fighting the wrong enemy (Germany) all along.”

DeYoung here is playing the struggle session card and is expecting folks to jump at his a-historical posturing. Folks can say, “If forced to choose between Hitler and Stalin, I would have chosen Hitler,” without thereby communicating that they are Hitler fans.

I encourage Rev. DeYoung to read Antony’s Sutton;

“Wall Street & The Rise Of Hitler.”

Maybe he will learn something that might be helpful to his ridiculous reading of history.

McAtee Contra DeYoung on Christian Nationalism – VII

Kevin De Young asks of Christian Nationalists;

Do you unequivocally renounce antisemitism, racism, and Nazism?
When and how does the nation act as a corporate moral person?
What is the purpose of civil government?
What does it mean for the civil magistrate to promote true religion?
Was the First Amendment a mistake?
What is the historical example of the political order you would like to see in America?

The Christian Nationalist McAtee responds,

1.) When Kevin defines for me precisely what “antisemitism,” “racism,” and “Nazism” is I’ll answer this question. I will say that where real antisemitism, racism, and Nazism really exist I renounce them. I suspect however that what the pietist DeYoung identifies as “racism,” “antisemitism,” and “Nazism,” will find me laughing. Keep in mind that antisemitism has come to be defined as “anybody winning an argument with a Jew.”

Now, will Kevin renounce “semitic-philia,” “egalitarianism,” and “Cultural Marxism” as I define those?

2.) Whenever a Nation’s political leadership acts it is acting as a corporate moral person. For example, when a nation goes to war the whole nation is acting as a corporate moral person. For example, when a nation legislates approval of sex change operations it is acting as a corporate moral person. Kevin should look into the original idea of Federalism.

3.) The purpose of civil government is to glorify God and to operate in such a manner that reflect honor and respect for God’s Law-Word.

4.) See the Original Article 36 of the Belgic Confession of Faith

Article 36: The Magistrates

We believe that our gracious God, because of the depravity of mankind, hath appointed kings, princes, and magistrates,1 willing that the world should be governed by certain laws and policies; to the end that the dissoluteness of men might be restrained, and all things carried on among them with good order and decency. For this purpose He hath invested the magistracy with the sword, for the punishment of evil doers, and for the praise of them that do well. And their office is not only to have regard unto and watch for the welfare of the civil state, but also that they protect the sacred ministry, and thus may remove and prevent all idolatry and false worship;2 that the kingdom of antichrist may be thus destroyed and the kingdom of Christ promoted. They must, therefore, countenance the preaching of the word of the gospel everywhere, that God may be honored and worshipped by every one, as He commands in His Word.

Moreover, it is the bounden duty of every one, of what state, quality, or condition soever he may be, to subject himself to the magistrates;3 to pay tribute,4 to show due honor and respect to them, and to obey them in all things which are not repugnant to the Word of God;5 to supplicate for them in their prayers, that God may rule and guide them in all their ways, and that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.6

Wherefore we detest the error of the Anabaptists and other seditious people, and in general all those who reject the higher powers and magistrates, and would subvert justice,7 introduce a community of goods, and confound that decency and good order which God hath established among men.8

5.) The first Amendment was not a mistake because it applied only to the FEDS. Does Kevin De Young admit that the doctrine of Incorporation wherein the Bill of Rights was applied to the States as opposed to the FEDS was a mistake?

6.) Early Colonial Virginia before the passing of the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom in 1786, which the noted patriot Christian Patrick Henry likewise opposed.