Responding to Rev. Steve Hemmeke’s Take on His One Hour Reading of “Who is My Neighbor” — Part I

“The huge weakness of this (Achord’s and Dow’s “Who is My Neighbor: An Anthology on Natural Relations;”) is that most of the quotations do not support the thesis of the book. To quote the Puritans or Jewish sources on the importance of family and patriotism is a far cry from what the authors argue for in the introduction.”

Steve Hemmeke Blog
CREC “Minister” — Herein after SH

Now keep in mind that Rev. Steve admits as he begins his review that he only spent 1 hour with this 650 page anthology and after 1 hour we are to believe that he can know that most of the quotations in the book do not support the thesis of the book. This claim leaves me credulous. It’s like someone saying that they’d only spent an hour with Augustine’s “City of God” and they know, after an hour of probing here and there in the book that Augustine failed in his work. Honestly, I can’t believe the hubris of this claim.

SH writes,

I’d like to lay out and then critique that thesis, from page 41:
Society is inescapably hierarchical, and so our duties are also prioritized, “favoring the near over the far. The implication is that we have obligations to our families, neighbors and countrymen over strangers and foreigners…. This is piety and gratitude.”

On one level, this is just common sense. I’m going to invest more time parenting my kids, than the kids next door. I take more time consuming news concerning my country than Zimbabwe’s, so I can vote and act faithfully where I live.

Bret responds,

Here the man says the book is just common sense. He, in essence, says he agrees with this common sense. But in true Wilsonian fashion he has to try to have it both ways and say that he doesn’t agree with the book.

SH writes,

“The problem comes with the flip side – a non sequitur which Scripture does not endorse: to favor those not of your kind is impiety. This turns out to be a call for segregation, though kinists don’t seem to like to use that word. A people’s culture should not be tainted by intermixing, they say, which breeds confusion in personal identity, and a dilution of energy which should be focused on positive, tangible culture building.”

Bret responds

Actually, to be precise, the flip side is not what Steve says. The flip side is “to favor those not of your kind above those who are of your kind is impiety.” Notice the subtle difference between what SL wrote and the corrected flip side. Now, there is no way that one can claim that Scripture teaches the kind of piety that SL initially says he agrees with and is common sense without at the same time affirming the teaching that the same statement stated in its negative (in the bold print above) is also piety. There is no impiety in that statement in bold and yet Steve wants to say that he does not agree with the exact opposite of what he affirms. What he affirms is piety. The same position expressed negatively he affirms is impiety and a non-sequitur. Only a CREC minister could “reason” like this.

Secondly, I have no problem with the idea of segregation as long as it is part of the whole idea of “freedom of assembly.” You remember that one don’t you Steve? For example The Washington Times recently ran an article stating;

Universities are increasingly offering graduation events focused on participants’ identities and segregated by race, ethnicity, sexual orientation and even income, according to a report by a conservative education publication.

Campus Reform, which is published by the Leadership Institute in Arlington, Virginia, reported last week that more than three dozen colleges and universities are holding graduation events this summer to recognize groups based on race, gender and sexual orientation.

I  have no problem with this kind of segregation in the least. Nor do I have a problem with Universities now offering dorm living according to segregated preferences. Is Steve saying that this segregation (freedom of assembly) is wrong? Sinful? If it is acceptable to Steve for this kind of segregation to exist why would he think that kinists’ believing in segregation is a bad thing?

Steve Hemmeke writes,

But this book’s thesis in the introduction is: don’t favor the foreigner over your own kin. That may be proverbial wisdom, like the common sense above, but it should not be made a moral absolute on racial or national lines.

Bret responds,

Now let me understand this dialectical reasoning.

1.) It is proverbial wisdom to not favor the foreigner over your own kin
2.) However, when our own kin is a racial or national phenomenon what is proverbial wisdom should now not be a proverbial wisdom absolute.

Steve Hemmeke writes

Let’s look to Scripture for guidance.

I believe the Kinist standing in Boaz’ field would rebuke him for looking favorably on Ruth, the Moabite.

He would look on with horror as a faithful Israelite of the tribe of Judah, Salmon, married a Canaanite whore from Jericho – Rahab.

He would believe that Ahithophel’s family was sinning to allow the Hittite Uriah to marry a daughter of their clan – Bathsheba.

Bret responds,

Steve gives three examples of marriage that would have been akin to marrying ethnic cousins. His examples amount to a German marrying a French lady. This is not the same as cross racial marriages.

Secondly,   even Ruth is disputed as to whether she was an ethnic Moabitess or an Israelite who lived in the former territory of Moab and so a Hebrew. Much the same way one might refer to a Puerto Rican living in New York City as a “New Yorker.”

Third on the matter of Rahab see

Rahab the Hebrew: The Royal Genealogy Vindicated

And as to Rahab see,

Kinist Orthodoxy: A Response to Brian Schwertley, Part 4

Steve Hemmeke writes

Yet each of these are mentioned in Jesus’ genealogy. Not as cautionary tales, but as laudable examples to God’s people that we are to “welcome the stranger.” This is a ubiquitous phrase in Deuteronomy, “for you yourselves were sojourners in Egypt.” So it was astonishing to see in print that we should NOT favor the stranger and foreigner.

Bret responds,

So many of these I’ve responded to before. Here one can reference;

Random Notes From Hoffmeier’s “The Immigration Crisis”

Steve Hemmeke clearly does not understand the nuances that Hoffmeier brings out in the book discussed in the link above. And this is just the problem with people spouting off about this issue who haven’t done the spade work to discover other possibilities then the cultural Marxist narrative that they are drowning in.

Steve Hemmeke writes,

Now, do we favor them to the impoverishment of our own estate and family or nation? Of course not. American immigration policy is insanely impoverishing us. But Kinism seems to go too far the other way, calling for separation. Ruth should have been sent back to Moab: “let her own kind take care of her.” I believe they would say this, regardless of her assumed spiritual conversion. Even as believers across cultures (it appears to me they assert), we ought to keep distinct tribes and cultures to flourish best.

Bret responds,

Just as Hemmeke did not read a book he is reviewing so he now is guessing at what kinists might and might not say in any given situation. Incredible.

If Kinism is asserting that we ought to keep distinct tribes and cultures to flourish best it is only because Kinists are learning from the Church Fathers. I reproduce just two of many more quotes of the same kind that could be appealed to. The Alienists, like Hemmeke, are revolting against the Church fathers on this issue. Kinists are seeking to be faithful to both Scripture and Church history.

“The vast majority of good thinking people prefer to associate with, and intermarry with, people of their respective race; this is part of the God-given inclination to honor and uphold the distinctiveness of separate races. But there are many false prophets of oneness, and many shallow stooges, who seek to force the amalgamation of the races.” ~

Dr. John E. Richards
Theology Professor Reformed Theological Seminary appx. 1970’s

If from this we may conclude that ethnic pluriformity is the revealed will of God for the human race in its present situation, it is highly questionable whether the Christian can have part in any program that would seek to erase all ethnic distinctions. That such distinctions may be crossed over by individuals may be granted, but it is at least questionable whether a program designed to wipe out such differences on a mass scale should be endorsed by the Christian. It is this line of argument that the average Christian segregationist uses to back his view. He fears that the real goal of the integrationist is the intermarriage of the races, and therefore the breakdown of the distinctions between them. Many who would be willing to integrate at various lesser levels refuse to do so, simply because they feel that such will inevitably lead to intermarriage of the races, which they consider to be morally wrong. . . .

The mass mixing of the races with the intent to erase racial boundaries he does consider to be wrong, and on the basis of this, he would oppose the mixing of the two races in this way. Let it be acknowledged that a sin in this area against the Negro race has been perpetrated by godless white men, both past and present, but this does not justify the adoption of a policy of mass mixing of the races. Rather, the Bible seems to teach that God has established and thus revealed his will for the human race now to be that of ethnic pluriformity, and thus any scheme of mass integration leading to mass mixing of the races is decidedly unscriptural.

Dr. Morton H. Smith (1923-2017) (For more see: Dr. Morton H. Smith on Christianity, Race, and Segregation)
Founder — Greenville Seminary

 

The Calabrian Butcher Wields His Clever Cleaver Against the Effeminate Soy Boy

Here I am trying to mind my own business while I enjoy my dogmatic slumbers and my name gets sullied and besmirched by a kid whose probably young enough to be my grandson. So much for an Elder being worthy of double honor. It is a tad frustrating that, in the words of Michael Corleone, just when I think I’m getting out they pull me back in. Ah well, I’m always up for another round of whack-an-Alienist.

Tait Zimmerman wrote, ( A shame he was too young to vote for Sarah Palin last time she ran for office),

They (the Kinists) start their argument with the claim that they only want to “love their kin.”

Bret responds,

Imagine the hutzpah in starting an argument with wanting to love our kin? What’s next? Kinists starting arguments that they love their place of birth? The cheek of it all.

Taiter continues,

When developed, though, the argument is they can only love their kin if separated from all other “kins,” which means that the final objective is racial separation and segregation, and declaring a “racially-mixed society” to be an evil society.

Bret responds,

1.) Kinists don’t have to have racial separation and segregation as an objective because it always naturally occurs when Government isn’t legislating that people do not have freedom to assemble, thus unnaturally forcing people together who otherwise wouldn’t gather. If Taiter had eyes wide open he’d notice, for example the self-segregating that happens as the Universities increasingly having graduation ceremonies for their Black students or for their Hispanic students. Maybe Taiter would notice organizations like the Black Congressional Caucus or, I don’t know … something like Black Lives Matter. Kinists don’t have to have as an objective racial separation or segregation because it happens naturally when both,

a.) Government quits legislating against freedom of assembly and
b.) When the Lugenpresse and Hollywood doesn’t jam integration down everyone’s throats. 

2.) I don’t know that I would say that a “racially-mixed society is an evil society,” though I certainly would say that a racially-mixed society is a unstable and unhealthy society. But then if I said that I wouldn’t be alone. I would just be parroting the conclusions found in sociologist Robert P. Putnam’s book “Bowling Alone.” But as Taiter probably doesn’t read much past his multi-volume graphic novel set he probably has never heard of this book or author. Putnam is hardly a friend of Kinism but his conclusions are that a racially/culturally mixed society is one where trust denigrates and people disengage. 

Taiter writes,

Needless to say, (kinists think) “inter-racial” marriages between Christians are sin, or, to put it more mildly, “not according to the original marriage,” where Adam and Eve had the same genetic composition.

Bret repsonds,

Not all Kinists say inter-racial marriage is always sin all the time. Many, like me, say, that inter-racial marriage is on the whole unwise and should not be entered into for the sake of both parties and for the sake of any future children. We look at the statistics for divorce for inter-racial marriages and see that it is even higher than for intra-racial marriages and seeing that we conclude that it is not wise and counsel against it. Kinists believe that two people entering into marriage ought to have us much common ground between the two people as is possible. This includes race/ethnicity, culture, faith, class, lifestyles, worldviews, etc.

However, like me, many kinists also say that once such a marriage is contracted that the Church should support such a marriage as much as possible. 

Taiter opines,

(Kinists think that) Culture is defined not by faith (Henry Van Til, “Culture is religion externalized”) but by the genetic composition of a nation.

Bret responds,

1.) I do believe that culture is religion externalized. However, the religion that is externalized is the religion of a particular people. Taiter is dealing in abstractions while I am saying that, “yes, culture is religion externalized but you can’t have religion externalized apart from a set people who are externalizing that religion.” Even the Scripture agrees with me when we see St. Paul talk about the Cretans. Just imagine the culture the Cretans created because of their religion. Paul said the Cretans were always liar. People who are always liars are liars because of their religion and as part of their religion externalize all that to create a culture of lies.

2.) Taiter is being all Gnostic here to suggest that cultures are made by faith and religion apart from the people — with all their genetic traits — who make up the cultures, faith, and religions in question. Culture isn’t created without people and people, I’m sorry to report to the Taiter, are who they are in their physical reality in harmony with their genes.  One simply can’t peel what a person believes apart from the person who is doing the believing. Culture is religion externalized as that religion is poured over the people God has ordained a people to be in their genetic reality. So, culture, like humans, has both a spiritual component (what we believe) and a physical component (the person who is doing the believing). If Alienists, like our Taiter, here cut off the genetic reality what else can that be but Gnosticism? 

Here I pause to go all C. S. Lewis and ask, “What do they teach these children in Sunday School these days?”

3.) Yes, Taiter I think a culture should be defined in part by the genetic composition of the nation since one can’t peel a culture away from the nation that in which it exists.   

Look, as an example in micro, when we consider the family culture of the McAtee’s we have to consider how what they believe interacts with who God has predisposed them to be by way of who God has made them to be per nature (genes). McAtees historically have been stubborn. Now that can be bent to God’s purposes by channeling it into determination or it can be bent to opposition to God by being pigheaded. Being regenerated doesn’t take away that disposition. However, grace can restore nature so that stubborness becomes a tool in God’s hand for God’s glory. Taiter, on the contrary is suggesting that grace destroys nature which is, as we have said, a Gnostic move.

Taiter writes,

Mixture of genes, then (or, as they call it, “miscegenation”), creates a “multicultural society,” which is anti-Biblical, they claim. They all teach segregation of society, and they all believe a “multi-racial” society is by default a “multi-cultural” society and therefore evil, even if everyone in that society is a Christian.

Bret responds,

I’m completely open to learning about all these multi-racial societies that are not multi-cultural. Let the Taiter march them before our eyes by giving us examples. At the same time let the Taiter give us examples of multi-cultural societies where everyone has been a Christian.   

Taiter, in my favorite part, writes,

Their main guru, McAtee (who, ironically, looks nothing like a Celt but rather like a Calabrian butcher) believes in the forming of segregated “Christian cultures”: Mongolian, Celtic, etc. Segregated by genetic composition, of course.

The Calabrian Butcher responds,

1.) I weep for the lack of originality in American utes. It’s been probably around a decade since a small alienist Bulgarian first dubbed me a “Calabrian Butcher.” Can’t Taiter come up with anything original? I mean I can come up with all kinds of metaphors of what he looks like. “Effeminate soy boy?” “Nightgown boy?” “Honey, how does this dress look on me boy?”  Still, I’m good with the Calabrian butcher title. Have you ever seen those Calabrian butchers handle a cleaver Taiter? Better not get to close Effeminate soy boy.

2.) McAtee believes that Christian cultures will self-segregate so that there will be no need to employ a plan to form these different Christian cultures. When people are left to themselves like will seek out like. But even if McAtee did think exactly what Effeminate soy boy says he would stand in good company with Abraham Kuyper;

“The Javanese are a different race than us; they live in a different region; they stand on a wholly different level of development; they are created differently in their inner life; they have a wholly different past behind them; and they have grown up in wholly different ideas. To expect of them that they should find the fitting expression of their faith in our Confession and in our Catechism is therefore absurd.

Now this is not something special for the Javanese, but stems from a general rule. The men are not all alike among whom the Church occurs. They differ according to origin, race, country, region, history, construction, mood and soul, and they do not always remain the same, but undergo various stages of development. Now the Gospel will not objectively remain outside their reach, but subjectively be appropriated by them, and the fruit thereof will come to confession and expression, the result may not be the same for all nations and times. The objective truth remains the same, but the matter in appropriation, application and confession must be different, as the color of the light varies according to the glass in which it is collected. He who has traveled and came into contact with Christians in different parts of the world of distinct races, countries and traditions cannot be blind for the sober fact of this reality. It is evident to him. He observes it everywhere.”……

Abraham Kuyper:
Common Grace (1902–1905)

3.) Although I would love to think it is true, it is manifestly not the truth that “McAtee is the main guru of the Kinists.” You could lop my head off tomorrow and the strength of Kinism would not diminish one iota. Kinism is a decentralized movement with more gurus then you can shake a stick at. In point of fact, anybody who is epistemologically self-conscious as a Kinist is a Kinist guru. They have to be since they are under such withering idiotic attacks. If a man is a kinist you can be sure he has thought it through to the point that he himself is a guru. I suppose I’d like to be “King of the Kinists,” but that is just nonsense. Every Kinist I know is as much as a guru as I am. Thanks to people like the Taiter that will continue to be true.

Taiter writes,

And no, most of them do not keep it generally to races and skin color, they do go deeper to genetic differences between ethnic groups, for they all use as their support verse in the Bible where the Jews were advised to divorce their non-Jewish wives. That passage, of course, is not about different skin colors but about different ethnicities within the same skin color, and many of the wives were of Semitic nations kin to the Hebrews. So, no, it’s not just general about skin color, it is much more specific about different ethnicities.

Bret responds,

First, race is more than skin color. Only a public school educated person thinks otherwise. Second, naturally kinist would advise that a second generation Italian growing up in New York city’s “Little Italy” would be wise to marry another second generation Italian growing up in similar circumstances. Remember, we kinists advocate that two people entering into marriage have as much common ground as possible. Just shoot us for thinking that way.

Second, in terms of the Ezra passage let us just note that not only the foreign wives were sent away but also the children of these unions. Obviously, as such, there was more than just different religions going on in the dismissal in the Ezra passage.

Now, Taiter, please allow me to return to my dogmatic slumbers.

Michael Foster’s Evasions … McAtee Evades Foster’s Evasions

From what I am told Michael Foster and Andrew Torba are soon to speak at the same conference. As of late Torba has said some very Kinist like things while Foster continues to slam any notion of Kinism. Recently Foster suggested that was because his Jewish grandmother who survived the holocaust had a major presence in his life. Now what that has to do with the hating of Kinism (which Foster most certainly does)I couldn’t even begin to guess. Well, actually, I could begin to guess and guess pretty good but I’ll restrain myself.

Below we find Foster trying to nuance is recent attack on Kinism. I will fisk as we go.

Michael Foster,

Do I think that there is a war on white people? Kind of. I just don’t think it is what some people think it is. There can be no question that there is a deep animus aimed towards “whites”* in most forms of popular media. There is a constant attempt to depict “whites” as hateful selfish oppressors against “non-whites.” And with this there are implicit and explicit calls to lessen or even eradicate the white population.

McAtee responds,

1.) War is like pregnancy Michael. Either people are warring against you or they are not. There is no “kind-of.” Kind of dead is still dead and dead is the consequence of both war and “kind-of war.”

2.) Notice that whites is continuously recorded as “whites.” Are we in quotation marks because Mikey doesn’t believe that whites really exist and so he says “whites.” Is this the social construct game that CRT so readily excels in? Is Foster going all CRT on us by typing out both “whites” and “non-whites?”

3.) If implicit or explicit calls to lessen or even eradicate the white population (the one time in Foster’s quote where there are not quotation brackets) then I’m pretty sure it is safe to advance the idea that there is a war on white people. I mean, if someone is trying to even just implicitly eradicate me and mine I would never consider that just “kind-of war.”

Michael Foster writes,

Yet I only say “there kind of is a war on whites.” Why? Because I don’t think the main motivation behind it isn’t primarily racial.

McAtee responds,

1.) Look, Sir Hebetude, if it is the case that people are trying to eradicate me and mine then I couldn’t care less what the motivation is. If my clan, tribe, nation, and people are eradicated (Foster’s own chosen word) then I don’t care what the motive is of those seeking to eradicate us. Eradication is eradication regardless of what the motive is.

2 ) When we speak of motivation that implies that there is a someone acting who is animated by this motivation. Who is that someone Mikey? Who is driving this “kind-of war on whites that will leave us eradicated?” Who has that much societal leverage? Who exactly Mikey wants to eradicate white people?

Here is one contestant as being a primary suspect that answers the question of the “Who” that is motivated to eradicate white people.

“I think there’s a resurgence of Anti-semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural, and I think we’re gonna be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.”

Barbara Lerner Specter
Jewish Activist Pushing Sweden

Mikey Foster writes,

“I think the goal is to stirrup racial tensions and particularly bait lower class whites into certain activities/attitudes. But why? To camouflage their real motive and goal. The liberal elite in America, who control the media, have bluntly said that they want to radically restructure the nature of our society. They are pushing for something like a new feudalism. You will own nothing but they will take care of you. That sort of thing. The main thing standing in their way is America’s middle class. We own a lot and we want to take care of ourselves. As a group, our middle class still has more money and influence than the liberal elite. That is something they hate.”

Bret responds,

1.) Of course it is lower class whites who are being baited because no upper class whites could ever enter into certain activities to protect their descendants. It is only the white trailer park trash types, per Mikey, who could possibly be interested in refusing to be “eradicated.” and so be successfully baited.

2.) Here Mikey tries to make this about classically liberal economics. The they who have these motives and goals aren’t really interested in this racial divide except as it serves an economic end. They hate the middle class therefore they will seek to eradicate white people. The clever thing about Mikey’s argument here is that there is likely some truth to it. Cultural Marxists do hate the middle class as well as hating white people. For that matter the Cultural Marxists hate the upper class also. To dismiss Mikey’s argument here just ask yourself whether or not if it were the case that minorities made up the major percentage of the middle class if there would be a war on minorities in order to eradicate them? The question answers itself. This is just Mikey trying to evade the obvious and that is that the real pursuit here is not primarily about eliminating the middle class though the Cultural Marxists certainly desire that. No, the main pursuit is white people. The side benefit to those who are pursuing all this is getting rid of the middle class.

3.) Actually, it is my conviction, as I’ve stated before that the real goal here is to roll Jesus Christ off His throne. The real goal is to rid the West once and forever of Christianity. Now, as it is the white man who has been the main carrier of Civilizational Christianity then of course it is the white man who must be “eradicated.” Rid the West of Christianity and one rids the West of the economic middle class and the white man. However, the enemy can’t do a frontal attack on Christianity so he goes through the back door by arguing that the White man is an oppressor.

Mikey Foster writes,

“Now, it’s hard to demonize the middle class which has long been celebrated in our nation. But it is much easier to demonize a “race” or “color.” And guess what? The American middle class is mostly white. One way the liberal elite can attack and divide the middle class is to create a ruse and proxy war via race-baiting. And it’s working. More and more folks are getting draw away for the real battle-line (largely socioeconomics) to the diversion (race-baiting stuff).”

Bret responds,

1.) It is no more difficult to demonize the middle class than it is to demonize white people in general. History demonstrates that the middle class has been repeatedly demonized. Stalin demonized the Ukrainian Kulaks. Robespierre demonized the shop-keeper middle class.  Indeed, I would argue that it is a bigger lift to demonize a whole race than to demonize the middle class.

2.) The American middle class is mostly white? That’s brilliant. Did you come up with that all by yourself Mikey? Guess what … in a country that is still 70% white it is the also the case that American upper and lower class is mostly white. All of America is mostly white. Well done Sherlock.

3.) Again, this is not about primarily about economics. It is primarily about race and that is true no matter how much Mikey or Tucker Carlson says to the contrary. Now, this is not to say that there are not based minorities who agree with based white people but it is to say that the enemy is going after based white people. If they succeed in pulling down what little is left of Biblical Christianity then the house of the based white man falls and with that falling tumbles also the economics of it all. However, if it were minorities who comprised the middle class you can be sure that none of this would be happening.

4.) If Mikey were to be true to the evidence he would have to enter into the fray supporting both a Christian entrepreneurialism (this current crony Corporatism has to go) and the Christian white man because these two realities are not mutually exclusive. You cannot peal them apart as Mikey is trying to do.

It Is Appointed Unto to Men to Die Once… and Then the Judgment

“So teach us to number our days, that we may gain a heart of wisdom”

Psalm 90:12

I am old enough to remember my Great-Grandpa Plumbeck’s funeral. He died in 1971 when I was 12 and at least as I recall his funeral was the first funeral I ever attended and so my first introduction to death as up close and personal. His daughter — my Grandmother Laura Jacobs — died 23 years later in 1994. A generation having turned since her father’s death I was now of the age to be officiating funerals having been called to the ministry and I officiated her funeral and that of her husband’s (my grandfather) who died eight days after her.

Now another generation has slipped away since 1994 and now Walter Plumbeck’s grandchildren and Laura Jacobs’ children — one in the same — are shedding this mortal coil and are being summoned into eternity by the only God who is — the Christian God. In 2021, 27 years after we buried their Mother and 50 years after we buried their grandfather Plumbeck we buried two of Laura’s children (Uncles Ralph & Jim).

None of them — not Walter Plumbeck, not Laura Jacobs, not Ralph Jacobs, nor his brother Jim lived anything but full lives. Walter was 85, Laura 75, Ralph was 80 and his brother Jim was 76 when they each respectively received their summons from God. They all exceeded the promised “three score and ten” of which God’s word speaks.

Of course, this means, by necessity, that Walter Plumbeck’s great-grandchildren and Laura Jacob’s grandchildren (one and the same) will be the next generation to follow Walter, Laura, Ralph, and Jim in the way all men must go. That would be the generation of my siblings, cousins and myself. Our great-Grandparents have gone. Our grandparents have gone. Our Parents and Uncles and Aunts are now slipping into eternity and with the turning of another generation (20-25 years) we too will follow. It will come and go in the blink of an eye. Then, the worst of all to contemplate will come — it will come after we are gone — our own children will experience the ultimate consequence of sin and will die. Our children will meet what the Scripture calls “the last enemy,” and will traverse the shadow of the valley of death.

So, goes the march of God’s providence. One generation rises up while the previous passes from the scene and yet it all happens so suddenly and so quickly despite the fact of our knowing that it is coming and is inescapable. For example as to the suddenness and quickness of it all, my Uncle Jim who we buried Saturday (27 November 2021)

Just two or three weeks prior to Uncle Jim’s death and only shortly prior to getting ill himself he attended a funeral of someone who was murdered by the Deep State as a result of the purposeful release of the Deep State virus.

There Uncle Jim was, comparatively healthy, attending a funeral with no way of realizing that in a very short time his kith and kin would be attending his funeral.

Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. (James 4:14)

It seems — this whole death thing — at one and the same time, so odd and yet so natural. At the end of it all, when this life ends it will matter most if you will continue to live after death.

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in Me will live, even though he dies.  26 And everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. (John 11:25-26)

Given that reality why be so unconcerned with the claims and work of the Lord Jesus Christ? Why be so listless in thinking through what comes next after this life? Why continue to ignore your sin problem and the fact that the wrath of God abides upon the children of disobedience?

Prayer

Lord Christ thank you for being merciful to me a sinner. By thy grace awaken people to think about the end before the end is upon them. Grant them grace to be conversant with their sin and grant them grace crowned to be conversant with the only answer to the sin that stands between your just wrath that appoints men to eternal death.

Be pleased to open men’s eyes to the Good News of Christ for sinners that is the Gospel of Jesus Christ as that Good News is properly understood in a Biblical and Reformed context. This is a boon that we beg of thee.

McAtee Takes on the Hordes of Moscow

“One disappointing thing about this debate is how quickly the kinists claim the other side is being influenced by the culture’s definition of racism and ‘white supremacy.’ I don’t know a single person in this group who buys into the culture’s ‘everything is racism,’ CRT, woke nonsense.

It’s an unsuccessful attempt to dismiss their critique by saying it’s coming from a place it isn’t.

Here is a clear position: we don’t think you’re wrong because we misunderstand you or think you’re something you’re not. We read what you post and think you’re wrong.

We don’t see a Biblical (or especially new covenant) mandate to preserve one’s own race, to have a priority for one’s own tribe, to have kids that look like your grandparents, to keep America White, to preserve a European or white majority status in America, to marry one of your own race, or any other thing that’s been mentioned in these threads.

It’s a waste of the church’s time, a distraction from the Great Commission, and really just kind of silly.”

Ralph Mullenax

Moderator
We Hate Kinists FB Group

1.) What strikes me here is how quickly they will flatten creational distinctions and natural connections and affections. It really is grace flattening nature, disguised as “piety.” This is never a move that Reformed people would make. Reformed people have constantly said that “Grace restores nature,” but these Anabaptist believe that “Grace ignores or destroys nature.”

Reformed piety, contra Anabpatitst/Alienist piety demands that our obligations flow outward in a series of concentric circles of (primarily) natural duties.

2.) Normally I would say that only a Baptist could reason like this. There is the surrender of corporate/covenant categories in favor of the individual above all. This is exactly what Kalergi desired in his vision of the NWO he desired to create. As long as these people can’t see or think in corporate / covenantal categories we will never be able to reconcile or even to communicate it seems. These people may not be Baptist by name but if they are not Baptist they are Baptisterians. They certainly aren’t historic Reformed. We know what the Reformed thought on this subject thanks to Achord & Dow’s book and it was the very content that the Kinists put forward that finds them turning into a pack of werewolves howling at the moon.

3.) Keep in mind that the chaps who are members of this FB group are Wilson types of “Reformed” Christians. If this is what Wilson is producing how can anyone think that Wilson is going to lead us to the promised land?

4.) All because Ralphie insists that they are not of the cultural Marxist tribe that screams “WOKE,” or “everything is White supremacism,” or “racism” that doesn’t mean that they don’t belong to the Cultural Marxist tribe. After all, a fish seldom is able to identify the water it is swimming in. These people are drinking from the well of Cultural Marxism and they don’t even realize it. That kind of phenomena is seen all the time.

5.) It is true… they read what we post but it is also true that they are reading what we write through their Anabaptist Cultural Marxist lenses. Of course they think we are wrong. People with a non-Christian Worldview will always think people with a Christian Worldview are wrong and they will swear it is not because of any a-priori faith commitments on their part.

6.) Why “especially New Covenant?” Is this a Baptist reading that says that the New Covenant snuffs out EVERYTHING said in the Old Covenant?

7.) Everything else that is said is what Marxists have been saying for centuries. It was what Count Coudenhoven Kalergi said. It is what nobody on this planet Christian or non-Christian (except for Cultural Marxists and Fabian Socialists) said before the end of WW II. But y’all are historically ignorant. You won’t even pick up Dow & Achord’s book to try to understand what your betters believed throughout history on this subject.

8.) In the end the ultimate vision of these “Christians” is the same vision of the New World Order types with the exception that they think the vision of the New World Order types can exist as being Christian. They are the toadies of Saruman thinking that his Sauron like creation would be an improvement on Sauron’s New World Order vision. They are not beyond repentance but unless they repent they remain the ideological offspring of Saurman’s mixture of Elves and Orcs.

Dealing with Ralphie’s people is like Bach trying to explain composing to a bunch of 5 y/o special needs children.

But … be of good courage folks. The very fact that they can’t quit talking about us means they know we are a challenge and threat to their successfully creating the world in Saurman’s image.